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shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:34 am
by Vuesters92
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:40 am
by Squirt
Loved Rome total war
<3 ancient Asian warfare because of the samurais and all that good stuff
def worth buying if my pc can handle it
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:50 pm
by woutR
Man that's a crappy trailer.
I just hope they make cavalry just as mobile as in Rome Total War again. Really felt like I was using a frigid tank in Medieval II, haven't played Napoleon yet though.
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:40 pm
by Jstar1
^really? I hated the cavalry in rome total war because they were so useless in breaking up an enemy company. I'd have my cavalry charge into a group and like 2 guys tumble backwards when it reality everyone should be flying like bowling pins. I heard they fixed this problem in total realism, the realism mod for the game.
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:57 pm
by satman83
Jstar1 wrote:^really? I hated the cavalry in rome total war because they were so useless in breaking up an enemy company. I'd have my cavalry charge into a group and like 2 guys tumble backwards when it reality everyone should be flying like bowling pins. I heard they fixed this problem in total realism, the realism mod for the game.
i play rome total war using the extended greek mod (amazingly detailed
and historicly accturate.) And only used cavalry solo to protect my hopilites
flaks and running down archers or routed enemies, otherwise 100% useless
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:05 pm
by woutR
Well you should realize that Rome Total War uses the triangle strategy for units.
Cavalry > Archers
Archers > Foot soldiers
Foot soldiers > cavalry
You can make a triangle out of that. It's the same for a lot of other strategy games (age of empires)
So
Jstar1 wrote:I'd have my cavalry charge into a group and like 2 guys tumble backwards when it reality everyone should be flying like bowling pins.
is really just a really bad move because you should not charge cavalry into a group of foot soldiers. That will rout your cavalry really fast.
What you should try to do is get your own foot soldiers against theirs and then smash your own cavalry into their backs. That will definitely get those units flying around and will rout them immediately if performed well.
In Rome your cavalry is really fast and swift, you can easily outmaneuver slower units and really smash into groups and then quickly ride away. In the other games cavalry just doesn't respond that fast.
Anyways, I really didn't want to turn this into a schooling or whatever. I (also) just play this game on single player so in the end it only matters if we all just have fun
Btw, I learned this stuff from the "Prince of Macedon" who makes really fun/educational videos on all of the Total War games. He calls riding cavalry into the back of engaged units 'hammer and anvil' strikes. Your own foot soldiers are the anvil and you hammer your cavalry on that to sandwich them.
Youtube Prince of Macedon if you really want to see the effectiveness of cavalry. He's got like a thousand videos out there so shouldn't be too hard to find one where he's hammering people with his cavalry.
Re: shogun 2 total war
Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:41 am
by [SD]happynoobing
i wish they can make a three kingdoms version (i think there might be a RTW mod or something)