Doron wrote:It's not like I don't respect them, it's just that people keep bitching and moaning about the total spiritual climax and revelation, but as everything has a few gamerules before or while playing, you no one can actually get to the final stage.
The final stage is overcoming yourself. But people are too selfish to overcome themselves. Therefore, everyone claiming they had their spiritual climax and a true connection with their said God are liars, therefore sinners and are therefore heretics.
Point made? **** yeah.
what exactly do you mean by overcoming yourself lol ?
Yes, though. I do say so. Homophobia is intolerance you moron there is no grey area there. I was addressing the intolerance of the two individuals not directly Islam. However I'm glad I hit a nerve which was my main intentions but it saddens me to see you didn't get the point and jumped the ship completely.
You can defend all you want afterward but you can't blame onlookers for forming an opinion based on the actions of the representatives. Why the common trend of intolerance from Muslims(not just) on this particular subject(although I am half Indian and more then savvy on the subject of Islam then you think)is a subject for another thread. Then again that thread has been done to death in the OTL so if you want to continue defending why your actions but when the tables are turned in a similar fashion your throw a hissyfit go ahead and pm me.
I would make an attempt to bring it back on topic but k/j/pop generally makes my ears bleed so I'll leave it to Doron and Crim.
Yes, though. I do say so. Homophobia is intolerance you moron there is no grey area there. I was addressing the intolerance of the two individuals not directly Islam. However I'm glad I hit a nerve which was my main intentions but it saddens me to see you didn't get the point and jumped the ship completely.
You can defend all you want afterward but you can't blame onlookers for forming an opinion based on the actions of the representatives. Why the common trend of intolerance from Muslims(not just) on this particular subject(although I am half Indian and more then savvy on the subject of Islam then you think)is a subject for another thread. Then again that thread has been done to death in the OTL so if you want to continue defending why your actions but when the tables are turned in a similar fashion your throw a hissyfit go ahead and pm me.
I would make an attempt to bring it back on topic but k/j/pop generally makes my ears bleed so I'll leave it to Doron and Crim.
you sir are a Farking genius!! totally got me ... first of al1, most of what you wrote is a 100% bs made me lol .. second thing is the only intolerance i have is from morons like you and doron.. have nothing to do with Homophobia if u every time feel i offended u cuz your gay go on.. thats your mental problems its quite funny i actually had you on my block list didnt know why i showed your post but meh w/e.. guess ill add doron too will save me from reading bs like that
Doron wrote:It's not like I don't respect them, it's just that people keep bitching and moaning about the total spiritual climax and revelation, but as everything has a few gamerules before or while playing, you no one can actually get to the final stage.
The final stage is overcoming yourself. But people are too selfish to overcome themselves. Therefore, everyone claiming they had their spiritual climax and a true connection with their said God are liars, therefore sinners and are therefore heretics.
Point made? **** yeah.
what exactly do you mean by overcoming yourself lol ?
You know what I mean.
There's this thing with especially Christians.
They claim they'll be in heaven if they are good people. So that kind of states: Lust: You'll be monogamous and only have sex with one person in your life and that's your spouse, only after marriage. =/= overcomming the natural attractions, longings and wants of life. Sloth: Don't be lazy and work hard for everything. =/= overcoming your sleep-in days, naps, and laziness like shoving work off to a colleague. Greed: Don't keep everything to yourself, share what you have. =/= overcoming selfishness in material objects Gluttony: Don't fall for everything and buy/get everything big/shiny/expensive =/= overcoming the need for everything bigger and better then others, creating envy from others. Wrath: Don't be vengeful, don't fight, keep everything peaceful and harmonious. =/= overcoming taunts like jokes, provokes and other stuff like losing your temper in a discussion. Envy: Be happy with what you have and if someone else has something better be happy for them. =/= overcoming self hate for not being as fantastic as the other, for not having something awesome as the other, also overcoming the need to achieve perfection.
And the worst one of all:
Pride: Don't claim you're perfect, go over dead bodies to obtain what you want to have and shit like that to get to the top. =/= overcoming yourself.
BUT: Here's the fun part: People claiming they WILL go to Heaven for not falling for everything mentioned above is already Pride. It's empty Pride, but still Pride, for just simply "knowing" they will go to Heaven because they're good people.
There you have it, you didn't fall for the first 6 so the 7th is the killer. People have to overcome all 7 things before they can get to Heaven, yet, they just stop at 6 and think they're alright. Yet the 7th falls the hardest.
Tu comprende so far?
Then for the Muslims, I dunno about their sins, but if one of them is lust they're already doomed for even wanting to go to their heaven since they want their 72 virgins soooooooo bad.
Dunno about the other but it'll be about the same I think.
Doron wrote:It's not like I don't respect them, it's just that people keep bitching and moaning about the total spiritual climax and revelation, but as everything has a few gamerules before or while playing, you no one can actually get to the final stage.
The final stage is overcoming yourself. But people are too selfish to overcome themselves. Therefore, everyone claiming they had their spiritual climax and a true connection with their said God are liars, therefore sinners and are therefore heretics.
Point made? **** yeah.
what exactly do you mean by overcoming yourself lol ?
You know what I mean.
There's this thing with especially Christians.
They claim they'll be in heaven if they are good people. So that kind of states: Lust: You'll be monogamous and only have sex with one person in your life and that's your spouse, only after marriage. =/= overcomming the natural attractions, longings and wants of life. Sloth: Don't be lazy and work hard for everything. =/= overcoming your sleep-in days, naps, and laziness like shoving work off to a colleague. Greed: Don't keep everything to yourself, share what you have. =/= overcoming selfishness in material objects Gluttony: Don't fall for everything and buy/get everything big/shiny/expensive =/= overcoming the need for everything bigger and better then others, creating envy from others. Wrath: Don't be vengeful, don't fight, keep everything peaceful and harmonious. =/= overcoming taunts like jokes, provokes and other stuff like losing your temper in a discussion. Envy: Be happy with what you have and if someone else has something better be happy for them. =/= overcoming self hate for not being as fantastic as the other, for not having something awesome as the other, also overcoming the need to achieve perfection.
And the worst one of all:
Pride: Don't claim you're perfect, go over dead bodies to obtain what you want to have and shit like that to get to the top. =/= overcoming yourself.
BUT: Here's the fun part: People claiming they WILL go to Heaven for not falling for everything mentioned above is already Pride. It's empty Pride, but still Pride, for just simply "knowing" they will go to Heaven because they're good people.
There you have it, you didn't fall for the first 6 so the 7th is the killer. People have to overcome all 7 things before they can get to Heaven, yet, they just stop at 6 and think they're alright. Yet the 7th falls the hardest.
Tu comprende so far?
Then for the Muslims, I dunno about their sins, but if one of them is lust they're already doomed for even wanting to go to their heaven since they want their 72 virgins soooooooo bad.
Dunno about the other but it'll be about the same I think.
OMG KOREANS.
every comment you post makes me laugh !! 72 virgins it docent exist but meh ... if you think of religion as strict rules to follow sure go on... from what ever you said about Christianity I'm sure there is much more and i think what you mentioned is not bad at all.. i wont try to talk and explain you should go read more about it...
Nehh, my interest goes no further than the 7 sins because they pop up a lot in shows I watch like Charmed, ANTM season something and more. They fascinate me the most about all Christianity.
+ They make amazing concept for stuff like photoshoots, movies and other shit.
what the fuck is this discussion doing in a kpop thread. I dont see any reason why you both (hero and zaknight) decided to instigate/troll this thread, but whatever
magisuns wrote:what the fuck is this discussion doing in a kpop thread. I dont see any reason why you both (hero and zaknight) decided to instigate/troll this thread, but whatever
.. second thing is the only intolerance i have is from morons like you and doron.. have nothing to do with Homophobia if u every time feel i offended u cuz your gay go on.. thats your mental problems its quite funny i actually had you on my block list didnt know why i showed your post but meh w/e.. guess ill add doron too will save me from reading bs like that 
