pure str blader...

[andyiscool]

Sorry if this is discussed, but i looked in the guides section, and only found stuff for the 80cap, or 90cap.

I was wondering what sort of builds are good for pure str bladers?

I am looking currently at 100bicheon/fire/ice. The problem is that i really LIKE the movement buff from lightning, but am not sure as to how useful it is, when compared to fire and lightning.
Is splitting them any good? like 100 fire/bicheon, 70 ice, 30 light?
Or could i afford to drop fire completely in lieu of lightning?
OR... Should i just learn to live with moving slowly, and take bicheon/fire/ice? (not interested in force).

Thanks for any help!

[TheKnight]

Well atleast because you are pure Str you MUST HAVE FIRE, if you go to 100Bicheon/Fire/Cold that is very defensive build, and if you want some speed you could buy some movment speed pots from the grocery store.

[Vinyl]

Tbh, you don't need that much ice. Here's what you should do. Go Fire/Bich 100, Light 80, and 20 ice for the snow shield. Bladers are already defense gods, why would they need to sacrifice speed for more def.

[Sylus]

Tbh, you don't need that much ice. Here's what you should do. Go Fire/Bich 100, Light 80, and 20 ice for the snow shield. Bladers are already defense gods, why would they need to sacrifice speed for more def.

Cause bladers are built tanks, and ice would give them a major advantage.

[AngelDust]

mhhh.. i have the same problem.
i have farmed me a pure str. blader.

i cant decide between this 4 blader builds:
1. bicheon 100 /lightning 100 / fire 100
2. bicheon 100 / fire 100 / force 100
3. bicheon 100 / cold 100 / fire 100
4. bicheon 100 / cold 20 / lightning 80 / fire 100


I like the speed & teleport from lightning.. its very useful in pvp, jobbing.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

mhhh.. i have the same problem.
i have farmed me a pure str. blader.

i cant decide between this 4 blader builds:
1. bicheon 100 /lightning 100 / fire 100
2. bicheon 100 / fire 100 / force 100
3. bicheon 100 / cold 100 / fire 100
4. bicheon 100 / cold 20 / lightning 80 / fire 100


I like the speed & teleport from lightning.. its very useful in pvp, jobbing.

option 1 is kind of, well.. it isnt really good,
you sacrifice 20 ice --> snow shield for a bit more parry,
a few % more speed and 2 meters of ghost walk.
and the magic attack buff doesnt help much since it is a full str char

and thats for about 150k sp more

the other ones all seem better

[AngelDust]

ok, i have seen, the first option (bicheon 100 / lightning 100 / fire 100) is shittyyy...^^

whats about the other 3 builds?

can u hlp pls, cons & pros.

[raphaell666]

2. bicheon 100 / fire 100 / force 100

Can debuff, will do very well at 1vs1 pvping as long as your enemy is not immune (best one among these). Slow speed, no mobility. Not actually useful at group pvping.

3. bicheon 100 / cold 100 / fire 100

Best tanker, will probably do very good at 1vs1 pvping, can use cold imbue which would make you able to easily freeze/frostbite your enemies (unless they are immune), highest defense, slow speed and no mobility, can use snow shield which is a big plus.

4. bicheon 100 / cold 20 / lightning 80 / fire 100

Will do just fine at 1vs1 pvping and at group pvping, high speed/mobility, more solid than the ones above, can use 20% snow shield which is more than enough and is a big plus. This is the best one in overall, the ones above are somewhat more specific for 1vs1.

This is everything I can think of right now.

[Intentions]

2. bicheon 100 / fire 100 / force 100

Can debuff, will do very well at 1vs1 pvping as long as your enemy is not immune (best one among these). Slow speed, no mobility. Not actually useful at group pvping.

i think this one out of the rest is the most useful at group pvping
can tank while heal and res
i guess debuff and cure if really needed
and saying if they are group pvping its for high lvls so they can buy speed pills

[dark_wizz]

why don't u try 100 bich/fire, 60 cold, 40 light... still u have pretty good shield from cold and decent speed... seems to me like good decision... but that's just me

[raphaell666]

i think this one out of the rest is the most useful at group pvping
can tank while heal and res
i guess debuff and cure if really needed
and saying if they are group pvping its for high lvls so they can buy speed pills

I said not actually useful at group pvp, because their euro counter parts do these jobs WAY better than the chinese, so the force users are not actually needed, but yes, they would help if there was no cleric euro in the party (very very unlikely, unless it's a small fight). Also, debuffing will be useless, because of the euro holy word/spell buff and I'd say it's impossible to not have at least a sub euro character in the whole enemy party, which would be able to buff everyone.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

why don't u try 100 bich/fire, 60 cold, 40 light... still u have pretty good shield from cold and decent speed... seems to me like good decision... but that's just me

The 60 cold would get you a total of
- 84 phys defence with the buff and passive
- 40% snow shield

compared to 20 ice with the 80 light/20 ice build:
- 10 phys defence with the buff and passive
- 20% snow

the 40 light would get you:
- +10% magical damage with magical buff
- +21 parry (41 if you choose the parry buff)
- 12m ghost walk
- +47% speed

compared to 80 light of the light 80/ice 20 build
- +17% magical damage with magical buff
- +31 parry (62 if you choose the parry buff)
- 22m ghost walk
- +73% speed

would cost 31k instead of 96k sp
i dunno, the 80/20 version seems more appealing since it has more damage and speed to offer

[raphaell666]

@Pan_Raider(`_´)
Perfect reply, but one minor thing I'd like to... complete :

i dunno, the 80/20 version seems more appealing since it has more damage and speed to offer

I agree the 80/20 version is more appealing, but it's only because of the speed and the ghost walk. It really doesn't offer more damage, as we're talking about a pure STR build, and it's magical damage is almost negligible. And I don't really see a point in 60 cold over 20, except maybe for the extra physical defense, but 60 cold was good for 90 cap, and we're talking about 100 cap, and I doubt it'd be nearly as effective (in fact, 100 cold gives pretty much 430% the defense that 60 cold gives, lol). So, if you want extra physical defense, go for cold all the way, and choose 100fire/100cold. If you don't want that, I'd prefer 80light/20cold for the speed/mobility any time.

[Bobby]

@Pan_Raider(`_´)
Perfect reply, but one minor thing I'd like to... complete :

i dunno, the 80/20 version seems more appealing since it has more damage and speed to offer

I agree the 80/20 version is more appealing, but it's only because of the speed and the ghost walk. It really doesn't offer more damage, as we're talking about a pure STR build, and it's magical damage is almost negligible. And I don't really see a point in 60 cold over 20, except maybe for the extra physical defense, but 60 cold was good for 90 cap, and we're talking about 100 cap, and I doubt it'd be nearly as effective (in fact, 100 cold gives pretty much 430% the defense that 60 cold gives, lol). So, if you want extra physical defense, go for cold all the way, and choose 100fire/100cold. If you don't want that, I'd prefer 80light/20cold for the speed/mobility any time.

Yea, the light/cold split IMO isn't worth it for full str's unless it's 80/20. Even int's only benefit from the snow shield, without maxing cold, the physical defence dosen't mean much.

[Pan_Raider(`_´)]

its true, the magic buff is somwhat subpar for full str

[Sylus]

Cold/Force/Bich can be fun (in a ill manner)

[raphaell666]

Cold/Force/Bich can be fun (in a ill manner)

Just not as a STR Build.

[nemesyz]

wad abt this u get both cold n light
100 bich fire 68 ice and 32 light
its kind of new n uncommon

[poptartz]

Cold/Force/Bich can be fun (in a ill manner)

Just not as a STR Build.

has anyone really tried this build? I'm thinking of going for it. If anyone has please give feedback.

[Rozelady]

why don't u try 100 bich/fire, 60 cold, 40 light... still u have pretty good shield from cold and decent speed... seems to me like good decision... but that's just me

The 60 cold would get you a total of
- 84 phys defence with the buff and passive
- 40% snow shield

compared to 20 ice with the 80 light/20 ice build:
- 10 phys defence with the buff and passive
- 20% snow

the 40 light would get you:
- +10% magical damage with magical buff
- +21 parry (41 if you choose the parry buff)
- 12m ghost walk
- +47% speed

compared to 80 light of the light 80/ice 20 build
- +17% magical damage with magical buff
- +31 parry (62 if you choose the parry buff)
- 22m ghost walk
- +73% speed

would cost 31k instead of 96k sp
i dunno, the 80/20 version seems more appealing since it has more damage and speed to offer

I tought the same when i was trying to pick a build for my blader...
But i figured that i could allways try, and if it failed, Cursed hearts are WIN.

But, now im lvl 100 ff 100/100/60/40, i wouldnt take anything different.
Point is, the 84 extra defense makes a big difference when fighting str based chars, EU or CH.
and to be honest, ive been PVPing the so called "pvp-gods" war/clers alot lately, and they got a damn hard time taking me down, and they even say its because of my extra cold.
they could only kill me with 3/4 consecutive crits. (meaning DD+ turn rising+ that other skill) and thats without me having a devil spirit.

on the otherhand, the speed.. quite a difference alltough i dont notice it in PVP, cuz when i get KB'ed, the 13m of ghostwalk is enough to get in their faces again.

EDIT: Oh, and forgot, i got 20% snowshield, but i dont even use that against them (or hardly any other build.

[VeniVidiVici]

Cold/Force/Bich can be fun (in a ill manner)

Just not as a STR Build.

has anyone really tried this build? I'm thinking of going for it. If anyone has please give feedback.

Don't, just don't.