Question about Venus

[Argonaut]

reading this thread is like riding in a merry-go-round. doesn't get you anywhere. just going around and round and round and round.

More like throwing apples at a brick wall. No matter how much you throw, its still going to be standing. NuclearSilo is still going to stick to his ignorance no matter how much times we prove him wrong. Its just like people who believe in religion.

[Malice_Fighter]

James

[RogueKiller]

Then explain to me how at the start of Venus, there was 10+ bot unions and just 1 legit union? Now there is 1 bot union, 4 legit unions and growing?

Its called a band wagon.

[Argonaut]

Then explain to me how at the start of Venus, there was 10+ bot unions and just 1 legit union? Now there is 1 bot union, 4 legit unions and growing?

Its called a band wagon.

Seems like the legits had a bunch of band wagons then. What happened, bots band wagons loose their wheels?

[AkillerNXC]

Hold on a second. Weren't you the one who offered to make a program to scan everyones PC for a bot/loader/whatever for a fracking forum. That does NOT effect them ingame. What the confederation does DOES effect them ingame. Looks like you made yourself look real stupid.

Nuclear, you have nothing you can argue with. You lose, stop trying. You went from attacking avalon...being wrong about it, so you attack the confederation...get replys that you can not argue against, and so now you resort to being D2A's slave and attacking NB.

You seem to think that there is not a single person on this game who has any good intentions, and plays the game a way its supposed to. You think everyones guilty. So by that logic, SG is a bot, your a bot, I'm a bot, D2A's a bot, Joymax is a bot, all of BlackHand is a bot, however many people play this game bot.

Also, stop being a little b1tch that believes everything. You believe avalon runs gold bots...you believe fly and nightbloom have alt's that bot 24/7. Your a moron. Try to analyze things for yourself, D2A isn't your mother.

<3 Report button.

[wootpops]

so blind, all of you.

[_Scarlett_]

Could the rule keep track of what NB does with her sub account? No.

Why do you keep bringing up NB and Fly in this topic; originally it was about the Venus Confed. rules. Please, you're just starting drama here bringing up irrelevant things to the original purpose. NB botted on Xian and I think that's common knowledge to pretty much all who's been around since then; however, it's not the same for Venus. Stop bringing up shit from the past. You're just starting drama and it's leaving a foul taste in the air.

Please, for the love of SRF, People: Stop making shit topics like this simply to get a rise out of people. This is turning into another korny, lame soap opera on, on mid-day.

[Snoopy]

Then explain to me how at the start of Venus, there was 10+ bot unions and just 1 legit union? Now there is 1 bot union, 4 legit unions and growing?

Its called a band wagon.

Seems like the legits had a bunch of band wagons then. What happened, bots band wagons loose their wheels?

I think the bots did the smart thing and packed up and left. Though it would be fun fighting against them =]

[DarthMaul]

Then explain to me how at the start of Venus, there was 10+ bot unions and just 1 legit union? Now there is 1 bot union, 4 legit unions and growing?

Its called a band wagon.

Seems like the legits had a bunch of band wagons then. What happened, bots band wagons loose their wheels?

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[Argonaut]

Its called a band wagon.

Seems like the legits had a bunch of band wagons then. What happened, bots band wagons loose their wheels?

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The truth is revealed!

[/Pi]

That's great!

We should all take every single video game, scrap every rule, and just slap this in there. Who cares about ToS? Who needs the EULA?

Can the ToS stop the bots? No
Can the EULA stop cheaters? No
So why they are there? To punish the cheaters
Do the cheaters care about his account, scared to be banned? Yes.

Can the confederation rule stop ppl to cheat? No
Can the confederation rule stop ppl to use their 2nd pc? No
Can the confederation let see the real face of someone? No
So why it is there? To ban ppl
Do they even care to get banned from the confederation? No

Oh yeah, I see the big similarity betweens the ban of an account and the ban from the confederation /sacasm

How do you know that (all) Venus players do not give a damn if they get banned from the Confederation? Here lies the problem with you and this thread - you don't play in Venus and you don't play SRO.

Have you seen the effects that the confederation have brought to Venus?

If it is indeed true that Venus players do not care about getting banned from the Confederation, which is probably one of the worst things you would never want to happen, then you can also argue that no one cares about the confederation. Then please explain to me why people sign up themselves and their guilds into the white list? Why do people bitch around and make Q.Q threads in the Confed forums when they get banned? Why do people try so hard to be removed from the Blacklist?

For a rule to be enforced and for people to give a damn about it, you have to have a working punishment. Joymax's method, with the ToS and the EULA, is banning from the game. Our method is banning from the Confederation - and the consequences that go with it. What are the consequences you ask? Let's just say that people re-roll their character to get away from these consequences. Others even move to different servers. A few even quit the game.

You parade your ignorance by running around in circles. Tell me, is it really that fun?

[Argonaut]

I don't think you understand the simple concept of cause and effect.


Cause -----> Effect

Get it?


Cut down forest ----> Destroy animals habitat

Go for a swim ----> Get wet

Post spam on forums ----> Get banned

????? ---> Legit Venus.


Fill in the blank. It starts with a C and has 13 letters.

[Tasdik]

I don't think you understand the simple concept of cause and effect.


Cause -----> Effect

Get it?


Cut down forest ----> Destroy animals habitat

Go for a swim ----> Get wet

Post spam on forums ----> Get banned

????? ---> Legit Venus.


Fill in the blank. It starts with a C and has 13 letters.

I'd like to buy a vowel please.

[Phaidra]

?o??e?e?a?io?

There's 6 for you.

[Argonaut]

?o??e?e?a?io?

There's 6 for you.

omg mind reader.

Nuclear Silo's Cause and Effect


Water is blue ---> CONSPIRACY

Sky is blue ---> How do you know sky isn't secretly being grey when no one is looking?

Legit Venus ---> ???

lolwut

[AkillerNXC]

Can I buy an R?

[mike2007]

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

damn u fly . i was gonna have so much fun editing his posts everytime he did somethin stupid (so basically all the time).

[Phaidra]

I can't believe this went 14 pages...

Anyway, from what I've seen in this thread every member of the Confederation has backed It's rules and rightly so. Of course implementing such rules as the 40+ one was going to affect a minority but It's benefited the majority. I'm sure members of the Confed knew that it would affect a small number of people, they're not stupid I'm sure it was discussed in length before it was passed.

I'm 40+ and guildless in venus and I'd still back this rule even though It's affected me. The rules might be tight and strict but It's goddamn working and I see more action than in any other server.

(This should be locked, people will never agree and the rules not going to change.)

[GreenTea]

At first I was skeptical at the Venus approach, but after 15+ hours of party play and interaction on Phoenix.. I can see why they do what they do.

[Argonaut]

At first I was skeptical at the Venus approach, but after 15+ hours of party play and interaction on Phoenix.. I can see why they do what they do.

Wait 15+ days and you'll start your own confederation.

[GreenTea]

At first I was skeptical at the Venus approach, but after 15+ hours of party play and interaction on Phoenix.. I can see why they do what they do.

Wait 15+ days and you'll start your own confederation.

I already feel like doing so.. And looks like Odyssey, Synergy, Destiny, etc.. are already in the 30's and unioning on Day 2 of the server.

[Shadowfox542]

People not from Venus: Rules are epic strict.
People from Venus: PRAISE THE CONFEDERATION

/thread.

[AngloKnight]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

[Crumpets]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

I love you teddy.

[Shadowfox542]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

He asks questions and posts based on fact, his opnions are generally not the same as the bulk of the members. In my opinion, he contributes far more to the forum than most.


Also, I love you Crumpets.

[Barotix]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

One thread = Constant problem? Silo's name was only brought up for discussion twice and it was because his sig was to big. I don't think that makes him a constant problem.

[Maniac]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

why would they ban NuclearSilo because he disagree with u and others? NuclearSilo is the probably the most intelligent member of SRF and contributed a lot to SRF. im hopeful that he will finish his work calculating the dmg formula and his autoit program to detect bots. he's a generous person and share his work and findings, unlike some.

[Doppleganger]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

People are gonna start doing this crap all the time now watch.
"so and so's a constant problem ban ban ban"
ppf

[AngloKnight]

seriously, if SRF's moderators are fair, then NuclearSilo should be banned ASAP... s/he's a "constant problem" isn't s/he??? everyone DOES agree with me I bet...

People are gonna start doing this crap all the time now watch.
"so and so's a constant problem ban ban ban"
ppf

blame the ones that banned NB for being a constant problem.. anyone CAN be a constant, just choose the right words to justify your action...

And yeah, any averaged IQ one reading the whole damn 14 pages will know that NuclearSilo is an idiot pretending to be an idiot, looping around a null discussion with no objective, and zero contribution... c'mon, someone summarize me wat has been going on here, and wat did we reach from this discussion?? it's obvious that NuclearSilo is trying to cause drama, and decredit ppl.. if you can't see it, then your dumb...

[Snoopy]

Silo contributes a fare bit to the community, those who simply linger around the General Discussion may not realise the contributions in other parts of the forum.

You're saying that because Silo's opinion is different to that of some or most in this thread that they should be banned for being a constant problem.

• Constant: Doesn't change, Always the same, Does not vary.
• Problem: A difficulty which has to be solved.

We put them together and we have a difficulty which can not be solved and does not vary.

That in my opinion, because Silo's opinion, in one thread opposes your does not make him a constant problem.

My 2 cents.

Edit:

@AngloKnight - From this thread we, as in people who do not play Venus have established what is meant by having a confederation in an mmorpg, something which is unheard of in most of the other servers. We have established and understood the rules of the server. No; I have not read every single post on all 14 pages, and yes I think this thread is going rather off topic, however it can not be too bad if it isn't locked by a Moderator.