About Capture Cards.

Snazzi · Post by **Snazzi** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:22 am

Sup guys, I'm looking to buy a capture card, and I don't know what I should be looking for. What ones do you guys have ? I don't wanna be spendin shitloads on it either. Is it possible to get a good one for under fitty bucks ? Halp pl0x.

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:48 am

Dazzle! It's Cheap + Efficient. However it's only SD. I haven't found one for under $50 either.

Dazzle Itself $50 - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pinnacle+-+ ... _desc=null
Double Sided AV Cables $17- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications ... CatId=4544
3 Av Splitters - $15 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index ... age=search

So about $82 without shipping. And yes those are the cheapest other than the cables which will be recommended unless you plan on replacing them constantly. Dazzle HD is $90 alone for the Unit.

Boiler · Post by **Boiler** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:01 am

if u wanna go big

black magic intensity pro
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

or

hauppauge hd pvr
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

but i see you dont wanna spend to much so PINNACLE DAZZLE DVD RECORDER DVC 100 is ok i guess

myself i got hd pvr :sohappy:

Snazzi · Post by **Snazzi** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:37 pm

I hear the HD PVR ones are really good. Did you buy yours from a store, or on the net at like ebay or something ?

Boiler · Post by **Boiler** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:42 pm

Kah00ner wrote:I hear the HD PVR ones are really good. Did you buy yours from a store, or on the net at like ebay or something ?

i got mine from the net (swedish site) yeah its awsome can record in 1080p :sohappy:

but i record in 720p since there isnt really any big diff between 720 and 1080p.

Post by **Gaigemasta** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:24 pm

Yah, I have a HD PVR now, its really nice! but you need hd cable/sat or w/e first!

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:46 am

Boiler wrote:
Kah00ner wrote:I hear the HD PVR ones are really good. Did you buy yours from a store, or on the net at like ebay or something ?

i got mine from the net (swedish site) yeah its awsome can record in 1080p but i record in 720p since there isnt really any big diff between 720 and 1080p.

The Difference is noticeable on bigger TV's for me. I myself want to get the Blackmagic Intensity. Prolly cause it's name sells.. lol
Oh and it looks sexy.

Spoiler!

I did read all the specs on it though and it seems worth the price.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:53 am

I heard that for PS3, in order to use capture card, you have to use Component or SD? Something about encryption. If so, that sucks.

Snazzi · Post by **Snazzi** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:56 am

Thank god I'm on Xbox. Black, how much is that blackmagic one ?

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 6:58 am

I heard something like that also. You also cannot have your PS3 Video settings set to HD.. =[ That is gonan suck hardcore. What's the point of playing in HD if you can't reminisce the crisp Hi Def action.. I wonder if there is a way around it. i see 720p qaulity Ps3 vids on youtube so I think it's possible.

Blackmagic one is $200
I want one! But I'm on Ps3 =\

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:33 am

MrJoey wrote:I heard that for PS3, in order to use capture card, you have to use Component or SD? Something about encryption. If so, that sucks.

A PS3 doesn't have HDMI? I always used the BlackMagic Intensity Pro to record from my 360 via HDMI. There was pretty much no delay either, you could just turn off the TV and watch the computer monitor instead. I liked the BM better than the Hauppauge, also for the fact you could make screenshots so easily.

The Hauppauge records through component, and always has a delay, so you must get double cables/splitters so you can watch at both TV and PC, whereas with the Intensity Pro you could just watch on your PC.
Recording through component on the Hauppauge looks still very good, I barely see any difference with the BM that recorded through HDMI.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:35 am

I checked up on it Ruyi. PS3 does have HDMI, but the games use HDCP. Basically something that's supposed to prevent piracy or something like that through HDMI. So if someone wants to record in HD on PS3, the have to get component.

Everyone thought HDCP was only going to be used for Blu-Ray movies.... If only that were so.

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:40 am

Oh yeah I remember reading that crap, ridiculous.
Either way, recording through component still looks good. With the Hauppauge at least, don't know about any other devices. It's just annoying to switch cables every time because I usually connect the console through HDMI.

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:43 am

Never seen one of the capture devices being used, so I'm not sure what you mean by needing to switch cables, or "collect the console."

William-CL · Post by **William-CL** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:50 am

MrJoey wrote:Never seen one of the capture devices being used, so I'm not sure what you mean by needing to switch cables, or "collect the console."

Think she meant "connect
" lol
And Switching cables cause for both Ps3 and 360, you need to use different cables for Full HD effect. One is Standard Component and the other is for HD

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:02 am

I meant connect, blame it on the heat melting down my brains.

Anyway, this is the setup I used when I still had the BM Intensity Pro:

The BM (built in PC) didn't have double slots, so I could only watch the Xbox footage on the PC. (360 signal >> PC with BM) I needed a splitter so the signal was split and I could just watch my TV while recording on the PC.(360 signal >> splitter >> TV & PC (recording)
It's a luxury thing, because there was no delay with the BM, so I could just have watched it on the PC.

The Hauppauge, however, has a delay, so I can't just watch the PC because everything I see on there already happened a second ago, which is a long time in an action game. The setup for the Hauppauge is similar, except the Hauppauge has a built-in splitter, and the cables are now component cables.

...I hope that made sense. OvO

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:04 am

Yeah, that makes sense. Been debating getting a capture card for a long time now. Still undecided though.

RuYi · Post by **RuYi** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:11 am

A Dazzle is okay if you want a decent capture card for a low price. But don't expect any HD footage.
If you can't record through HDMI, the Hauppauge is good. The BM was great too, but - and maybe it's just me - they broke down too fast, within a year I was on my 3rd card. They have good customer service, though a little slow, and each time I had to send in the card on their costs, and after they checked it, they sent me a brand new one free of charge.

The Hauppauge is easier to connect and you don't have to build it in, and the quality is really good. I just checked it again and I can't tell which device I used in my videos. Only downside for me is the component (because I have to switch from HDMI) and the lack of a screenshot feature (can be solved with editing programs that can make stills).

MrJoey · Post by **MrJoey** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:32 am

They're both $200 or more though. :| Not gonna bother with Dazzle, if I'm going to use a capture card, I'm going for HD. Maybe I should save some money. lol

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