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dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


Lol that was the best.

@StuckUP

You don't really have to get the last word, but you do have to win. And if you don't have to win, then that's weird.

I hate it when people are like "You have to be right about everything". DUH! Why should I want to be wrong?

Xemnas is making up more crap though. He keeps making assumptions of what I think.

That's all for now.

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StuckUP wrote:I'm all for evolution. I mean if we where just created like BAM! just like that at the beggining then where did all those fossils of ancient creatures come from? They can't just appear like that can they? If we where just created like that then why are we only able to find fossils of small primitive humans intstead of ones that resemble humans of this time? I simply just refuse to believe the words of 40 people who wrote a book 2000 years ago which I have to mention was a time of bliss ignorance.

.....*holds it in* Oh god I want to respond to that comment so badly, Yet I don't want to be an ass :P
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dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


not everyone

I've done it with dom, reise, hershey, Choco (kinda), raingul and now who ever Jex was before that account got banned..

Reise dom - you guys have very conservative ideals when it comes to some issues which rubs me the wrong way

Hershey, Raingul - just remind me of the kidz in class who said things like "Slavery wasn't that bad"

Choco Jex - can be jerks for lack of a better word

Im not saying im innocent i can be a downright asshole sometimes but dom you can be a dick alot too, replying to most ppl with a sarcastic demeaning post isn't anymore clever than me calling raingul incompetent because of his age.
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StaticX wrote:
StuckUP wrote:I'm all for evolution. I mean if we where just created like BAM! just like that at the beggining then where did all those fossils of ancient creatures come from? They can't just appear like that can they? If we where just created like that then why are we only able to find fossils of small primitive humans intstead of ones that resemble humans of this time? I simply just refuse to believe the words of 40 people who wrote a book 2000 years ago which I have to mention was a time of bliss ignorance.

.....*holds it in* Oh god I want to respond to that comment so badly, Yet I don't want to be an ass :P


go ahead I'm not gonna get angry at you....I think
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StaticX wrote:
StuckUP wrote:I'm all for evolution. I mean if we where just created like BAM! just like that at the beggining then where did all those fossils of ancient creatures come from? They can't just appear like that can they? If we where just created like that then why are we only able to find fossils of small primitive humans intstead of ones that resemble humans of this time? I simply just refuse to believe the words of 40 people who wrote a book 2000 years ago which I have to mention was a time of bliss ignorance.

.....*holds it in* Oh god I want to respond to that comment so badly, Yet I don't want to be an ass :P


as long as it puts the thread back on topic say it plz
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XemnasXD wrote:
dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


not everyone

I've done it with dom, reise, hershey, Choco (kinda), raingul and now who ever Jex was before that account got banned..

Reise dom - you guys have very conservative ideals when it comes to some issues which rubs me the wrong way

Hershey, Raingul - just remind me of the kidz in class who said things like "Slavery wasn't that bad"

Choco Jex - can be jerks for lack of a better word

Im not saying im innocent i can be a downright asshole sometimes but dom you can be a dick alot too, replying to most ppl with a sarcastic demeaning post isn't anymore clever than me calling raingul incompetent because of his age.


Lol, I know that I sound like a total dick, but I am being devils advocate too. I don't like what I'm saying, but I still think it's true.

Slavery wasn't that bad, lol. But wouldn't you like to have someone do all your work for you?
Yes yes, they're people, but people didn't really think it that way back then.
Yes yes, I sound stupid, but this will be my last post saying anything of this nature. Hopefully.

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You're right Rainy, slavery isn't that bad. I say we go back to the old ways, I've found the perfect group to enslave. "Retarded Animal Babies" fans. :roll:

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[SD]draquish wrote:You're right Rainy, slavery isn't that bad. I say we go back to the old ways, I've found the perfect group to enslave. "Retarded Animal Babies" fans. :roll:


If it wasn't for slavery, then all black people in america would still be living in huts in africa.

If it wasn't for slavery, the world wouldn't be how it is today, obviously.

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TBH:

I don't care.

Just don't propose to go back to the old ways. :roll:

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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
Lol, I know that I sound like a total dick, but I am being devils advocate too. I don't like what I'm saying, but I still think it's true.

Slavery wasn't that bad, lol. But wouldn't you like to have someone do all your work for you?
Yes yes, they're people, but people didn't really think it that way back then.
Yes yes, I sound stupid, but this will be my last post saying anything of this nature. Hopefully.


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What case?!?

LoL.

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[SD]draquish wrote:TBH:

I don't care.

Just don't propose to go back to the old ways. :roll:


never did.

@Xemnas

Imagine a world where there was no slavery.

Did you know that like half of the union army joined purely because they didn't want slavery? So if it wasn't for slavery, then the US would be confederate style.

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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


not everyone

I've done it with dom, reise, hershey, Choco (kinda), raingul and now who ever Jex was before that account got banned..

Reise dom - you guys have very conservative ideals when it comes to some issues which rubs me the wrong way

Hershey, Raingul - just remind me of the kidz in class who said things like "Slavery wasn't that bad"

Choco Jex - can be jerks for lack of a better word

Im not saying im innocent i can be a downright asshole sometimes but dom you can be a dick alot too, replying to most ppl with a sarcastic demeaning post isn't anymore clever than me calling raingul incompetent because of his age.


Lol, I know that I sound like a total dick, but I am being devils advocate too. I don't like what I'm saying, but I still think it's true.

Slavery wasn't that bad, lol. But wouldn't you like to have someone do all your work for you?
Yes yes, they're people, but people didn't really think it that way back then.
Yes yes, I sound stupid, but this will be my last post saying anything of this nature. Hopefully.


Yes Rai you do sound like a dick.....slavery was all that bad and more. They used to torture the slaves in ways you've never heard of and would SHRUDDER to think about it happening to you. And slavery wasn't a physical state which I'm sure you're thinking it is it's a mental state(ask me if you want me to explain)
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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


not everyone

I've done it with dom, reise, hershey, Choco (kinda), raingul and now who ever Jex was before that account got banned..

Reise dom - you guys have very conservative ideals when it comes to some issues which rubs me the wrong way

Hershey, Raingul - just remind me of the kidz in class who said things like "Slavery wasn't that bad"

Choco Jex - can be jerks for lack of a better word

Im not saying im innocent i can be a downright asshole sometimes but dom you can be a dick alot too, replying to most ppl with a sarcastic demeaning post isn't anymore clever than me calling raingul incompetent because of his age.


Lol, I know that I sound like a total dick, but I am being devils advocate too. I don't like what I'm saying, but I still think it's true.

Slavery wasn't that bad, lol. But wouldn't you like to have someone do all your work for you?
Yes yes, they're people, but people didn't really think it that way back then.
Yes yes, I sound stupid, but this will be my last post saying anything of this nature. Hopefully.


xemnas i hope you realise.
that they kinda did themselves in.
heres the scenario

*THE SCENARIO*
Bob Green, goes 2 africa land of "savages"
Bob Green meets King Ademola
King Ademola has recently won a war, and the spoils of war are the enemy... who is the enemy? other africans...
Bob Green ask 2 purchase some of these africans
Ademola says no, white man is evil
Bob Green Says i'll give you guns
Ademola says, white man very good, here are your slaves.
Bob Green goes ahh this land isnt full of "savages" nice doing buisness with you


*************
end scenario
*************

although it probadly didnt go exactly like that, it was pretty similar.
just so im not accused of being ignorant or white, im yoruba

*EDIT*
other than that.... slavery has been around for years, and still is just in a different form...

but yes the african slave trade was bad.
the conditions they had 2 endure are absolutly apalling

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Barotix wrote:
[SD]Rainigul wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:
dom wrote:
XemnasXD wrote: Raingul kept coming back at me every step of the way


Sort of like the thing you do to everyone?


not everyone

I've done it with dom, reise, hershey, Choco (kinda), raingul and now who ever Jex was before that account got banned..

Reise dom - you guys have very conservative ideals when it comes to some issues which rubs me the wrong way

Hershey, Raingul - just remind me of the kidz in class who said things like "Slavery wasn't that bad"

Choco Jex - can be jerks for lack of a better word

Im not saying im innocent i can be a downright asshole sometimes but dom you can be a dick alot too, replying to most ppl with a sarcastic demeaning post isn't anymore clever than me calling raingul incompetent because of his age.


Lol, I know that I sound like a total dick, but I am being devils advocate too. I don't like what I'm saying, but I still think it's true.

Slavery wasn't that bad, lol. But wouldn't you like to have someone do all your work for you?
Yes yes, they're people, but people didn't really think it that way back then.
Yes yes, I sound stupid, but this will be my last post saying anything of this nature. Hopefully.


xemnas i hope you realise.
that they kinda did themselves in.
heres the scenario

*THE SCENARIO*
Bob Green, goes 2 africa land of "savages"
Bob Green meets King Ademola
King Ademola has recently won a war, and the spoils of war are the enemy... who is the enemy? other africans...
Bob Green ask 2 purchase some of these africans
Ademola says no, white man is evil
Bob Green Says i'll give you guns
Ademola says, white man very good, here are your slaves.
Bob Green goes ahh this land isnt full of "savages" nice doing buisness with you


*************
end scenario
*************

although it probadly didnt go exactly like that, it was pretty similar.
just so im not accused of being ignorant or white, im yoruba


*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened
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StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened


And you're such an intellectual.
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dom wrote:
StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened


And you're such an intellectual.


wow Xenmas was right.....you're such a sarcastic dick. OMG get a life the comment wasn't even directed at you!!!
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StuckUP wrote:
dom wrote:
StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened


And you're such an intellectual.


wow Xenmas was right.....you're such a sarcastic dick. OMG get a life the comment wasn't even directed at you!!!


I don't get it....This was a great topic. Yes it had a few flames cause of diffrent oppinions, but this is getting out of hand. Just drop it guys. Dom I just say stay out of the the thread if you're gunna keep acting like a little dick.
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Oh man I wish I was part of this particular squabble.
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Reise wrote:Oh man I wish I was part of this particular squabble.


You can take my place, I'm done.

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lulz wtf? it was about crationism and stuff then it turned into slavery and about dom's dick o_O


and I dont feel like reading everything anyone care to resume?
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Fat_Smurf wrote:lulz wtf? it was about crationism and stuff then it turned into slavery and about dom's dick o_O


and I dont feel like reading everything anyone care to resume?



I want to talk about evolution and creationism again.

I'll start off by saying:

Where did god come from? If you say "he's always been there". How is that possible? When did time start?
If you say "He made himself". How is it possible to make yourself?
If you say "he appeared one day". Matter cannot be created or destroyed.
If you say "He's not matter". Then what is he?

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StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened

apparently you think i was joking?
that was a serious post.
honestly in every war in human history, there have been victims
the enslaved africans were just victims of thier own warmongering, or greed.

1 thing africans lacked were guns
europeans got guns from the muslims, and made them better.
in order 2 obtain cheap labor for the new world the started trading slaves.

do you know where the word slave comes from?
from the term slav
slavs are eastern europeans, that where origanally used as cheap slave labor.

but when the pope passed an edict stating, enslaving another christian = excommunication, the EUs had 2 comply.

so following the arabics, who btw, set up the "rules" for trading slaves.
they did what the arabs did, enslave africans.

first off:
thier strong
immune 2 american deseases
are not familiar with the american land scape like native americans

from a warlords point of view, the slave trade was a natural occuring matter for humans.

but as i said several times, people change humans change thier ideas change.

when they can no longer adapt they are destroyed by the very forces of nature.

chaotic.
evolution
so it doesnt matter if you agree or not, the african slave trade, no matter how crude ties in with evolution.

and its only white people, or black people not native to africa and its history that get troubled over the idea of slavery.

EUs were simply capitalizing on what warring tribes were doing 2 ea other.

im yoruba, my best friend is Ibo.
he hates hausa people, but thats just a different form of rascism.

he said if he nvr got 2 know me, he would probadly hate my guts.

rascism
slavery
evolution
change
controlling nature
war
hate
love
emotions
corruption
its all very chaotic, but at the same time beautiful.
the human mind at its best
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If you say "He's not matter". Then what is he?


He is god.... :P
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Barotix wrote:
StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened

apparently you think i was joking?
that was a serious post.
honestly in every war in human history, there have been victims
the enslaved africans were just victims of thier own warmongering, or greed.

1 thing africans lacked were guns
europeans got guns from the muslims, and made them better.
in order 2 obtain cheap labor for the new world the started trading slaves.

do you know where the word slave comes from?
from the term slav
slavs are eastern europeans, that where origanally used as cheap slave labor.

but when the pope passed an edict stating, enslaving another christian = excommunication, the EUs had 2 comply.

so following the arabics, who btw, set up the "rules" for trading slaves.
they did what the arabs did, enslave africans.

first off:
thier strong
immune 2 american deseases
are not familiar with the american land scape like native americans

from a warlords point of view, the slave trade was a natural occuring matter for humans.

but as i said several times, people change humans change thier ideas change.

when they can no longer adapt they are destroyed by the very forces of nature.

chaotic.
evolution
so it doesnt matter if you agree or not, the african slave trade, no matter how crude ties in with evolution.

and its only white people, or black people not native to africa and its history that get troubled over the idea of slavery.

EUs were simply capitalizing on what warring tribes were doing 2 ea other.

im yoruba, my best friend is Ibo.
he hates hausa people, but thats just a different form of rascism.

he said if he nvr got 2 know me, he would probadly hate my guts.

rascism
slavery
evolution
change
controlling nature
war
hate
love
emotions
corruption
its all very chaotic, but at the same time beautiful.
the human mind at its best


let's get this straight.....If I was being sarcastic I would have done this [sarcasm]blahblahblahblah(the sarcastic phrase but of course you knew that)[/sarcasm]
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StuckUP wrote:
Barotix wrote:
StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened

apparently you think i was joking?
that was a serious post.
honestly in every war in human history, there have been victims
the enslaved africans were just victims of thier own warmongering, or greed.

1 thing africans lacked were guns
europeans got guns from the muslims, and made them better.
in order 2 obtain cheap labor for the new world the started trading slaves.

do you know where the word slave comes from?
from the term slav
slavs are eastern europeans, that where origanally used as cheap slave labor.

but when the pope passed an edict stating, enslaving another christian = excommunication, the EUs had 2 comply.

so following the arabics, who btw, set up the "rules" for trading slaves.
they did what the arabs did, enslave africans.

first off:
thier strong
immune 2 american deseases
are not familiar with the american land scape like native americans

from a warlords point of view, the slave trade was a natural occuring matter for humans.

but as i said several times, people change humans change thier ideas change.

when they can no longer adapt they are destroyed by the very forces of nature.

chaotic.
evolution
so it doesnt matter if you agree or not, the african slave trade, no matter how crude ties in with evolution.

and its only white people, or black people not native to africa and its history that get troubled over the idea of slavery.

EUs were simply capitalizing on what warring tribes were doing 2 ea other.

im yoruba, my best friend is Ibo.
he hates hausa people, but thats just a different form of rascism.

he said if he nvr got 2 know me, he would probadly hate my guts.

rascism
slavery
evolution
change
controlling nature
war
hate
love
emotions
corruption
its all very chaotic, but at the same time beautiful.
the human mind at its best


let's get this straight.....If I was being sarcastic I would have done this [sarcasm]blahblahblahblah(the sarcastic phrase but of course you knew that)[/sarcasm]


-.- Didn't have to quote his whole post.
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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:lulz wtf? it was about crationism and stuff then it turned into slavery and about dom's dick o_O


and I dont feel like reading everything anyone care to resume?



I want to talk about evolution and creationism again.

I'll start off by saying:

Where did god come from? If you say "he's always been there". How is that possible? When did time start?
If you say "He made himself". How is it possible to make yourself?
If you say "he appeared one day". Matter cannot be created or destroyed.
If you say "He's not matter". Then what is he?


good questions
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[SD]Rainigul wrote:
Fat_Smurf wrote:lulz wtf? it was about crationism and stuff then it turned into slavery and about dom's dick o_O


and I dont feel like reading everything anyone care to resume?



I want to talk about evolution and creationism again.

I'll start off by saying:

1]Where did god come from? If you say "he's always been there". How is that possible? When did time start?
2]If you say "He made himself". How is it possible to make yourself?
3] If you say "he appeared one day". Matter cannot be created or destroyed.
4]If you say "He's not matter". Then what is he?


1]time is not real
2]we made him/it
3]"he" didnt we appeared via evolution, and were ignorant of the world. so we came up with abstract ideas 2 solve problems.

such as
math
and God
4]energy is matter, he is energy, therefore he is matter
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The slave trade started off the way you describe it barotix but that was a short lived beginning and eventually they stopped trading with Africans and just started raiding....i think some teachers may blow the "they did it to themselves" thing out of proportion.
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StaticX wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
Barotix wrote:
StuckUP wrote:*sighs dreamily* you are so enlightened

apparently you think i was joking?
that was a serious post.
honestly in every war in human history, there have been victims
the enslaved africans were just victims of thier own warmongering, or greed.

1 thing africans lacked were guns
europeans got guns from the muslims, and made them better.
in order 2 obtain cheap labor for the new world the started trading slaves.

do you know where the word slave comes from?
from the term slav
slavs are eastern europeans, that where origanally used as cheap slave labor.

but when the pope passed an edict stating, enslaving another christian = excommunication, the EUs had 2 comply.

so following the arabics, who btw, set up the "rules" for trading slaves.
they did what the arabs did, enslave africans.

first off:
thier strong
immune 2 american deseases
are not familiar with the american land scape like native americans

from a warlords point of view, the slave trade was a natural occuring matter for humans.

but as i said several times, people change humans change thier ideas change.

when they can no longer adapt they are destroyed by the very forces of nature.

chaotic.
evolution
so it doesnt matter if you agree or not, the african slave trade, no matter how crude ties in with evolution.

and its only white people, or black people not native to africa and its history that get troubled over the idea of slavery.

EUs were simply capitalizing on what warring tribes were doing 2 ea other.

im yoruba, my best friend is Ibo.
he hates hausa people, but thats just a different form of rascism.

he said if he nvr got 2 know me, he would probadly hate my guts.

rascism
slavery
evolution
change
controlling nature
war
hate
love
emotions
corruption
its all very chaotic, but at the same time beautiful.
the human mind at its best


let's get this straight.....If I was being sarcastic I would have done this [sarcasm]blahblahblahblah(the sarcastic phrase but of course you knew that)[/sarcasm]


-.- Didn't have to quote his whole post.


Neither did you, or I. Lawl.
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