My thoughts that really dont matter, but o well.

[Barotix]

The exposed botters section was a terrible mistake.
The way I see it, there are pretty much two different types of people on these forums. I'll compare them to the US political system.

The people who want all botters to be banned are the Republicans. They are conservative and think things should be done in a very specific way. They are anti-choice and say "It's my way or the highway". THEY don't have to bot, let other people make their own decitions, says I.

The people who don't want all botters to be banned are the Democrats. They are more liberal and believe people have a right to do what they want. They are pro-choice and say "I'll do things my way and you do things your way, but let's all get along, huh?". They don't have to bot, but they can if they want, and they let other people make the same decition.

I think it shouldn't be botters who are banned, it should be egomaniacs. *cough*nighbloom*cough*. Sorry nightbloom, I used to like you because you were knowledgable and nice. But now you're just an asshat who self promotes herself all the time. If you want to stroke your ego, do it on your own forum. Nobody will like to listen to it, but it's your forum so I guess you can do what you want.

Hey bloke and others, did you Yankee-doodles happen to see this thread: o'er here der poppot

[AkillerNXC]

Crumpets, did you mean me agreeing with nuclear?... I've read everything in that section. And just because someone doesn't have 500000+ post counts and doesn't post in every single topic does not mean they aren't contributing to a section.

<3 @ rainigul. Exactly, you don't have to bot, its your choice, not everyone has to agree with you. If they want to bot, let them, can't stop them anyways.

Fly, he didn't say ban the legits. He said that it should be people that are douche's, arseholes, etc. Not whether people bot or not.

[Barotix]

Crumpets, did you mean me agreeing with nuclear?... I've read everything in that section. And just because someone doesn't have 500000+ post counts and doesn't post in every single topic does not mean they aren't contributing to a section.

<3 @ rainigul. Exactly, you don't have to bot, its your choice, not everyone has to agree with you. If they want to bot, let them, can't stop them anyways.

Fly, he didn't say ban the legits. He said that it should be people that are douche's, arseholes, etc. Not whether people bot or not.

Name me one game, other than silkroad online, were botters are treated like normal people rather than the garbage scum they are for cheating, and i will actually give a damn what you anti-banning bot people have to say.

We don't ban known botters, ya'll bitch and whine. We decide to ban known botters, whom, some of you happen to be friends with Ya'll bitch and whine; don't dare call us hypocrits without taking a look at ya'll twisted idea of justice.

Oh and before you pull up the temp ban, here is something to keep in mind, a quote from non-ego-man [paraphrase as usual]

X =/= Z =/= Y =/= X, therefore the same punishment cannot be served.

[Alfred]

Raini, as much as being liberal means that people should have the freedom to do whatever they choose, as much it also means that the responibility of their actions increase. Committing to something that brings down a whole game isn't the best way to express that freedom.



SRF is no SRO. And definitaly not JM. This new section should have been a part of the forum the very day bots became an increasing problem of SRO.

[non ego man]

...I'll compare them to the US political system...

WHAT...

THE...

F*CK???

Seriously

[MrBow]

a temp ban? geezz....

So what if you banned Luoma? that's no problem, but you're afraid that it's not only Luoma. Imagine if 75 % of the mod gets banned for botting, it will certainly not do any good to the confidence that people have in the staff.

Lol banning Luoma no problem? Luoma was an awesome staffmember. A great member of the team.
IF Syl gets a temp ban, you're unhappy? Lol. You said mods should follow the same rules as members, well you're right. Thus they shouldn't be punished harder than any member for the same offense.
You are allowed to imagine 75% of the staff banned for botting. Dream on. Lol, now it's my turn to imagine a situation, a situation where someone gets eventually banned by breaking rule #5.

[ThisIsAvalon]

a temp ban? geezz....

So what if you banned Luoma? that's no problem, but you're afraid that it's not only Luoma. Imagine if 75 % of the mod gets banned for botting, it will certainly not do any good to the confidence that people have in the staff.

Lol banning Luoma no problem? Luoma was an awesome staffmember. A great member of the team.
IF Syl gets a temp ban, you're unhappy? Lol. You said mods should follow the same rules as members, well you're right. Thus they shouldn't be punished harder than any member for the same offense.
You are allowed to imagine 75% of the staff banned for botting. Dream on. Lol, now it's my turn to imagine a situation, a situation where someone gets eventually banned by breaking rule #5.

Just if you dont know.......

5) Be a constant problem. Flame in nearly every post. Accuse everyone who starts a topic of being a bot. Spam ridiculous nonsense at any opportunity. Do stupid things to intentionally a) piss off the mod team or b) piss off another forum member. Inflate your post count with garbage. Post disturbing, inappropriate, or NSFW (not safe for work) images in threads, avatars, sigs, etc. If you intentionally make more work for us, you'll find yourself banned.

[---Rev---]

You are allowed to imagine 75% of the staff banned for botting. Dream on. Lol, now it's my turn to imagine a situation, a situation where someone gets eventually banned by breaking rule #5.

Did you not do that with your post regarding [AoW]ForLife and _SunTzu_ in the thread regarding sylhana botting.

[andrejat]

You people are trying to ban some very smart, cool people who bot from a community that bot in a game which honest to god, doesnt care if you bot or not.

That's the bottom line. Your just losing members, I know for a fact many many many many people on here bot. Why not just ban 80+% of the members now?

[[AoW]ForLife]

Did you not do that with your post regarding [AoW]ForLife and _SunTzu_ in the thread regarding sylhana botting.

Nah he didn't, it's not a crime to want to worship someone. But, for some reason, he never messaged me about grinding Pacific to give us gold . I'm confident it's merely because he couldn't log in. Poor guy. He must have spent hours trying to log in all to no avail. What a sad fate .

[heroo]

a temp ban? geezz....

So what if you banned Luoma? that's no problem, but you're afraid that it's not only Luoma. Imagine if 75 % of the mod gets banned for botting, it will certainly not do any good to the confidence that people have in the staff.

Lol banning Luoma no problem? Luoma was an awesome staffmember. A great member of the team.
IF Syl gets a temp ban, you're unhappy? Lol. You said mods should follow the same rules as members, well you're right. Thus they shouldn't be punished harder than any member for the same offense.
You are allowed to imagine 75% of the staff banned for botting. Dream on. Lol, now it's my turn to imagine a situation, a situation where someone gets eventually banned by breaking rule #5.

rofl, is that a threat?

and just for the record: i've been here longer than you, and i think i know luoma better than you. Why I am so pissed of is because Luoma is banned and Sylhana not. Luoma was one of the nicest guys on this forum and one of the best mods, i think you guys stabbed him in the back with that ban.

[darkmaster21]

a temp ban? geezz....

So what if you banned Luoma? that's no problem, but you're afraid that it's not only Luoma. Imagine if 75 % of the mod gets banned for botting, it will certainly not do any good to the confidence that people have in the staff.

Lol banning Luoma no problem? Luoma was an awesome staffmember. A great member of the team.
IF Syl gets a temp ban, you're unhappy? Lol. You said mods should follow the same rules as members, well you're right. Thus they shouldn't be punished harder than any member for the same offense.
You are allowed to imagine 75% of the staff banned for botting. Dream on. Lol, now it's my turn to imagine a situation, a situation where someone gets eventually banned by breaking rule #5.

rofl, is that a threat?

and just for the record: i've been here longer than you, and i think i know luoma better than you. Why I am so pissed of is because Luoma is banned and Sylhana not. Luoma was one of the nicest guys on this forum and one of the best mods, i think you guys stabbed him in the back with that ban.

How did we "stab" Luoma in the back with that ban? There was sufficent evidence to support him of botting, and he agreed it was him.

There was no permanent ban on Syl because there was NOT ENOUGH evidence to show that he botted.

Just stop acting like a child and live with it.

[heroo]

How did we "stab" Luoma in the back with that ban? There was sufficent evidence to support him of botting, and he agreed it was him.

There was no permanent ban on Syl because there was NOT ENOUGH evidence to show that he botted.

Just stop acting like a child and live with it.

don't call me a child, i'm not the one crying about bots.

but hey, wtf am i doing? nothing's gonna change anyways, i won't say anything anymore.

peace out.

[SuicideGrl]

but hey, wtf am i doing? nothing's gonna change anyways

right.