new skills update...new strongest char.?

BL4cK_mAgiC · Post by **BL4cK_mAgiC** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:48 am

in your guyz opinion what build (chinese chars only) will be the strongest with the new skillz update?
(considering all chars. have npc armor/pro/garms)

with all the new skillz? who will arise as the strongest in your opinion???
leave it here...thx guyz

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:51 am

If the skill go up to 80 then pure str glavies will have a nice advantage with a new level 80 soul spear.

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:51 am

well all the high lvl glaviers in my server are switching to blade becuse the fire shild wont work for glaviers or bowmen when the update comes. so ice will pown....

Well if ever ones going to have a sosun i would have to put my money on the Blader becuse they got the highest d

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:53 am

BlueSnow wrote:well all the high lvl glaviers in my server are switching to blade becuse the fire shild wont work for glaviers or bowmen when the update comes. so ice will pown....

Well if ever ones going to have a sosun i would have to put my money on the Blader becuse they got the highest d

all i have to say is lol 8 post count.

GaS · Post by **GaS** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:54 am

only the update will tell.

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:56 am

and now 9 runing storng

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:59 am

MrFudge wrote:
BlueSnow wrote:well all the high lvl glaviers in my server are switching to blade becuse the fire shild wont work for glaviers or bowmen when the update comes. so ice will pown....

Well if ever ones going to have a sosun i would have to put my money on the Blader becuse they got the highest d

all i have to say is lol 8 post count.

....your post count is not a measure of how intelligent or valuable the information you possess is...if you feel this way your probably using a large post count to over compensate for a lack of something....

that being said i think its quite the clain to say ALL the glaiver in your server are switching to blade...i doubt if half are....i'd even go so far as to doubt if 1/50 of the gliavers are....unless you know all the glaivers on your server personally don't dream of making such a claim....

lastly i'd have to say that a good hybrid spear or even better a S/S will rule thanks to the mana sheild+blocking+good damage.....

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:04 am

ok ill say it a diff way
some of the strongest glaviers are now bladers

But just think of taking on a ice archer without fire shield :shock:

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:05 am

ok someone please confirm that we wont be able to use fire shield if we dont have a shield equipped.

also someone confirm that ice bladers will be able to kill something.

ty

disturbed666 · Post by **disturbed666** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:06 am

BlueSnow wrote:well all the high lvl glaviers in my server are switching to blade becuse the fire shild wont work for glaviers or bowmen when the update comes. so ice will pown....

Well if ever ones going to have a sosun i would have to put my money on the Blader becuse they got the highest d

..and why wont fire shield work??

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:08 am

i heard that with the new update skills that arnt for your weapon (hawk and fire shield) that after u switch to your other weapon the buff will be gone. much like the spining spear thingy.

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:11 am

BlueSnow wrote:ok ill say it a diff way
some of the strongest glaviers are now bladers

But just think of taking on a ice archer without fire shield

i haven't seen an ice archer in ages and while i still don't understand your fire sheild comment i can see where your coming from...except the fire sheild thing...

With the new mana sheild an Ice archer will have access to extra HP, KB, slow down, and high crit attcks....seems pretty deadly....but not unbeatable a blader who just keep KD and stabbing + combos will plow through the mana sheild fairly quickly without taking much damage

disturbed666 · Post by **disturbed666** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:12 am

BlueSnow wrote:i heard that with the new update skills that arnt for your weapon (hawk and fire shield) that after u switch to your other weapon the buff will be gone. much like the spining spear thingy.

thats rediculous. i arm a shield, do fire shield- king, arm my spear, and i still have it as a buff. :roll:

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:14 am

XemnasXD wrote:i haven't seen an ice archer in ages

im a fire archer converting to ice because the ice effect is way too good to pass up on the non-immunes.

im willing to sacrifice 50-100 damage on my skills for that awesome frostbite/freezing effect.

and if you are immune then my attack rating is 100% off the chart so yes my ice imbue skills will sometimes hit harder than my fire imbued skills.

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:14 am

i was just using ice archers as an example but i think the blader will be the best

but then agian with the 90 cap u could put ice resitance on your gear so anything is posible....

but with sro i dont think there will ever be on build that 100% waste (becide pure hibirds)

becuse in pvp it comes down to the gear and the build is just a part of the equashion

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:18 am

disturbed666 wrote:
BlueSnow wrote:i heard that with the new update skills that arnt for your weapon (hawk and fire shield) that after u switch to your other weapon the buff will be gone. much like the spining spear thingy.

thats rediculous. i arm a shield, do fire shield- king, arm my spear, and i still have it as a buff.

umm if u read what i said... it says "with the new update."

XemnasXD · Post by **XemnasXD** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:24 am

MrFudge wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:i haven't seen an ice archer in ages

im a fire archer converting to ice because the ice effect is way too good to pass up on the non-immunes.

im willing to sacrifice 50-100 damage on my skills for that awesome frostbite/freezing effect.

and if you are immune then my attack rating is 100% off the chart so yes my ice imbue skills will sometimes hit harder than my fire imbued skills.

im pretty sure we did a chart on this awhile back but the later lvls the difference in damage is more than 50-100 if i could find the topic i'd show you and the max damage of a fire skill will always be greater than the max damage of an ice skill

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:29 am

ice is good for pvm for ints. but unless sothing changes for pvp most it sucks at high lvls.

Flara · Post by **Flara** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:34 am

I think fire-bow because of the new skills like 5 arrows and strong bow series they can stun and knock back the enemy..

BlueSnow · Post by **BlueSnow** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:37 am

i agree that bows will be good but so are the other people.

I mean the glaviers and the Bladers are all going to get new skills.

but like i said befor its going to come down to the gear.

EsQuiRe · Post by **EsQuiRe** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:41 am

nothing should really change since we are still using crappy lvl 72 weapons (us unlucky ones). Glaivers should hit harder therefore pawn in pvp once more. Nukers will get increased hittin power so they should match well against glaivers. The thing that might change most is teh archer build...but unless we see the new skills in action we cant really determine how effective tehy will be in pvp. Remember archers are great support chars even now, with new skills and possibly change in fire shield tehy may prove to be even more valuable to have around

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:39 am

Yup, finally somebody that agrees with me and also says we just have to wait and see.

Every build is getting something new, me being an archer, I am saying archers will poonage. But I always said that, so that doesnt really mean anything.

Besides that, just wait and see. Maybe nukers will do more damage and have a longer life with stoopid mana. Maybe ice will become a factor again IF they fix fire shield, wich I never saw stated somewhere. Maybe glaviers will suddenly be on the bottom of the food chain.

Who knows, stay tuned for the next episode right after the commercials.

Replenish · Post by **Replenish** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:54 am

Nice Info BlueSnow, I hope that its true! it will be wicked if this new update brings in the return OF TEH ICE BLADER!

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:59 am

GaS wrote:If the skill go up to 80 then pure str glavies will have a nice advantage with a new level 80 soul spear.

That's exactly where you are wrong, pure ints suffer the most from the lack of update in skills. So pureints will have more advantage from this update than pure strs.. Though bow will have be a way better class now.

And to the people that think that ice deals LESS dmg than fire/elec. think again, it's been proven several times that it deals equilevant dmg at the higher lvls.

So imho Ice > Fire/Elec

And with the update Resistance is supposed to be removed..

HertogJan · Post by **HertogJan** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:00 am

Lol the return of the ice blader will make me think of quitting =|

I kinda dislike bladers, a blader my level doesnt come close to half my hp with stupid kd and stab. But I cant kill him either cause I am lying on the ground half the time and the other half of the time he blocks my attacks. And then being cocky and saying he poonages. Feck irritating people

ldn07 · Post by **ldn07** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:05 am

could someone explain what a mana shield is..

DarkJackal · Post by **DarkJackal** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:13 am

I don't think things will change all to much, although I think bows are getting the biggest leap in advantages from nothing to knockback and stun.

Every thing else is just getting more dmg right? :d

I really hope the hawk/fire shield buffs wont work without the right weapons with this update, that would be awesome lol.

As for ice if its not useless anymore i'll probably use my ice again~

Mana shield is a skill that makes a shield around with takes a % of the dmg you take and instead of taking it away form your hp it takes it off your mp.

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:35 am

TwelveEleven wrote:And to the people that think that ice deals LESS dmg than fire/elec. think again, it's been proven several times that it deals equilevant dmg at the higher lvls.

So imho Ice > Fire/Elec

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VforVendetta · Post by **VforVendetta** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:38 am

I think Warrior Sword/Shield will be the most powerful..... nah im only kidding, but they do look hella cool ^^

soxdrop · Post by **soxdrop** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:23 pm

I don' think that glaviers will get their lv 80 skill since we didn't get any lv 70 skill either on the 70 gap

anyway i think hybrids will be the strongest in pvp but pure int will be the most useful during jobs and gws