Steping over a line

[Phaidra]

Avalonian, you remind me of one of those epic turds you just can't flush.

[simi]

Who the hell is this Avalonian guy?

[SoAyame]

@Avalonian

Yo u still upset bout the whole 2 years ago thing. Aren't u going to the new server relax man its their problem menz. You realize if ya pheonix is a success it will have Drama like Venus?
Hmmmm

I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.

I seriously had to "lol" at this. Not cause the fact that when Kari logs in, it auto-redirects him to the RickRoll, but more that you have to resort to this to make people shut up so you can have your way. Look at it unbiased; not as a member of Avalon, BHA, none of the above, or even a member of Venus. All you're doing is trying to silence your critics. Drama whoring? So... you should do that to yourself then, yes? (don't forget, you were the ones to call BHA bot supporters, inert-jello-legits, etc etc). And now you have the gall to call out Foudre here and say if you don't like it then quit as a senator? Don't bother replying, I've already set you to foe and hopefully you'll be banned soon.

Please do the same to my account you cunt.

Arent you the one leaving Venus to go to Phoenix? whats up with you starting flames about venus everywhere?

+1

@Fourde

I understand menz we talked yesterday at sama not bout this. No reason to be mad i mean honestly is it really that big of a deal?

I WILL keep drama whoring off the Confederation. If you dont like it Foudre, I suggest you resign as a Senator and stick to SRF.

Dont u think thats a "bit" harsh? I means hes a great GM and helpful to the community.

[tedo]

THAT I WROTE AND HAVE UPHELD FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR to me

so do us all a favor, shut the **** up, and realize that no matter where you host something as big as the confederation you will get someone who isn't happy and think you are being biased

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

and you know what, how you can put, "more harm to the confederation" and "tedo" in the same sentence is beyond me, really it is

first all im going to have to ask you to calm yourself down, ease on the cap lock, and take a chill pill. where's the professionalism? it only goes to prove my point.

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

on vbulletin, administrators have an "Edit Polls" button where they can edit the vote count go download a copy of vbulletin off of torrent and see for yourself or go to the vbulletin.com site and ask them. here are their contact info:

Email sales@vbulletin.com 24 hours a day / 7 days a week
Sales Form 24 hours a day / 7 days a week
1-877-326-6444

call them email them. if u want ill be happy to make a video and demonstrate. not only are u unprofessional and have an attitude problem when i request for a vote to show the democracy, you are also ignorant of the world. and we all know fly is going to edit and rig the poll. jeez tedo. get your facts straight before u start running your mouth.

see the problem with rigging the votes is; hmm i dunno, only 12 ppl can vote, and hmm each of them usually post what they voted and why... and hmm oh i dunno, maybe someone would notice that 12 votes aren't what they should be?

also, please don't talk to me about professionalism, i have a right to be pissed the fck off right now, and maybe that is comming across in my post, but i don't think i have exemplified anything other than professionalism in my entire history of moderating the dungeon forums, if you can even require professionalism to moderate a game forum that is

in either case, my caps to your bold; so i can just as easily tell you to take a chillpill, i find it easier to hit caps which is next to the A key than to use my mouse to highlight and click bold or to type out the bold tag and corresponding closing tag

and quite frankly you can't blame me for being peeved because i'm being told that i have done more harm than good to something i have worked on for the better part of a year

in any case, i'm done; i'm tired of keeping everyone happy; and i don't even know why you care, you're leaving the server, so why make all this last minute drama?

but just
let me ask you this: what if i hosted it on my private server?
wouldn't be any different, you'd come and say i was biased
if its hosted on srf? no different, all the avalon people will come and say its biased

[Avalonian]

chances are at least a few people arent going to be around to vote or simply dont care, rarely all people vote. see what i mean?

also, please don't talk to me about professionalism, i have a right to be pissed the fck off right now, and maybe that is comming across in my post,

why are u pissed off? what happened to u? why cant we have a civilized convo without u sligging names and cussing? valid concerns were brought up by COnfederation members their accounts were rigged to prevent their voices from being heard. that is a serious threat to the confederation. we cant sit here and ignore it.

and i don't even know why you care, you're leaving the server, so why make all this last minute drama?

because it's the right thing to do

but just
let me ask you this: what if i hosted it on my private server?
wouldn't be any different, you'd come and say i was biased
if its hosted on srf? no different, all the avalon people will come and say its biased

no i wont. go host it on your server then. no one would have any complaint, as long as fly isnt an admin of the forum.

when was the last time u heard someone's account on SRF was rigged? never. anyways im done here.

[Karras]

@foudre
One of the ppl that i categorized in "Stupid" category.
Not that you are stupid but only that every single thread you started, altho with well intention, u leave yourself unprotected and u got flamed n screwed insideout.
For once, I think you have made a good thread. Best thread EVER.
I am with you, I do not like KARI. I hate him to da bone, but I agree with what you said.
What NB/Fly did is/was wrong.

@Guardia
Time to wake up my man. I would say you are the single most loyal member of Avalon towards NB&Fly. Are you aware that you are being mistreated? Wake up BRO!
Its not worth it.

@Goob
POST OF THE YEAR~!
Never thought that would came out of Goob, well done.. well done...

NB/Fly, there are too many things behind u 2 that not even the best of your friends know.
Y is that? Cuz its simply too filthy to show.

[XemnasXD]

Its always a shame to see someone's well thought out and well executed point and agenda(Goob) get brought down by someone elses ill-thought out and poorly executed support of the same agenda(Avalablahblah) thereby belittling the good efforts made by the first party.

Ignoring the latter's nonsense Goob made a very good point with regards to the original topic of this thread. In most cases an abuse of moderation power, especially one used to censor the opinions or thoughts of someone in what is supposed to be a democracy, would result in swift punishment upon the party responsible for the injustices. However, as im sure everyone and their uncle has figured out by now, such actions will not taken, nor shall warnings be given or wrist be slapped.

I don't particularly enjoy watching the "Fly&Nightbloom Show", aka the Confed, but i always get a rise out of watching how all the members of the audience, aka Venusians, seem to revolve and roll around anything they do that would normally come off as a mark of bad character or otherwise untrustworthy behavior on anyone else...you ppl are so far and fast in orbit you don't realize how far up their a**holes you've gotten sometimes...incidents like this should normally ground you but instead you rush to their defense as if they were Atlas holding up your world, its disgusting.



i don't count you among those that disgust me Tedo and perhaps i should post this in your going away thread. You are simply caught in the middle-way and i choose to reside there on many issues myself but as you seem to have slowly learned, in the face of the radical left and the radical right....the middle way is ineffective.

[foudre]

@foudre
One of the ppl that i categorized in "Stupid" category.
Not that you are stupid but only that every single thread you started, altho with well intention, u leave yourself unprotected and u got flamed n screwed insideout.
For once, I think you have made a good thread. Best thread EVER.
I am with you, I do not like KARI. I hate him to da bone, but I agree with what you said.
What NB/Fly did is/was wrong.

@Guardia
Time to wake up my man. I would say you are the single most loyal member of Avalon towards NB&Fly. Are you aware that you are being mistreated? Wake up BRO!
Its not worth it.

@Goob
POST OF THE YEAR~!
Never thought that would came out of Goob, well done.. well done...

NB/Fly, there are too many things behind u 2 that not even the best of your friends know.
Y is that? Cuz its simply too filthy to show.

you assume I care much if people want to flame me, sure i could sit quietly with my hands behind my back, but I'm not that kind of person, if they are too stupid to see the obvious and want to flame me then its their loss

[t0rch]

Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?

Because the people in question can't manipulate his account here. Oh, and foud; I'm coming back menz okie.

And you guys can't/won't here? Gee whizz, you do it enough to avalonian posts.


Edit:

now ok, his account has been farked up, i personally agree with a kuntdouchebag like kari getting banned from posting, he is nothing but trouble, but i cannot deny that he is legit

Negative, he was pk2 invis hacking the other day, and he was in a auto party with bots, fighting legits. By confed standards that isn't legit

I propose that it's in the best interest of the survival of the Confederation that and to everyone here we hold a vote here on SRF to officially move the Confederation to SRF. The actions of Fly/Nightbloom has done more harm to the COnfederation, and so is the judgment of Tedo. their ownership of the confederation and their attempts to subdue people to their rights without due process is getting sickening, including but not limited to rigging people's account because fly/nightbloom dont like them with the blessing of Tedo. Therefore I file for a motion to hold a vote here (not in the COnfederation where they can edit the polls and rig an election by inflating the vote count)

Leave, go to phoenix where all the bots from other servers are going to 'go' to get a 'fresh start', gl with that.

[Fly]

THAT I WROTE AND HAVE UPHELD FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR to me

so do us all a favor, shut the **** up, and realize that no matter where you host something as big as the confederation you will get someone who isn't happy and think you are being biased

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

and you know what, how you can put, "more harm to the confederation" and "tedo" in the same sentence is beyond me, really it is

first all im going to have to ask you to calm yourself down, ease on the cap lock, and take a chill pill. where's the professionalism? it only goes to prove my point.

and as for rigging the polls, i would love for you to elaborate HOW that is possible, honestly how? lol?

on vbulletin, administrators have an "Edit Polls" button where they can edit the vote count go download a copy of vbulletin off of torrent and see for yourself or go to the vbulletin.com site and ask them. here are their contact info:

Email sales@vbulletin.com 24 hours a day / 7 days a week
Sales Form 24 hours a day / 7 days a week
1-877-326-6444

call them email them. if u want ill be happy to make a video and demonstrate. not only are u unprofessional and have an attitude problem when i request for a vote to show the democracy, you are also ignorant of the world. and we all know fly is going to edit and rig the poll. jeez tedo. get your facts straight before u start running your mouth.

see the problem with rigging the votes is; hmm i dunno, only 12 ppl can vote, and hmm each of them usually post what they voted and why... and hmm oh i dunno, maybe someone would notice that 12 votes aren't what they should be?

also, please don't talk to me about professionalism, i have a right to be pissed the fck off right now, and maybe that is comming across in my post, but i don't think i have exemplified anything other than professionalism in my entire history of moderating the dungeon forums, if you can even require professionalism to moderate a game forum that is

in either case, my caps to your bold; so i can just as easily tell you to take a chillpill, i find it easier to hit caps which is next to the A key than to use my mouse to highlight and click bold or to type out the bold tag and corresponding closing tag

and quite frankly you can't blame me for being peeved because i'm being told that i have done more harm than good to something i have worked on for the better part of a year

in any case, i'm done; i'm tired of keeping everyone happy; and i don't even know why you care, you're leaving the server, so why make all this last minute drama?

but just
let me ask you this: what if i hosted it on my private server?
wouldn't be any different, you'd come and say i was biased
if its hosted on srf? no different, all the avalon people will come and say its biased

tedo why are you even responding to Avalonian aka Kari? he is just pissed he cant start drama on the confed so he is doing it here. this is exactly the reason we have him banned there. and this is exactly why we will fight to keep him banned there.

[Velocity]

Im not going to lie,venus is fcked up

[Barotix]

Well, what are u trying to achieve by posting it here? We have our own forum to discuss about it dont we?

Because the people in question can't manipulate his account here. Oh, and foud; I'm coming back menz okie.

And you guys can't/won't here? Gee whizz, you do it enough to avalonian posts.

I loled. None of Avalonians post have been moved. A quick search in Xfiles proves that. The only post that are moved here are things like:

"B0tters rulez legits suck my nutzzzzzzzz!" ,"[capslock]YOU FCKING NOOB Farking BOTTER **** YOUR COUCH!"[/CAPSLOCK]", or the mudkipz picture spamming [i.e.] "[rinze]So I heard you like mudkipz[/repeat]"; I'm sure in all your awesomeness you will let people flame legits for no reason, you'll let people accuse each other of botting without evidence, of course; you would let people spam too.

Where is SRF's miserable list? Nonexistent.
Who's account has SRF Rigged? Oh, what a surprise: No-one's.
How many polls can SRF manipulate? None.

We have something called principles here. I heard they're selling some on ebay.

[t0rch]

I loled. None of Avalonians post have been moved. A quick search in Xfiles proves that. The only post that are moved here are things like:

"B0tters rulez legits suck my nutzzzzzzzz!" ,"[capslock]YOU FCKING NOOB Farking BOTTER **** YOUR COUCH!"[/CAPSLOCK]", or the mudkipz picture spamming [i.e.] "[rinze]So I heard you like mudkipz[/repeat]"; I'm sure in all your awesomeness you will let people flame legits for no reason, you'll let people accuse each other of botting without evidence, of course; you would let people spam too.

Where is SRF's miserable list? Nonexistent.
Who's account has SRF Rigged? Oh, what a surprise: No-one's.
How many polls can SRF manipulate? None.

We have something called principles here. I heard they're selling some on ebay.

If you own the forum you should be able to do whatever you want with it.

I've seen threads that flame Avalon go on for 10+ pages without a mod stepping in. Then i've seen threads talking about BHA in a non-praise way so-to-speak, and it's instalocked. The flame avalon threads go on without a mod stepping in and dishing out warnings or closing/locking/deleting the topic. Then i've seen threads like the infamous Asyamura-Vandango Ban thread, which yeah Asy disrespected Vandango, but Vandango had it coming imo.

[Zanam]

Don't think the confed needs a hot head right now.

maybe thats the reason.

But dont take my word for it, im just analyzing.

[Zanam]

I propose that it's in the best interest of the survival of the Confederation that and to everyone here we hold a vote here on SRF to officially move the Confederation to SRF. The actions of Fly/Nightbloom has done more harm to the COnfederation, and so is the judgment of Tedo. their ownership of the confederation and their attempts to subdue people to their rights without due process is getting sickening, including but not limited to rigging people's account because fly/nightbloom dont like them with the blessing of Tedo. Therefore I file for a motion to hold a vote here (not in the COnfederation where they can edit the polls and rig an election by inflating the vote count)[/size]

Kid you have no Farking say in what happens in venus go back to planning the shithole u call pheonix that will turn out like the rest of the Farking servers Cept venus ofc.

most of the mods in this game dont even play sro anymore let alone play on venus.

sorry for the double post.

Eh too much drama i hate these forums:)

So if avalonian is Kari that means he is moving to Phenoix so this thread doesnt need to be discussed over:)

[Spanktastik]

Coming from someone who doesnt give a damn about the confederation, its white/black lists, its moderators and officers, GM's, Kari himself, Fly and nightbloom drama, that D2A faggot, or any of Venus' politics... You all need to shut the fuuck up and get over it.

Am I the only one who still logs in the to make bots miserable? To make them jump ship the moment a new server comes out? These "forum wars" are shit... a complete wast of time. And the funny thing is after I read all of this retarded drama bullshit, I log in game and it all has no effect whatsoever to the server. Everyone still parties together, everyone still pvps together, no one says a thing. The confederation works and still stands strong, not because of Avalon, Fly or nightbloom, but because of ALL legits of Venus (and even some bots who report people breaking the rules). Nothing said in any forum by anyone is going to change that at all.

So whats the damn point of these stupid flamefests? There is none.

Spanktastik's official suggestion:
Shut the fuuck up Kari
Shut the fuuck up Avalon
Shut the fuuck up BHA
Shut the fuuck up Mods
Shut the fuuck up D2A
Shut the fuuck up Spanktastik

Do something productive or unplug your damn Ethernet.

/End.

[PR0METHEUS]

I think you just got Rick Rolled.

What is this whole "rick rolled" thing about anyway? I mean I've seen the video pop up on the confed forums with the annoying pop up messages, lyrics to a song I think... but does it do anything else?

[IguanaRampage]

tedo why are you even responding to Avalonian aka Kari? he is just pissed he cant start drama on the confed so he is doing it here. this is exactly the reason we have him banned there. and this is exactly why we will fight to keep him banned there.

Avalonian actually isn't Kari. To tell you the truth, he just discovered this thread a minute ago. Kari doesn't seriously post here anymore, he just looks at threads on SRF and tells me what he thinks is amusing .

And yes, I will be the official "rep" for AoW in the confederation, though Kari will be in the guild much more regularly, possibly on a day-to-day basis, though I am not fully aware of his schedule yet.

Good for you foudre. I'm glad you agreed with me that the redirecting of Kari's account was pretty fcked up.

[tedo]

These "forum wars" are shit... a complete wast of time. And the funny thing is after I read all of this retarded drama bullshit, I log in game and it all has no effect whatsoever to the server. Everyone still parties together, everyone still pvps together, no one says a thing. The confederation works and still stands strong, not because of Avalon, Fly or nightbloom, but because of ALL legits of Venus (and even some bots who report people breaking the rules). Nothing said in any forum by anyone is going to change that at all.

So whats the damn point of these stupid flamefests? There is none.

i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVe you spank, someone finally gets it! <3

[Avalonian]

since now the people who owns the Confederation is banned from SRF for botting, people who are supporting the fly/nightbloom are called BS [bot supporter] which is violation of the rules of the confederation and are subjected to punishment.

its a sad so many people been brainwash this thread. one day when your account gets rigged and put on that "miserable list" for saying stuff fly/nightbloom dont like dont come here crying for sympathy.

fly and nightbloom can silence people in the Confederation but not here. that's what makes SRF a true free democracy, a true Confederation, not some BS Confederation that does shady shit in the background just like fly and nightbloom been doing and now got exposed. Fly been lying his ass off always denying shit its funny like "OMG that's like saying the CEO of joymax bots" HAR HAR HAR LOlz any more reasons fly? plz tell us more liez plz plz pleeze

What NB/Fly did is/was wrong.

+164

Where is SRF's miserable list? Nonexistent.
Who's account has SRF Rigged? Oh, what a surprise: No-one's.
How many polls can SRF manipulate? None.

We have something called principles here. I heard they're selling some on ebay.

+9999

In most cases an abuse of moderation power, especially one used to censor the opinions or thoughts of someone in what is supposed to be a democracy, would result in swift punishment upon the party responsible for the injustices.

you ppl are so far and fast in orbit you don't realize how far up their a**holes you've gotten sometimes...incidents like this should normally ground you but instead you rush to their defense as if they were Atlas holding up your world, its disgusting.

+2651

@Guardia
Time to wake up my man. I would say you are the single most loyal member of Avalon towards NB&Fly. Are you aware that you are being mistreated? Wake up BRO!
Its not worth it.

+1539

Im not going to lie,venus is fcked up

venus is not really farked up... what's fcked up is most people are brainwashed and will asskiss them or else they will get their account rigged or blacklisted. go ahead and count the number who are now fly's slaves in this thread. u can read their post and tell they dont have much intelligence. im glad many people in this thread do see the light and not afraid fly will use his emperor power to punish u. glad moving phoenix. haar

[Spanktastik]

i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVe you spank, someone finally gets it! <3

Honestly, it's not rocket science.

<3

[t0rch]

go ahead and count the number who are now fly's slaves in this thread. u can read their post and tell they dont have much intelligence.

Oh man. This made my day.

u make a unintelligle argument.

You leech different points from different peoples' arguments, call them your own, then stack them on top of each other.

Rinse, repeat.

[Zen]

Kari's post / request in the senate was full of disrespect, and certainly did not look like a serious request,
he pretty much got what he asked for,

[DeputyDan]

since now the people who owns the Confederation is banned from SRF for botting, people who are supporting the fly/nightbloom are called BS [bot supporter] which is violation of the rules of the confederation and are subjected to punishment.

its a sad so many people been brainwash this thread. one day when your account gets rigged and put on that "miserable list" for saying stuff fly/nightbloom dont like dont come here crying for sympathy.

fly and nightbloom can silence people in the Confederation but not here. that's what makes SRF a true free democracy, a true Confederation, not some BS Confederation that does shady shit in the background just like fly and nightbloom been doing and now got exposed. Fly been lying his ass off always denying shit its funny like "OMG that's like saying the CEO of joymax bots" HAR HAR HAR LOlz any more reasons fly? plz tell us more liez plz plz pleeze

If you read the post from SG completly, You would know why nb is banned from SRF. Yes the botted on different servers, so what. They came to Venus to make a fresh start and play by the rules they had been breaking. I am not an "Avalonian" I am an "SRO" player and thats all. nb and I hardly ever see eye to eye on certain things, but she still does what she does to uphold the TOS of SRO. Now do me a favor fck tard, Shut the F@ck up, get the hell out of our forums, and go await the Pheonix Forums.

What they did to Kari and his account was fcked up, I agree. What he did on trying to whitelist his guild was also Fckd up. If he wanted to take it seriously, he wouldnt have put "blah blah blah" as his answers.

Now again, Shut the F@ck up, and GTFO of our forums. Dam you went to phoenix, why do you even care anymore what goes on on Venus.

.

Spanktastik's official suggestion:
Shut the fuuck up Kari
Shut the fuuck up Avalon
Shut the fuuck up BHA
Shut the fuuck up Mods
Shut the fuuck up D2A
Shut the fuuck up Spanktastik

Do something productive or unplug your damn Ethernet.

/End.

+1

[SoAyame]

since now the people who owns the Confederation is banned from SRF for botting, people who are supporting the fly/nightbloom are called BS [bot supporter] which is violation of the rules of the confederation and are subjected to punishment.

its a sad so many people been brainwash this thread. one day when your account gets rigged and put on that "miserable list" for saying stuff fly/nightbloom dont like dont come here crying for sympathy.

fly and nightbloom can silence people in the Confederation but not here. that's what makes SRF a true free democracy, a true Confederation, not some BS Confederation that does shady shit in the background just like fly and nightbloom been doing and now got exposed. Fly been lying his ass off always denying shit its funny like "OMG that's like saying the CEO of joymax bots" HAR HAR HAR LOlz any more reasons fly? plz tell us more liez plz plz pleeze

What NB/Fly did is/was wrong.

+164

Where is SRF's miserable list? Nonexistent.
Who's account has SRF Rigged? Oh, what a surprise: No-one's.
How many polls can SRF manipulate? None.

We have something called principles here. I heard they're selling some on ebay.

+9999

In most cases an abuse of moderation power, especially one used to censor the opinions or thoughts of someone in what is supposed to be a democracy, would result in swift punishment upon the party responsible for the injustices.

you ppl are so far and fast in orbit you don't realize how far up their a**holes you've gotten sometimes...incidents like this should normally ground you but instead you rush to their defense as if they were Atlas holding up your world, its disgusting.

+2651

@Guardia
Time to wake up my man. I would say you are the single most loyal member of Avalon towards NB&Fly. Are you aware that you are being mistreated? Wake up BRO!
Its not worth it.

+1539

Im not going to lie,venus is fcked up

venus is not really farked up... what's fcked up is most people are brainwashed and will asskiss them or else they will get their account rigged or blacklisted. go ahead and count the number who are now fly's slaves in this thread. u can read their post and tell they dont have much intelligence. im glad many people in this thread do see the light and not afraid fly will use his emperor power to punish u. glad moving phoenix. haar

Called 90 day rule my friend no one was ever "truly" purely "legit" in my eyes no one will never know because u sit behind the computer

[non ego man]

i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVe you spank, someone finally gets it! <3

Honestly, it's not rocket science.

<3

x2 to both.

[Kirkaldi]

LOL at Desktop.

[Zanam]

LOL at Desktop.

Are you that kirkaldi guy in venus who always wallhumps while having 7 other noobs on horses behind you?

if so i would like you to Kneel down. and suck...my Big Salty Balls.

[t0rch]

size=150]Big Salty Balls.[/size]

...They're salted now?

When did you upgrade!?!?

[mike2007]

size=150]Big Salty Balls.[/size]

...They're salted now?

When did you upgrade!?!?

disapointed u werent offered them first?