Why being Legit is better than Botting

[TheDrop]

if u expect me to read 4 pages of posts with more than 30 sentences in each, u got me wrong -.-. i just read the first post, and i agree with u barotix . now we need somone to put this in sro official forum and in all the bot forums . but i doubt they are gonna pull back

[Barotix]

this is soooo flawed

yeah, call it flawed without an explanation. Genius.

[TheDrop]

this is soooo flawed

yeah, call it flawed without an explanation. Genius.

lol

[Grandpa]

this is soooo flawed

yeah, call it flawed without an explanation. Genius.

Barotix's work is based on the work of a Nobel Laureate.
You can research the Tragedy of the Commons if you'd like.

But you won't be able to debunk it.
Oh, "research" isn't the same as spoon-fed pablum from Google, just by the way.

"This is too high for me, it is way off in the distance, too far."
"Who will reach into the sky and pull it down?"
"Who will travel to the ends of it so that I can understand?"

Barotix: "Send me."

SRF User: "Thank you kind sir."
SRF User2: "Barotix can has meh for dis"

[Knight_Ange1]

Wow. That guy took too much time on his hands just to prove something that's not going to do anything different towards JM or botters or the whole game itself. A+ for effort, but a D- for it actually doing something. Besides, all the botters can't read it because they're all banned from this website forum, anyways.

[SCArchon]

Just a point to add:

In this world no one cares about long - term effects. It's just the mind-set of people. EVERYONE want instant results. (gratifaction?)

im sure most people have heard of global warming. (im one of those too)
but how many of us actually
A) take public transport (i dont)
B) reuse old products (U think im gonna use a styrofoam cup again?!)
C) waste less electricity (my house have lots of lights on >_<)
D) waste less water.. (20 minutes bath :X)
E) And others.

Oh noes it doesn't stop there.
car companies actually take advantage of "global warming" with the "Green sticker" thing i think.
yeah sure cars use different fuel, not oil anymore! YAY!!

that pollutes more. (or so i heard)

[Alexxx07]

hummm you have many free time isnt

well bots are part of the game get over it ppl

[Stephanus]

Barotix(almost.. almost there )

I think, this topic has only one flaw.
Humans.

Sure, its a nonsense at first sight, but anyone who encounters the bot problem faces this side of a human.
Weak, fragile, selfish and so on... what could i say more?
I had many problems of this sort related to coworkers, late friends, common ppl.
How ppl "work"? (imho)
Every human being has his own reality. This might be absurd, but this is how it works. Most ppl as i see are beings with closed eyes... what does this mean? Closed eyes equals to be ignorant to other or anything that could change the persons life in a way he does not believe it exists. (here comes their personal universe)
Pll in average build their own personal worlds on beliefs, not on facts. We are not a rational race in the first time. Few % of ppl can learn to think as a logical being, but thats pretty rare. This world is a closed object, its not open. Ppl tend to not see what they dont want to see or they believe that thing/being isnt exists (seek out Andrew Feldmár on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Feldm%C3%A1r )
The other big shock of my life was, im not a conscius being.
Rly.
My ego is only a facade. Pll do in average almost everything based on emotions and not on logic. Usually when you suck, you do something stupid you are'nt aware of and then face the consequesnces. If you are a true friend of the sucker, you dont judge him/her but help him/her to endure the consequences of their deeds.

My point is, you have to show them an example what they do trough botting could be accomplished with bare hands too. There is theory and there is the reality in you have to give them hope, example and so on.
If you know the theory, you can apply it trough your actions but its dam hard. You have to translate logic and math into emotions.
Gl doing it:)

There are rules and consequences, BUT, we are humans damit!
We are immature, not perfect. We have to endure it.

EDIT: dam typos.

[VanTokkern]

It's a nice post, but it's a bit redundant. It's pretty obvious cheating does not positively affect the greater community. It also only shows what went wrong, or why, rather than presenting ways to solve the problem... to me it's just a big whine explained in some nice words..

Your conclusions are a bit flawed too. Me buying Silk does not positively affect anyone else in the game at all, directly or indirectly. If anything it would be a bad influence to others.. I'm walking around with a shiny weapon at lvl 80, and you're wearing greys grinding ongs. Wouldn't that piss you off? We spent the same amount of hours on this game..

What it comes down to is that this game requires a bot to play, anyone that leveled by hand to 90, maybe even 80, needs to take a serious look at themselves..
Being better than their neighbour might not even be the reason many people bot. The most fun is at level cap, why wait longer than you need to?

And lastly, am I the first to compare gold buying to silk buying? It's exactly the same thing, you're BUYING ingame items with real money, the only difference is that Joymax doesn't sell the gold. Both are giving you an unfair advantage, only difference being one is allowed the other isn't

As for my closing argument: "If you can't beat them, join them."

Ps. I'm level 40

[Grimjaw]

As for my closing argument: "If you can't beat them, join them."

Thankfully that's not how many people see it.
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The very fact that it needs to be explained is sad in itself. But following history's weave about these subjects, it is understandable..

But we must persist no matter what. Good job Barotix.

I salute and applaud you're efforts and hope they reach deaf ears.

We might see the day yet..

[Twist]

Bot is a simple game cheat,i piss on some peoples for hating bots same as they hate they worst enemies,people need go out.

[Barotix]

Bot is a simple game cheat,i piss on some peoples for hating bots same as they hate they worst enemies,people need go out.

You didn't understand the post and neither did VanTokkern. What else is new? Gotta love the GD.

[Twist]

Bot is a simple game cheat,i piss on some peoples for hating bots same as they hate they worst enemies,people need go out.

You didn't understand the post and neither did VanTokkern. What else is new? Gotta love the GD.

TBH i even didnt read it,i just posted my opinion on botting lol.

[Barotix]

to me it's just a big whine explained in some nice words..

It was an appeal to logos.

Your conclusions are a bit flawed too. Me buying Silk does not positively affect anyone else in the game at all, directly or indirectly

The company requires silk to run the game and provide updates. How is buying silk not helping others including yourself?

If anything it would be a bad influence to others.. I'm walking around with a shiny weapon at lvl 80, and you're wearing greys grinding ongs. Wouldn't that piss you off? We spent the same amount of hours on this game..

Classic example of the type of player that would bot. Did you actually understand the 1st post? No it wouldn't piss me off, no we did not spend the same amount of time in game. If you reached 90 legitimately then I have no reason to dislike you. Why should I be pissed over pixels, doesn't that very post contradict another part of your argument? You can have fun at all levels.

What it comes down to is that this game requires a bot to play, anyone that leveled by hand to 90, maybe even 80, needs to take a serious look at themselves..

You don't need a bot to have fun. If it took them a year to cap, they're a no lifer? Lol, what? Seriously, think. First you said players will get pissed over pixels, now they have to question their life because they managed to cap out?

Being better than their neighbour might not even be the reason many people bot. The most fun is at level cap, why wait longer than you need to?

Most botters start botting because A]Their tired of grinding, B]They're jealous of other high-levels, C]The game interferes with their life, or D]Because they think you have to be high level to have fun. Non of these excuses are good ones and they all stem from the same source: Addiction.

And lastly, am I the first to compare gold buying to silk buying? It's exactly the same thing, you're BUYING ingame items with real money, the only difference is that Joymax doesn't sell the gold. Both are giving you an unfair advantage, only difference being one is allowed the other isn't

That is the single most ludicrous statement in this topic.

As for my closing argument: "If you can't beat them, join them."

Once again: Did you read and comprehend my post?

Don't bump a 2 month old topic with rubbish.