Even Joymax banned this guy..

[Sacchin]

He was banned by joymax for botting, there is no proof they got it wrong and unbanned him so he should be banned here

The proof is on the silkroadonline forums in the bot list for Xian

Is joymax infallible? >_>

I would like an answer to this, really.

[Fuhito]

Do you have such media of Fly and Bloom?

I never brought up Bloom, someone else did. The point I'm trying to make is, is Joymax's banning, rebanning of Fly and the lack of evidence proving it was a false banning enough evidence to warrant a ban from SRF? The only evidence of it being a false banning is Fly's word. If Fly's excuse is permitted then everyone else's should be as well. But we can see that is not the case and favoritism is alive and well in this section. If you are going to admit Fly's word is enough to prevent his banning then why aren't others and why does this section even exist?

SG: I'd rather this section not exist. IMO your destroying a community that isn't only about SRO. I didn't like using Luoma as an example but it seemed like enough evidence to prove slower actions are made for friends when your trying to institute such a strict, unforgiving policy.

[Ryoko]

Do you honestly think someones gonna pull the trigger on a moderator before checking into it?

Yes! We would take more time before kicking them off the staff.

Use your head.

I dont like this subforum either. Cause anyone who doesnt like <someone> is going to make a post about <anyone> without posting anything substantial but "said-so" then cry its unfair when its ignored.

[nightbloom]

I was in their union for a long time.

Fly and NB were on all the time.

They did their 3 hour ticket like the rest of us.

I never once saw either of them bot.

Ever.

No screenshots or videos have EVER come forward of the two. No proof ever presented. No globals were EVER fired off about Fly or Nightbloom currently being watched botting.

*cries* Ryoko... Its been too long. You shouldnt try to defend Fly or I. These wild boys will just start calling your neck next. LOL

[Fuhito]

These wild boys will just start calling your neck next. LOL

Oh please, what's next, if Asy wants to flame all black people will they all get banned too?

Edit: Anyway, my question still remains. Is Fly's word gonna be the reason he is not banned? If so, how is this section not bullshit?

It would seem to me:

Me: *Posts a link to the ban list*
SG: Fly says it not true, no banning.

Fudge's Word: It wasn't Ito playing
SG: Until hardcore evidence is provided she remains banned.

Seriously?

[Fly]

[Posei]

The fact still remains that there is more evidence that Fly DID bot than there is in his favour. JoyMax's list should be more than enough proof against Fly than anyones word of mouth. Unfortunately Ryoko And Sui are on the side of sro's biggest closet botter ever.

*waits for Asy to commence flame-baiting*

[XemnasXD]

ohhh and the discussion has been reduced to clever pictures. Since we're dealing with fly and NB it was only a matter of time b4 they broke out their pic stash but i was expecting NB b4 Fly

OT: Fact fly was banned for botting
Fact this is a war on all bots

conclusion is Fly should be banned.

whats the discussion here we all saw the list it was probably locked and and moved into the mods only section at some point if not its still floating around here what more evidence do you need whats so controversial about this.

Fly. Was. Banned. For. Botting.

Hell no ones even seen Luoma bot either but your going to ban him for posting on another forum Fly was caught by JM. JOY MAX! and banned for it. This is turning into a big a sea of BS all of a sudden now that these accusation are hitting closer and closer to home the Bans are getting slower and slower, now you want to hear stories and second chances and put a statute of limitations. Now its become a Selective War on Bots......

[nightbloom]

Asya is a passionate guy. lol All Turks are. He is the most devoted, fanatical legit player ever. He comes across like a maniac in print. Hes really a nice married guy with a little baby and a family business.

[Ryoko]

These wild boys will just start calling your neck next. LOL

Oh please, what's next, if Asy wants to flame all black people will they all get banned too?

Edit: Anyway, my question still remains. Is Fly's word gonna be the reason he is not banned? If so, how is this section not bullshit?

It would seem to me:

Me: *Posts a link to the ban list*
SG: Fly says it not true, no banning.

Fudge's Word: It wasn't Ito playing
SG: Until hardcore evidence is provided she remains banned.

Seriously?

Are YOU SERIOUS?

That WHOLE TOPIC was hashed over thread over thread over post over post.

Where where you?

So you miss the boat the first time around, come back and post "Hey, look this guy"

Unfortunately Ryoko And Sui are on the side of sro's biggest closet botter ever.

Are you calling me a liar?

[Amelie]

i love you ryoko.

[Fuhito]

These wild boys will just start calling your neck next. LOL

Oh please, what's next, if Asy wants to flame all black people will they all get banned too?

Edit: Anyway, my question still remains. Is Fly's word gonna be the reason he is not banned? If so, how is this section not bullshit?

It would seem to me:

Me: *Posts a link to the ban list*
SG: Fly says it not true, no banning.

Fudge's Word: It wasn't Ito playing
SG: Until hardcore evidence is provided she remains banned.

Seriously?

Are YOU SERIOUS?

That WHOLE TOPIC was hashed over thread over thread over post over post.

Where where you?

So you miss the boat the first time around, come back and post "Hey, look this guy"

Why are you gonna trust one person's word over another is my point.

I've asked SEVERAL times where the proof of Fly's false banning is and all the higher ups will come in and say bullshit about trusting his word not providing evidence. Hell even Fly's evidence was just a post. No video/screen shot/or whatever else you consider proper evidence.

I wasn't commenting on a wrong banning of Ito but your choice of whose word you trust and that your letting friendships decide how you handle specific situations.

And please this would have come up eventually, we all know it and probably would have been an attack and locked as a flame. I do it intelligently and questions are avoided.

[Ryoko]

i love you ryoko.

Getting a lil bit rough in here. Does it turn you on babeh?

*TTTTsssssssss* its hot.

[Twist]

i love you ryoko.

Getting a lil bit rough in here. Does it turn you on babeh?

*TTTTsssssssss* its hot.

What about me?Heartbreaker

[nightbloom]

I can give you LOADS of proof that FLy isnt botting, I have screenshot after screenshot, 13 movies and 2 years of mighty explicit Vent conversations. Want all that?

Ryoko - I read that "ttttsssss" and I can just picture you doing it irl.

off topic - I want the "Girl you left your sweater" pic, can you PM it to me? Its one of the funniest pics Ive ever seen.

[Squirt]

I can give you LOADS of proof that FLy isnt botting, I have screenshot after screenshot, 13 movies and 2 years of mighty explicit Vent conversations. Want all that?

Ryoko - I read that "ttttsssss" and I can just picture you doing it irl.

off topic - I want the "Girl you left your weater" pic, can you PM it to me? Its one of the funniest pics Ive ever seen.

if he does not bot then why do you hesitate to respond .if he is truly 'legit' then stop worrying

[Fuhito]

I can give you LOADS of proof that FLy isnt botting, I have screenshot after screenshot, 13 movies and 2 years of mighty explicit Vent conversations. Want all that?

And you can probably post evidence of a botter grinding legit in your parties and botting later that day.

This is about Fly being banned and rebanned for not being legit and no one having proof of a false banning, but no action being taken here.

[XemnasXD]

i can post vids of Ito doing legit stuff too doesn't mean her character never botted

Official Banlist > creepy net love + any social bonds with the Admins

At least thats the way it should be since we're cleaning house....

[nightbloom]

The fact that the ban happened a year ago alone should be enough for you. Second, he posted the screenshot of the ban saying it is for User Agreement Violation. No argument is good enough for you guys. You want his blood, period, and reason isnt a factor. Neither one of us can prove it one way or the other any better than we have already. Im not hesitant at all.

There is no proof that you will accept so I think arguing with you is stupid.

[Fuhito]

The fact that the ban happened a year ago alone should be enough for you. Second, he posted the screenshot of the ban saying it is for User Agreement Violation. No argument is good enough for you guys. You want his blood, period, and reason isnt a factor. Neither one of us can prove it one way or the other any better than we have already. Im not hesitant at all.

There is no proof that you will accept so I think arguing with you is stupid.

Please read all my posts and point out where I said he was banned for botting. I've been saying he was banned from the game for doing something that isn't legit and botting is not the only grounds for being banned here. Also, Fly wouldn't be the only one banned here for old evidence.

I want this bullshit to stop, I could care less about "Fly's blood". SRA rules ruining a community 'cause Asy wants to instigate a flame war when he's the one throwing the bot accusations around 24/7 on here.

[salmissra]

The fact that the ban happened a year ago alone should be enough for you. Second, he posted the screenshot of the ban saying it is for User Agreement Violation. No argument is good enough for you guys. You want his blood, period, and reason isnt a factor. Neither one of us can prove it one way or the other any better than we have already. Im not hesitant at all.

There is no proof that you will accept so I think arguing with you is stupid.

i agree with you. some ppl dont know when to quit. chill down already ppl.

[XemnasXD]

what bold words.....it cut me to the core

We all know how the banlist works if you got banned for some other reason besides botting you wouldn't be on there, example is Master Wong who was banned for gold trading during the mass bot ban period but wasn't on the list.

Fly was on the Bot Ban List and just because he post a picture saying someone was banned for user agreement doesn't make the fact that he was banned for botting untrue. We don't even know if thats him, I do know he probably has a picture for every situation though he's proven that b4 the list should';ve been all the proof need back then when you guys were crazy about SP name being on the list and demanding his ban as well flamebaiting all over the place but no Fly got away and we got BlackFox....justice.....i think not

[Vindicator]

if banning me will clean srf of its botters, im all for it.

quote speaks for itself

nightbloom, seriously, stop...you wonder why Avalon has such a bad rep? just look at what you guys do, its getting more and more pathetic the way you carry on and moan. Avalon has gone from respectable people fighting for a legit game, to a bunch of crazed little kids with over-sized egos and way too much time to advertise their egos

[non ego man]

I think everyone knows where everyone stands. Now go get some screenies of Fly botting and his ass will get banned. He's on Venus. Very visible. Outside of that, why does everyone keep saying the same goddam thing over and over again?

[AngelMare]

if banning me will clean srf of its botters, im all for it.

u got my respect .

[Squirt]

if banning me will clean srf of its botters, im all for it.

quote speaks for itself

nightbloom, seriously, stop...you wonder why Avalon has such a bad rep? just look at what you guys do, its getting more and more pathetic the way you carry on and moan. Avalon has gone from respectable people fighting for a legit game, to a bunch of crazed little kids with over-sized egos and way too much time to advertise their egos

dont forgt they take too much credit for shizz, wow you disced 3 bots we chaned sro forever!

i find this pathetic defending someone on the web look around this is the only thread that has someone arguing , he got caught the end bloom.
bye bye

[NuclearSilo]

I dont care what Fly have done. If he is banned, there must be a reason. And im here to hear that reason. Fly, tell me, what rule did u violate? CCF, trading gold, selling char? Just tell everyone the truth, the bot accusation will be gone.
I know some users here asked for Pred (who was a GM in isro) for unbanning account and hacked account. Maybe Fly is one of them.

[Fly]

OK, after 1 hour of useing SRF's not so good search system (sry ryoko but search needs work) i found this:

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24377
this guy was banned on december 27 just like me. reason: user agreement violation, just like me. check his post date. why was he banned? he has no clue. since the time / reason is the same as mine, i take it was the monster scrolls. he thinks it ay have something to do with ccf, but everyone knows what a ccf ban looks like.

AND

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23832
he was not the only 1. zz_troy_zz was also banned for the same reason. he was banned 2 days before I was. not only was zz_troy_zz banned for the same reason, HE SHOWED UP ON A BOT LIST!!!!!!!

now im done torturing myself with the search system. if you need more proof (woot i spelled it right) then be my guest and look it up yourself.

[XemnasXD]

he was on the BOT FARKING BAN LIST!

the only reason why you'd be on the Mass Bot Ban list is if you were caught Botting with the masses what part of that is so hard to understand...he was banned for BOTTING! thats the name of the list. Plz don't tell me he's going to use Wongs statement as his defense. Especially when a next post is basically someone calling zz_troy_zz a legendary botter on Xian. What makes wong anymore credible than the other guy, nothing.

Fly you already put yourself up as a martyr, follow through and except your punishment, stop hiding behind your friends at the top....

the mods should release that topic where the banlist was posted it has claims of ppl who were in his guild, friends of fly saying that the only reason he was banned was because they were botting on his account....someone was botting the name belongs to Fly if Ito goes Fly should go too end of story....

EDIT: happy it doesn't change anything though....

[nightbloom]

zz_Troy_zz was from Xian, not Troy.