IS FORCE USEFULL?

[andycooly]

hi im lvl 26 with lvl 21 bicheon lightning cold and im a nuker. ATM im farming 64k sp. i was wondering is force use full? wat would be better
bicheon/cold/fore or lightning/cold/force or bicheon/lightning/force.
I have a feeling lightning/cold/force would be alot of fun and btw im power farming and by the time i finished farming i will have my nukes. And even if i hand farm a little ill just keep bicheon at lvl 21 until i finished farming. so is a lightning/cold/force good or the other combonations i told u? Or even maybe Cold/fire/lightning i like the sound of cold/fire/lightning aswell!

[andycooly]

please answer i really wanna know its easy as this im lvl 26 with bicheon ligthning cold at 21 and i got force at lvl 17 which im gonna dlvl maybe. Im farming 64k sp and im wondering which tpye of nuker is most fun. ( I LISTED TYPES ON POLL).

[Kieran]

please answer i really wanna know its easy as this im lvl 26 with bicheon ligthning cold at 21 and i got force at lvl 17 which im gonna dlvl maybe. Im farming 64k sp and im wondering which tpye of nuker is most fun. ( I LISTED TYPES ON POLL).

As far as I see it you have two options. You can go Bicheon 90/Lightning 90/Cold 90/Force 30. This way you have all your essential nukes for 90 cap and you have Force for plvling purposes.

OR if you want a fun build, like you asked for, you could go Bicheon 90/Lightning 90/Cold 60/Force 60. This way you have all your lightning nukes, some cold nukes and a nice snow shield, and 60 force for fun purposes. Debuffs are very useful but tbh, for a nuker, I wouldn't take them. You want to be taking them out with 1-2 hits WITHOUT debuffing, so by debuffing it will only take longer. This is how I see it anyway.... I'll let other people say what they think.

IMHO Force ISN'T useful for a nuker but it's sorta fun.

(btw, double posting and bumping a topic that was only made a few hours ago doesn't go down well with the mods =P)

[andycooly]

I DONT WANT 4 DIF MASTERYS ONLY 3!

[Kieran]

I DONT WANT 4 DIF MASTERYS ONLY 3!

Alright, calm down sir. I was only trying to help. In that case, Force is useless. Why don't you want 4 masteries? No matter what happens you're always going to have space left for one more. I would just go Bicheon/Lightning/Cold all 90 and forget about force. If you want it, you can raise it to 30. Otherwise, it's completely useless.

[andycooly]

wat about fire/cold/lightning? or cold/lightning/force?

[_Dutchy_]

Light/cold/Force is one of the strongest nukers poeple higly underastimate this build ppl always go bichoen but i think force is way beter ( my opinion ) if you go force don't go 60 or anything like that since the Debufs will only have effect 6 wich will do nothing to D7-8-9 Wearing players

[andycooly]

wouldnt i get bored coz i only get 2nukes to fight with?

[K a R e E m]

not any of this, my build is
90fire/90bicheon/60 force/60 cold powerful fire nukez and good light/cold buffs

[Barotix]

wat about fire/cold/lightning? or cold/lightning/force?

Two powerful builds for 90 and 100 cap group PvP. Decent in 1v1 PvP as well.

[whiteraven]

im making a

30 bicheon
90 lightning
90 cold
90 force build

atm im just lvl 31 xD i chose to get force to because i like to pwlvl and i think good harmonie therapie and ress are a must for any taxi build

i cant tell you if it will rock at higher lvl... xD

[InsertName]

90 force
90 light
90 ice

need powerlvl till lv30 or get 30 weap and nuke your way to cap

[andycooly]

so lightning/cold/force is good?

[CLOT]

as some 1 said, good in group pvp support nuking + casting vital spot

but not good in 1v1 pvp (decent is overstatement)

even u can get all the vital spot div/decay/weaken on ur enemy, u'll most likely be disabled b4 u can cast ur nuke completely

disable aka KD KB stun dull etc.

not to mention cleric holyspell ruins ur force

[andycooly]

ive decided light/cold/force dats final

[andycooly]

hi will i get bored as a lightning/cold/forece coz only 2 nukes?

[Pandaren Brewmaster]

Depends on u Can be funny for you or can be boring U may test it first.

[andycooly]

should i wear armor or garmet and will it get boring or really fun?

[andycooly]

1: wat would be more fun the bicheon/cold/lightning or cold/lightning/force. ATM im lvl 26 and setting up a 9 gap to farm 53k sp. my bicheon is lvl 21 lightning lvl 21 cold lvl 21 and force lvl 21 i can either dlvl force or bicheon which should i dlvl i dont care as much about which is a tiny bit better i like which i would enjoy more and have fun with i will curst heart either force of bicheon.2: And btw i have lvl 14 fire which i wanna dlvl and lvl 12 heuskuel i wanna dlvl is that ok if i dlvl them?

[Amro]

im making a

30 bicheon
90 lightning
90 cold
90 force build

30 bich for what ???
imo the best pure int s/s builds are 90 bich light cold & 30 fire (or heuksal for hp) and 90 bicheon fire & 60 cold light....

[andycooly]

U did not answer my question can someone answer it...
1: wat would be more fun the bicheon/cold/lightning or cold/lightning/force. ATM im lvl 26 and setting up a 9 gap to farm 53k sp. my bicheon is lvl 21 lightning lvl 21 cold lvl 21 and force lvl 21 i can either dlvl force or bicheon which should i dlvl i dont care as much about which is a tiny bit better i like which i would enjoy more and have fun with i will curst heart either force of bicheon.2: And btw i have lvl 14 fire which i wanna dlvl and lvl 12 heuskuel i wanna dlvl is that ok if i dlvl them?

[Barotix]

U did not answer my question can someone answer it...
1: wat would be more fun the bicheon/cold/lightning or cold/lightning/force. ATM im lvl 26 and setting up a 9 gap to farm 53k sp. my bicheon is lvl 21 lightning lvl 21 cold lvl 21 and force lvl 21 i can either dlvl force or bicheon which should i dlvl i dont care as much about which is a tiny bit better i like which i would enjoy more and have fun with i will curst heart either force of bicheon.2: And btw i have lvl 14 fire which i wanna dlvl and lvl 12 heuskuel i wanna dlvl is that ok if i dlvl them?

It depends on your preference. Other people cannot decide what is more fun for you, that is something you must find on your own. If it means re-rolling once or twice, then no worries. You'll find a fun build that fits your personality.

[andycooly]

i like healing people and i like freezing people so i would like a
bicheon/cold/force but i think there to weak. Are they to weak?
Knowing myself i think i WOULD get bord with a lightning/cold/force to sctratch that wats better out of bicheon/cold/force or bicheon/cold/lightning.

[Barotix]

i like healing people and i like freezing people so i would like a
bicheon/cold/force but i think there to weak. Are they to weak?
Knowing myself i think i WOULD get bord with a lightning/cold/force to sctratch that wats better out of bicheon/cold/force or bicheon/cold/lightning.

If you drop Light for Force, expect full compensation of your damage lost in the form of debuffs (i.e) you,ll be just as strong (if not stronger) in PvP if you use debuffs.

[andycooly]

BICHEON/COLD/FORCE IT IS THEN

[Amro]

in force are vital spot series - nice statuses, but in bicheon is lightning chain (statuses too, division,bleed and impotent),also KDs and stabs & phy def for 15 sec ( very good for ints)
so imo bich/cold/light is better than cold/light/force
but its your choise

[JKMB]

Imo, 90 force, ice and light, 30 sword (to lvl to 30) is good, and so is 90 ice, light, sword, 30 force (low lvl res and parry reduce DOES make a diffrence), personaly i have 60 ice, light, force, sword, and have decided to take sword as it contains the debuffs force has to offer at higher lvl, and has importent skills such as KD and ironwall shield
On top of that at 100cap you also have stun, fear and dull, which unless force gets a pretty kick ass vital at 100, makes it worse then sword IMO at least.