Question about Venus

[NuclearSilo]

So by all of this, you are stating that SuicideGirl is also a stupid, brain-washed moron? I mean, since he not only ENFORCES the rules on Venus, but also helped implement them. He is the leader of BHA, the other large legit union, and 1/4 unions that are part of the Confederation. It is entertaining that there are no posts regarding how corrupt BHA must be, since they follow the same rules as Avalon.

Rule are made by human, human are are not perfect, so there will be eventually a hole in the rule. I didn't call anyone stupid/brain-washed. What i'm targeting is the rule, can't your read? Or are you the one who is brain-washed by Avalon's control?

[Zero_Doom]

I am curious to know, if the mods were to look at your IP, would it go back to someone that was banned recently? People have said you are Kari, but I have half a mind to believe that you are actually D2A... Either way, I don't see how you aren't banned for a recreated account.

Its not D2A. D2A has a brain.

D2A just recently lost control over the Confederation forums, why wouldn't he retaliate shortly there after by trying to take down the Confederation itself? Whether or not it is D2A, it is clearly a recreated account that is trying his absolute hardest to do something that so many "legits" on here would like to see happen. Good for him, I am glad to see that he has a passion for something that doesn't matter. Good for him.

[RogueKiller]

I am curious to know, if the mods were to look at your IP, would it go back to someone that was banned recently? People have said you are Kari, but I have half a mind to believe that you are actually D2A... Either way, I don't see how you aren't banned for a recreated account.

Its not D2A. D2A has a brain.

D2A just recently lost control over the Confederation forums, why wouldn't he retaliate shortly there after by trying to take down the Confederation itself? Whether or not it is D2A, it is clearly a recreated account that is trying his absolute hardest to do something that so many "legits" on here would like to see happen. Good for him, I am glad to see that he has a passion for something that doesn't matter. Good for him.

He did retaliate. He proved for once with solid proof that nightbloom used to bot. Even with all of her denial for the past years.
D2A I am sure has an account here. But I am sure that's not him just because of the writing style and the way he proves ideas.
Avalonian just quotes people to help him without any of his own ideas.

[Phaidra]

It's fine I'm not bitter about it, I'm the one who chose to stay guildless so It's to be expected. I play Venus to escape my server because everyone is always AFK, Venus is fun and I for one am glad for what's been created.

I think it should be locked, It's only going to end in flames.

[Zero_Doom]

So by all of this, you are stating that SuicideGirl is also a stupid, brain-washed moron? I mean, since he not only ENFORCES the rules on Venus, but also helped implement them. He is the leader of BHA, the other large legit union, and 1/4 unions that are part of the Confederation. It is entertaining that there are no posts regarding how corrupt BHA must be, since they follow the same rules as Avalon.

Rule are made by human, human are are not perfect, so there will be eventually a hole in the rule. I didn't call anyone stupid/brain-washed. What i'm targeting is the rule, can't your read? Or are you the one who is brain-washed by Avalon's control?

Again, I am not under control of Avalon. We are ruled by a set of rules, set down by people of several unions. We voted on said rules, and enforce said rules. People that have a problem with the rules, don't need to follow them, and those that choose to follow the rules, have a better existence on the server.

Although you would like Avalon to be the controlling party in all this, it clearly is not. "tedo", the one who posted the rules, is actually a prominent BHA member. He was selected because he does not favor one group over the other, and thus has a very just opinion.

As for the rule itself, you find it unfair. Why do you care so much about it? You said yourself that you favor friends on your own server over the Venus server. You said that you only log in occasionally for testing. So why do you care? Why does it matter what rules a group of people have decided to live by?

[Zero_Doom]

It's fine I'm not bitter about it, I'm the one who chose to stay guildless so It's to be expected. I play Venus to escape my server because everyone is always AFK, Venus is fun and I for one am glad for what's been created.

I think it should be locked, It's only going to end in flames.

That didn't really answer my question. You state that you have a problem, and as one of the loudest people on Venus, and a part of Avalon, I can help put a stop to their "unfair" pking. If you are indeed legit, then there should be no reason for you to fear anything on Venus. Right?

[Zero_Doom]

omgz u peeps are funny hahahaha.

nowhere to go. nuclearilo just nail u all to the point. yall have no democracy at all. one by one u nubs unlegit will go down.

@ zerodoom u made my day. act of desbaration. everyone who said about avalon things is true. i new one day it will come out in open

Learn to spell.

[Phaidra]

I'd rather keep my ingame and forum name seperate, if you want to believe there's some big reason behind that go ahead. But i do thankyou for offering to help, It's really not that big of a problem. I have more fun in Venus than any other server I play and I'm still low level.

[Fly]

So by all of this, you are stating that SuicideGirl is also a stupid, brain-washed moron? I mean, since he not only ENFORCES the rules on Venus, but also helped implement them. He is the leader of BHA, the other large legit union, and 1/4 unions that are part of the Confederation. It is entertaining that there are no posts regarding how corrupt BHA must be, since they follow the same rules as Avalon.

Rule are made by human, human are are not perfect, so there will be eventually a hole in the rule. I didn't call anyone stupid/brain-washed. What i'm targeting is the rule, can't your read? Or are you the one who is brain-washed by Avalon's control?

u got d2a's cock shoved so far up ur mouth its not the confed rules ur reading. its his pubic hairs.

as for the confed, its 1/4th avalon now and as it grows bigger and bigger, it becomes less and less under avalon control. if playing legit and following the rules means ur "brain-washed" then i pity anyone whos not "brain-washed".

[/Pi]

Servers Who Uphold The Confederation:

Venus

Servers Free From The Confederation:

Xian
Aege
Troy
Babel
Athens
Oasis
Venice
Greece
Alps
Olympus
Tibet
Red Sea
Rome
Sparta
Eldorado
Pacific
Alexander
Persia
Zeus
Poseidon
Hercules
Odin
Mercury
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
Pluto
Neptune
Hera
Gais
Eos
Phoenix

If you don't like the Confederation's rules, you have ALL the freedom in the world to move into any of the 30+ servers. Exercise your free will. No one is stopping you. If you can't do that. No one can help you.

[Axie]

ok i would like to see the your alternative for the rules silo
since you are targetting rules of confederation ,which was stated a million times, ARE NOT MADE BY FLY AND NIGHTBLOOM.

[NuclearSilo]

Again, I am not under control of Avalon. We are ruled by a set of rules, set down by people of several unions. We voted on said rules, and enforce said rules. People that have a problem with the rules, don't need to follow them, and those that choose to follow the rules, have a better existence on the server.

Although you would like Avalon to be the controlling party in all this, it clearly is not. "tedo", the one who posted the rules, is actually a prominent BHA member. He was selected because he does not favor one group over the other, and thus has a very just opinion.

As for the rule itself, you find it unfair. Why do you care so much about it? You said yourself that you favor friends on your own server over the Venus server. You said that you only log in occasionally for testing. So why do you care? Why does it matter what rules a group of people have decided to live by?

lol
"Vote", "selected"... Is this game a kind of country or what? Are you voting for the president or what? But hey, a guild has total 50 members, did you really ask all 50 of them or what? Or just some high lvl representant of the guild, and the noobs lvl 20-40 you ignore? Or you blackmailed them "if you're not agreed with my decision i'll blacklist you".
And stop asking question "Why" too much. Just know that there're a lot of ppl in this world want to mess into other ppl's business.

That didn't really answer my question. You state that you have a problem, and as one of the loudest people on Venus, and a part of Avalon, I can help put a stop to their "unfair" pking. If you are indeed legit, then there should be no reason for you to fear anything on Venus. Right?

Didn't the rule state that whoever is guildless would be pked and considered bot? So he got the reason to worry to be pked.

[XemnasXD]

you ppl are the very limit...



*SUGGESTION*

that this be moved to the venus section as it is clearly and specifically about Venus and not about SRO in general.

[Zero_Doom]

Again, I am not under control of Avalon. We are ruled by a set of rules, set down by people of several unions. We voted on said rules, and enforce said rules. People that have a problem with the rules, don't need to follow them, and those that choose to follow the rules, have a better existence on the server.

Although you would like Avalon to be the controlling party in all this, it clearly is not. "tedo", the one who posted the rules, is actually a prominent BHA member. He was selected because he does not favor one group over the other, and thus has a very just opinion.

As for the rule itself, you find it unfair. Why do you care so much about it? You said yourself that you favor friends on your own server over the Venus server. You said that you only log in occasionally for testing. So why do you care? Why does it matter what rules a group of people have decided to live by?

lol
"Vote", "selected"... Is this game a kind of country or what? Are you voting for the president or what? But hey, a guild has total 50 members, did you really ask all 50 of them or what? Or just some high lvl representant of the guild, and the noobs lvl 20-40 you ignore? Or you blackmailed them "if you're not agreed with my decision i'll blacklist you".
And stop asking question "Why" too much. Just know that there're a lot of ppl in this world want to mess into other ppl's business.

Obviously you are one of them, since this really isn't your business... You say that you are into the game for fun, ever think that all those people that agreed to those rules, think that the game is fun by those rules? I mean... it is just a game, and we are all here for fun, right?

That didn't really answer my question. You state that you have a problem, and as one of the loudest people on Venus, and a part of Avalon, I can help put a stop to their "unfair" pking. If you are indeed legit, then there should be no reason for you to fear anything on Venus. Right?

Didn't the rule state that whoever is guildless would be pked and considered bot? So he got the reason to worry to be pked.

Show me where it says that?

[Axie]

you ppl are the very limit...



*SUGGESTION*

that this be moved to the venus section as it is clearly and specifically about Venus and not about SRO in general.

i dont think it should be moved to venus section because clearly people in GD have ran out of things to talk about and 5 mins later there will be a similar topic created
so lets just keep one topic where everyone can express their "feelings" towards venus, confederation and most importantly Fly and Nightbloom and get it of their chests once and for all

[Snoopy]

Servers which everyone guildless is considered a bot:

Venus

Servers which you don't get PKed for not being in a Guild:

Xian
Aege
Troy
Babel
Athens
Oasis
Venice
Greece
Alps
Olympus
Tibet
Red Sea
Rome
Sparta
Eldorado
Pacific
Alexander
Persia
Zeus
Poseidon
Hercules
Odin
Mercury
Mars
Saturn
Uranus
Pluto
Neptune
Hera
Gais
Eos
Phoenix

If you don't like the Confederation's rules, you have ALL the freedom in the world to move into any of the 30+ servers. Exercise your free will. No one is stopping you. If you can't do that. No one can help you.

[Phaidra]

I was actually hoping for a discussion I'm not flaming anyone, but this should be locked It's going nowhere.

[NuclearSilo]

Obviously you are one of them, since this really isn't your business... You say that you are into the game for fun, ever think that all those people that agreed to those rules, think that the game is fun by those rules? I mean... it is just a game, and we are all here for fun, right?

I didn't see anything fun if someone is forbidden to buffs, party with their friends (if they are bot), being called bot if they are lvl 40+ don't join the confederation guild or guildless.

Show me where it says that?

You're pity. You are from the confederation but you didn't keep the rule in mind. The rule said: whoever is lvl 40+ and is not in confederation guild (=> imply guildless and whoever just created a new guild) is being called bot and pked.

You don't play on Venus ! So please go back to your bot server !

If you don't like it ! Why discuss it ? You even don't play on Venus !

Ok, i just created a noob char lvl 1 in Venus. Am I a member of Venus server now?

[Tasdik]

Edit: oh, someone pmed me said that he got blacklisted because he didn't agree with the rule. Is that you call "vote" or "member's opinion"?

I'm the one who got blacklisted. I was in a free ong plvl from someone who was apparently a bot and a guild member saw me and reported me. Simple as that. I knew it was against the rules to be in a bot plvl didn't know it was against the rules to be in a free one. It is. So I got blacklisted which I deserved. I just re-rolled not a big deal.

Don't try to use me in your argument against the confed Nuclear.

[/Pi]

On behalf of Avalon Union, we would like to thank NuclearSilo, Avalonian, and the countless other participants in this thread for giving us another show here on SRF! The attention you give us is greatly appreciated. Our popularity grows more with these excellent topics, and we hope there will be more to come!

We love you too!

Here's a cookie:

[NuclearSilo]

I'm talking that the http://www.igamelegit.com is not his business ! Its our stuff ! Don't like !? Why bother ?

I'm a member of venus now. Later when i reach lvl 40+ and guildless. I don't want to be called bot or pked.
Got a problem with that?

[Kyau]

I'm talking that the http://www.igamelegit.com is not his business ! Its our stuff ! Don't like !? Why bother ?

I'm a member of venus now. Later when i reach lvl 40+ and guildless. I don't want to be called bot or pked.
Got a problem with that?

Why play on Venus then ?

Don't like it , then don't play ! Easy

[Interpol]

From a neutral vantage point, the rules of the confederation do appear to be very stringent. However, it is a necessity, especially when you take into account the effort required to maintain and monitor such a large legit community. It might not be ideal, but it is manageable. Plus, within the restriction new possibilities open up.

I don't think it should be a problem for non venusians to discuss the rules of the confederation. Why shouldn't they? Maybe with discussion it could either promote, or adapt a new set of rules other servers could apply to.

[PureStr]

i think i shall remind you all that:

1) There are no rules that obligates players on venus to join the confederation.
2 )There are no rules that forbids a confederated player from leaving the confederation.

[Snoopy]

I'm talking that the http://www.igamelegit.com is not his business ! Its our stuff ! Don't like !? Why bother ?

I'm a member of venus now. Later when i reach lvl 40+ and guildless. I don't want to be called bot or pked.
Got a problem with that?

Why play on Venus then ?

Don't like it , then don't play ! Easy

You should not get murdered for the sheer fact you're guildless.

[Axie]

Maybe with discussion it could either promote, or adapt a new set of rules other servers could apply to.

good point, im still waiting for Nuclear to post his alternative to the rules but it doesnt seem happening.

You should not get murdered for the sheer fact you're guildless.

wow where did you people get this from? we do not run around killing every guildless 40+ that just makes no sense and the reason that guildless lvl 40+ players are considered bots because 99% of them actually are and being a guildless 40+ is not fun on any server ive been through its just boring as hell

[Kyau]

@Snoopy

Why you think we will do that ? lol

Do you murder all guild less on sight ??

[deathtoall]

I am part of the confed, and its rules are somewhat eh, but w/e I abide by them, and Venus is a great server. The confed isnt run by avalon. Hell the high lvls arent even on 90% of the time. But the fcked up thing is that i had a friend who didnt want to be apart of the confederation and lvled to 81. now his guild members and he are considered illegit because of the 50+ rule, which is retarded.

D2A didnt lose control, he retained it. Fly, you used to be the one sucking his nuts for the past year. Dont come in here now acting all mr big shit. anyways have fun with your thread.

[Zero_Doom]

Obviously you are one of them, since this really isn't your business... You say that you are into the game for fun, ever think that all those people that agreed to those rules, think that the game is fun by those rules? I mean... it is just a game, and we are all here for fun, right?

I didn't see anything fun if someone is forbidden to buffs, party with their friends (if they are bot), being called bot if they are lvl 40+ don't join the confederation guild or guildless.

From your opinion, the server and its rules are not fun. Fun is a point of view, and fortunately for the sanity of everyone on Venus, it is not your point of view. So lucky us, we only have to deal with your shit on this forum. xP

Show me where it says that?

You're pity. You are from the confederation but you didn't keep the rule in mind. The rule said: whoever is lvl 40+ and is not in confederation guild (=> imply guildless and whoever just created a new guild) is being called bot and pked.

I see nowhere that it states that anyone will be pked?

[Necrobat]

I've read enough of this topic to get the gist...

In this topic, we have people who have no idea n how things are actually run, comment on things they don't agree with for whatever reason and slap on some personal grudges to whatever.

Do yourselves a favour and shut the **** up.