Fire imbue much weaker than lightning.

[vulperin]

I think...lightning imbue will be stronger than fire imbue if you're hitting up more than 20 times (Giants).

Fire imbue however is more effective in killing normal mobs if you can kill it in a few hits. The burn damage can be ignored...it is so...negligible. Anyway...if you're upping lightning and fire, i think put both imbue if you have the sp

[IguanaRampage]

well my opinion (i have tried this same experiment long ago) is that at low lvls, you really cant notice the difference. The fire imbue does a bit more dmg than the light imbue, but when the light imbue effect comes into play it is stunning how much better it gets. Im still going to go fire imbue because i decided at a low lvl that I would do that and i put a lot of sp into it. I also have a good lvl 6x friend (hes almost lvl 70 now) who tested all and said he found fire to be the best dmg wise. But im pretty sure he compared lightning not including parry effect to fire not including burn effect. As a nuker, you have to do a ton of dmg for the said parry effect to take place, and even then with an enemy using a good fire shield, some light reduce acc., and some pills they dont have to be immune for the effect to be obsolete because they recover before your next nuke or spear move! (unless u using lion shout or ghost spear)

[cuchulainn]

Here's my thoughts:

Both do an average about the same damage for a pure str. Lightning's damage is more varied while fire is consistent. So it's hit harder consistently, or hit really hard some of the time and slightly less hard other times.

[JessicaYan]

can anyone with the same lvl imbue test this on a char immune to light?

since you still get the 50%- in perray on initial hit(when the 20% kicks in), it would still do a lot of dmg, but only on that hit , immune to light or not.

[skyduck]

AGREE.


My build is a pure INT spear char. current at lvl 27 and I use the lightning imbue.

At lvl 25 when hunting outside of DW, I got that ???? error MANY times (hence died and lost 2% exp.) and got so frustrated to catch up. Then, I level the fire imbue from lv 0 up to lv 7 at once because everyone said fire does more damage... so I thought I could kill faster...

But NO... at least not for pure INT spear. I noticed that 75% of the time the fire imbue does LESS damage than the lightning imbue even both imbues are at the same level. These were done by using Soul Spear or Ghost Spear + imbue. I was so disappointed. So, I immediately switch back to lightning. I love lightning.

Soul Fire Force at lvl 69 does 351~584 or an avg of 467.5.
Thunder Dragon Force at lvl 69 does 286~429 or an avg of 357.5 (25% less)

If you're only hitting a couple of times (eg nuker), fire is far and away the best force. If you're going to be hitting more often, (eg str) lightning does less damage until the effect takes hold. However, since a str user is most likely maxing fire anyway for the buffs, it's still a tossup. That said, once everyone at high lvls is immune to all 3 forces, fire is the best, hands down.

Right in a logical sense. But completely wrong on the battlefield.

As I said, it was the clear decision to go with fire. But it does MUCH less than the lightning imbue. I thoroughly tested both before I purchased more skill re-allocation potions.

SSS and Ghost spear did less with fire, and so did nukes. VERY noticable.

That decrease in parry ratio must be huge, it definitely makes a difference.

[FireStorm]

For PvP :
Fire is better cuz everybody can be immune to everything. Fire = more dmg = more dmg = more dmg.
For PvE :
Nuker : Fire far better cuz you nuke only once (I hope) and the effect of lightning is still not there. Fire = more dmg.
Full STR Blader, Glaive : Fire better cuz you use fire for your primary force and you want to be the best for PvP (thats why you play str char)
Archer : Fire better than ice cuz Fire = more dmg = more dmg = killing fast = better.

Lightning Imbue need to take effect before helping (99% sure for that, please correct me if I'm wrong) so fire is better.
If you wish to try go with lightning or ice. I'll stay fire forever. Hope to see you in PvP to see which is better

[vulperin]

I get my lightning up because of its status shock. This will help me shock giants and then i switch to fire imbue.

[kitary]

For PvP :
Fire is better cuz everybody can be immune to everything. Fire = more dmg = more dmg = more dmg.
For PvE :
Nuker : Fire far better cuz you nuke only once (I hope) and the effect of lightning is still not there. Fire = more dmg.
Full STR Blader, Glaive : Fire better cuz you use fire for your primary force and you want to be the best for PvP (thats why you play str char)
Archer : Fire better than ice cuz Fire = more dmg = more dmg = killing fast = better.

Lightning Imbue need to take effect before helping (99% sure for that, please correct me if I'm wrong) so fire is better.
If you wish to try go with lightning or ice. I'll stay fire forever. Hope to see you in PvP to see which is better

mabe build a build for lightning imbue , OH duh !!

chains, + light imbue pown in pve , if any one wants to grind to cap fast use lightning imbue , and pve skills like chains
later you can always sp farm extra to get fire so you can look like every one els and go pvp at cap , jees pvp this and pvp that
you also need to perform pve you know
but that world just dus not seem to exsist to some
in total a char will spend more time trying to grind to lvl 70 (soon 80 and soon after that 90 and mabe even higher ). than it dus pvping

the only time you get to fully pvp 100% of the time is when your capped fully farmed and bored .
Alot of ppl already know that one of the fastest lvling build in sro is a pure int ss lightning nuker 0 gap just lightning no other tree's
grind to cap , than farm alot and get more skills and other forces

[FireStorm]

For PvP :
Fire is better cuz everybody can be immune to everything. Fire = more dmg = more dmg = more dmg.
For PvE :
Nuker : Fire far better cuz you nuke only once (I hope) and the effect of lightning is still not there. Fire = more dmg.
Full STR Blader, Glaive : Fire better cuz you use fire for your primary force and you want to be the best for PvP (thats why you play str char)
Archer : Fire better than ice cuz Fire = more dmg = more dmg = killing fast = better.

Lightning Imbue need to take effect before helping (99% sure for that, please correct me if I'm wrong) so fire is better.
If you wish to try go with lightning or ice. I'll stay fire forever. Hope to see you in PvP to see which is better

mabe build a build for lightning imbue , OH duh !!

chains, + light imbue pown in pve , if any one wants to grind to cap fast use lightning imbue , and pve skills like chains
later you can always sp farm extra to get fire so you can look like every one els and go pvp at cap , jees pvp this and pvp that
you also need to perform pve you know
but that world just dus not seem to exsist to some
in total a char will spend more time trying to grind to lvl 70 (soon 80 and soon after that 90 and mabe even higher ). than it dus pvping

the only time you get to fully pvp 100% of the time is when your capped fully farmed and bored .
Alot of ppl already know that one of the fastest lvling build in sro is a pure int ss lightning nuker 0 gap just lightning no other tree's
grind to cap , than farm alot and get more skills and other forces

I totally agree with you that the fastest lvling build is Pure INT Pure Lightning. But we are talking about damage here right? So if you are nuking it is better to use fire because it does more dmg. So if you want to be the best use fire (just my opinion).

[Tatianasaphira]

Btw Billion, anytime you want to test out if it works, Pm me on Axia, Str Hybrid, nearly at 90% Str Lightning Imbue.