DoTA

[NuclearSilo]

Yes, BOT is cool. I usually buy it if im a support hero STR and INT, easier to gang and def. But if it's a dmg dealer hero, a solo hero, generally AGI hero, you should buy threads.

With a good dmg dealer like Mortred or Traxex, and with good items, with Omiknight anti magic. You can kill the whole other team

[conkker]

OMG, Roof is simply amazing!!! Radiance+Refresher+boots of travel+Heart of tarresque =win

[Mirosuke]

Just won my first Garena DotA game (yeah, first since i was playing only on pubs and/or friends).

Was 5 vs 54 at first, but then 3 (Sniper, Bloodsekeer, and that heroe who can swap) vs 2 (me-> Crixalis and Rexxar)

=D

[NuclearSilo]

Combo and team

AoE ulti team
Heroes: TideHunter + Tree + Enigma + Lina + Magnus
Reason: disable aoe more than 15s with full team

No escape team
Heroes: Prophet + Zeus + Spectre + Venomancer + any heroes
Reason: Unescapable low HP enemy, 2 good global teleporters, Venom ulti drains quite good amount of HP

Silence team
Heroes: Traxex + Death Prophet + Puck + Silencer + Balanar
Reason: say byebye to spells, anti spell combo

Drain mana team
Heroes: Nerub + Magina + Ezalor + Invoker + Omiknight
Reason: say byebye to mana

Dmg team (range)
Heroes: Traxex + Luna + Vengeful + Blood + Magnataur
Reason: all for dmg, traxex at lvl 11 with only a power thread could have up to +380 dmg, need BKB

Dmg team (melee)
Heroes: Blood + Sven + Magnataur + Vengeful + any
Reason: good anti melee, Sven as the main dmg dealer with all buffs is +321% dmg ~ +300 bonus dmg naked item.

Armor team
Heroes: Shadow priest, Lich, Dragon Knight, Tree, Huskar
Reason: is a beast team, if other team don't have dmg dealer, consider it lose. Dragon knight with all buffs would have base+60 armor (assault+Satanic=25). Other bonus armor depends on his agility. Huskar will eventually heal him

Reduce Armor team
Heroes: Sladar, Nevermore, Shadow priest, Vengeful, Tidehunter
Reason: reduce up to -55 armor (with desolator), centaur 4k HP or less, die in seconds

Push team / Defense team
Heroes: Prophet, Broodmother, Ezalor, Pitlord, Rhasta
Reason: choose this team if the enemy doesn't have good aoe spell.

Harash team (range,magic)
Heroes: Maiden, Ezalor, Zeus, Tide, Gondar
Reason: very good in spamming spell because of Maiden aura, chance of getting hit by spell is 100%, harass at earlier game, enemies can't farm. Maiden, Zeus, Ezalor, each one in different lane. Zeus mid

Harash team (melee)
Heroes: Alchemist, Kunkka, Sand King, Axe, any
Reason: these are 4 quite good melee harasher at earlier game, the enemy got a hard time to farm. Alchemist go with Axe due to 5s stun + axe's Hard Skin. You can also pick Techie, if you know how to play, having 20 kills in a game is a normal thing.

Hero Combo

Necrolyte + Huskar
Reason: anti-imba, combo ulti instant kill (huskar then necro)

Lion + Rhasta
Reason: combo disable + ulti = gg

Alchemist + Ursa or Riki or Pudge
Reason: 5s stun => 5s ursa free attack and riki back stab, smoke to protect team, 100% chance to hook from pudge

Weaver + Dark Seer
Reason: the trick is using watcher + dark seer burn skill to drain the enemies HP, good in chasing as well as farming in earlier game

Dark Seer + gondar or riki
Reason: Dark seer shell + invi hero approach enemy = drain HP

Dark Seer + Axe or Pudge
Reason: It hurts when you stay close to Axe/Pudge with Dark Seer shell

Riki + Ogre Magi
Reason: with the increase of speed and attack speed, you can always backstab without the need of Blink

Blood + Pugna or Ursa or Witch Doctor
Reason: stay = die, run = die

Pugna + Zeus or Tinker or any pure magic hero or has Dagon lvl 5
Reason: spell dmg = O_O

Pudge + Omiknight
Reason: slower annoy, omi antispell prevent pudge from losing HP

Maiden + Yunero
Reason: spinning hurt when you can't escape at earlier game

Tiny + Techie
Reason: suicide mission

Magnus + Lich/Maiden
Reason: Lich/Maiden ulti hurts when you stay close together

Zeus + Venom or Doom
Reason: Venom drain HP of most hero to 3/4 at earlier game, if lucky Zeus will finish off

[fckerr]

Nice Silo but doing one sided teams in competitive matches is not a good idea and can be easily countered.
Anyway dmg range team with SF and the fat tree instead of bs and magnus would be nice...

[SM-Count]

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

[NuclearSilo]

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

Not really. You only need 2 nukers at mid Puck and Pitlord. The enemy's creeps will all dead. If necessary you'll need Destroyer to refresh mana and his ulti drain 75% of the enemy's MP. Invoker has also the ability to drain mana. Nuker without mana can't push.
We have 2 heroes left will farm at bot and up, they'll have the highest level and gold among the heroes. Traxex + omiknight kill all

[fckerr]

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

Isnt ezalor and kol (keeper of the light) the same hero?
Anyway if u want fast game add Broodmother, but most likely the opponent will pick earthshaker and ur 5 team mid will die in one ulti death prophet is a good counter to push strategy too.

[SM-Count]

Es* for stuns in the first group battle (the only one that counts). In pub games if you set it up they are never prepared. And no one plays pit or puck in pubs, pushing at level 3 = no ultis and no invoker goes wex invoke wex for the first three levels... ever.

[fckerr]

Pubs. -_-

[fena]

[GUIDE] Troll Warlord

Critique if you want. Flame too, go ahead.

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

Looks good on paper, but any anti-push team will raze right through that strategy. Not to mention that Prophet is an extremely weak pick in the meta-game, made even more so by the new QB.

If you want to end the game fast, try: Nevermore, Beastmaster, Zeus, Enigma, and Lich. Rape Roshan before the creep wave spawns, with Nevermore and Beastmaster splitting the EXP to level up to three right off the bat. BM and SF take the two solo lanes, with Zeus and Lich dominating the short lane into oblivion. Enigma roams / jungles. Entire team regroups at level 6 and ends the game before 20:00.

[SM-Count]

[GUIDE] Troll Warlord

Critique if you want. Flame too, go ahead.

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

Looks good on paper, but any anti-push team will raze right through that strategy. Not to mention that Prophet is an extremely weak pick in the meta-game, made even more so by the new QB.

If you want to end the game fast, try: Nevermore, Beastmaster, Zeus, Enigma, and Lich. Rape Roshan before the creep wave spawns, with Nevermore and Beastmaster splitting the EXP to level up to three right off the bat. BM and SF take the two solo lanes, with Zeus and Lich dominating the short lane into oblivion. Enigma roams / jungles. Entire team regroups at level 6 and ends the game before 20:00.

Well we're both talking pubs here. No pro game is gonna leave river unscouted and no pub game is gonna know to get anti nuke, except mine's more annoying... though Rosh before creep starts might get more rage quit.

Haha, troll. Survive -> Win. Although I remember (I need to play dota again sometime, new maps are exciting) image heroes(equal farm) raping troll pretty hard.

[fena]

[GUIDE] Troll Warlord

Critique if you want. Flame too, go ahead.

Prophet + Never + Ez + KoL + Syllah + 5 mid at level 3 = take mid in 5 minutes game in 20; gayest shit ever if your opponent don't have enough nukes to counter early game.

Looks good on paper, but any anti-push team will raze right through that strategy. Not to mention that Prophet is an extremely weak pick in the meta-game, made even more so by the new QB.

If you want to end the game fast, try: Nevermore, Beastmaster, Zeus, Enigma, and Lich. Rape Roshan before the creep wave spawns, with Nevermore and Beastmaster splitting the EXP to level up to three right off the bat. BM and SF take the two solo lanes, with Zeus and Lich dominating the short lane into oblivion. Enigma roams / jungles. Entire team regroups at level 6 and ends the game before 20:00.

Well we're both talking pubs here. No pro game is gonna leave river unscouted and no pub game is gonna know to get anti nuke, except mine's more annoying... though Rosh before creep starts might get more rage quit.

Haha, troll. Survive -> Win. Although I remember (I need to play dota again sometime, new maps are exciting) image heroes(equal farm) raping troll pretty hard.

You have no idea, haha. If you do a Rosh before creep starts in a pub, almost the entire enemy team quits right then and there.

Yeah, image carries (Naga and TB specifically) destroy single-target DPSers like Troll, PA, and Void since they can't single out the real hero. The problem is easily remedied by any AoE nuke, though. A single Light Strike Array from Lina will be able to give you the information you need, and then its bye bye.

The new Troll is nice, though - megabuffed from 6.59. He's still not competitively viable, of course, but he's a great pub stomper.

[SM-Count]

I'm confused, which one's you? Or are you asking yourself questions to bump >.>




Spending time in this thread has made me reinstall War3, is Garena still the place to play or did bnet make a comback? Or is there somewhere I haven't heard of?

[fckerr]

Trolls my favourite hero after 6.60 release.Its so imba in pubs, free neutral farming and rosh at level 8. Ending 4-8 levels higher than all if I solo every roshan.

[fena]

I'm confused, which one's you? Or are you asking yourself questions to bump >.>

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Spending time in this thread has made me reinstall War3, is Garena still the place to play or did bnet make a comback? Or is there somewhere I haven't heard of?

That's not me, haha. Its one of my friends IRL though. I introduced him to the forums when he was at my house and since he doesn't use forums regularly, he just uploaded that avy from my picture library

garena and bnet see relatively equal play, although bnet has quite a bit more lag than garena does. Generally, you never see -em mode in garena, whereas on bnet you see quite a bit of "PROS ONLY EM MODE." The skill level between the two is about the same, though, although garena players are a bit more elitist because they see people who play bnet as em-mode-only-noobs.

[SM-Count]

Hm... anywhere to get good reps for 6.61b besides gosugamers.net(great site)?

[fena]

I usually just use gosugamers, since as you mentioned before, it is a great site.

PlayDota (the new official site after Icefrog's split with Pendragon and Guinsoo) is working on making a good competitive section that will hopefully surpass gosugamers in the near future, but its still in the works and nobody knows how long it'll take.

[Rakion]

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one of the best Meepo player i've ever seen and hes also pinoy

btw... i'm loving seer, enigma and tormented soul.

[SM-Count]

My First Day Back in School(pretend this forum supports strike through and school is striked) DotA

Section One: -random sexy

oooohhhh, noooo waaaiiiiii:


Too bad I only glanced at and didn't actually read through fena's guide... awe well, how hard can troll be? (note: don't copy anything I did in this post, it's jff for my first game back. I did a half-hearted mortred build, again, didn't actually read fena's guide, with PMS instead of vanguard. Why not vanguard? Cause TC made me so Farking mad this game it's insane how much I wanted to find him and destroy his computer, internet, family, rape his sister, rip out his internet, blow up his house /end mood swing but seriously, I've always advocated PMS > vanguard with melee since you can get other items faster)

Spoiler!

Oh, right... This is what happens when I play late game hero like early game hero and **** with undying early game, don't do that kiddies, undying is harass proof.

REVENGE!!!!

Spoiler!

Lol int, and naj with crit at early game? scrub. Again, don't do this, you're not a Farking ganker, you don't belong in river, I did it cause it's first game and I love the luls, but serious dent to my farm and almost cost us game.


And this is why you aren't ganking early game(ever):

Spoiler!

YOU CAN'T Farking CATCHING ANYFUCKING ONE with your no disable no slow ass. Yeah, naj got away.

Yes I'm still ganking with trlol

Spoiler!

Stupid int

Section Two: Team Battles in Pubs a.k.a Helen Keller Team

Routine top gank I called in, but wait, I think we're suppose to get a kill or something when we gank. I haven't been away that long have I? Gank still means kill the guy?

Spoiler!

TC's thought bubble: If we kill him that'd be good, but since I'm the suck I can't let good things happen, so I'm gonna fail stun after 6 seconds of running through the Farking woods and block pudge at the same time so he can't possibly pull off a hook. But I can mitigate how obviously bad I am by earning 40 gold and damaging two other creeps!

Thought Bubble #2: Lets see, I fail stunned, I have almost no mana, what to do... what to do... oright! I still have ulti, lets use it on a full health undying, cause it's not like he can move one step to his right or pull of something amazingly skillful like that

Spoiler!

My thought bubble: God, if you exist, you would smite a creation so inept.

Still good, 4v3 with enig and pudge with mana, we can still win:

Spoiler!

They can't be that bad.

Oh right, they're blind and deaf and those disabilities tend to get in the way of DotA:

Spoiler!

Hook missed, maybe black hole and rot them to death? Oh, wait, can't, there's a creep here, gotta get that 40 gold.

Alright, because of my [attempts at]ganking with troll I'm far behind on farm and level, need Rosh fast, but of course, my favorite person comes to share exp with me:

Spoiler!

I mean, really? REALLY?? REAL Farking LY??? /sigh, squeezes stress ball (not pictured, the using clockwerk, who left, rocket to spot me

Salvation:

Spoiler!

It turns out all TC needs is a ledge the exact size his AOEs are to use his skills correctly! He's so good.

It's Happening Again /cut/cut/cut/cut

Spoiler!

Look at him, sending them running back to their fountain with lower health than when they engaged us, so good. Yes, that is naj critting me for 2/3 my health. Late game naj crit, ouch.

Section Three: Ride of the Valkyries

You better run...

Spoiler!

well, no, you don't have to run, TC can't land ulti, you can just stand there and he'll miss

Note how bad I'm doing, that's what happens when you try to gank early game instead of farming like a good boy. Also note how I didn't actually read fena's guide (satanic into bfly):

Spoiler!

Don't let TC's stats fool you, he stole all his kills from pudge and enig. No I'm not just saying that, he literally stole ALL the kills, he earned no kills himself cause he can't land his skills the first time, only after black hole when the other team can't move.

Late Game + Troll = Faceroll

Spoiler!

/pat, brave level 25 kuk

int late game = int mid game = int early game = paper/glass/this box is fragile

Spoiler!

Keep in mind he didn't random, he choose storm.

6 kills in a row to make up for the fact I played troll like a tard early game and slow farmed my ass up

Spoiler!

gg, no re. Please tell me all pubs aren't like this. total wards bought: 0 total ganks called by people not me: 0

[NuclearSilo]

Anyone knows how to set shortcut to use item skill in the inventory?

[Castiel]

@silo, i dont think you can, but if you switch the items around in the inventory, it changes its hotkey to a different number.

[NuclearSilo]

to which number?

[Castiel]

it picks a random number. keep switching till you get the number you want i guess

[NuclearSilo]

oh, I remembered. You can use the numpad. But that's freaking far for the attack keys. I guess you can modify that in the file customkey.txt or make a macro

[NuclearSilo]

Play play and play, noob become pro by only this way. Learn last hit, deny. Go to forums read guides, builds. Then discover your own build and style play.

[Azilius]

O_o Oh God. I need to play this game.

I installed Frozen throne 2 days ago after not playing for liek 4 years and I was again, in love with it so bad. I loved controlling the heroes and attacking. And now, you tell me this game is exactly what I'm looking for ^^.

Please someone halp meee.

What do I need to do. What do I need to get. pretty pl0x.

You're going to have to put up with a looooooot of shit talking because you're new. Best advice I can give you is to not leave any game unless it's 3*v5, 2*v4, etc (*meaning you're on that side).

Watch how other people play and always watch the minimap..etcetc

You'll get better over time =p

[vengeanze]

i just seen a gameplay of it on youtube, its bad ... i wud rate it 2/10..but maybe playing with friends is fun.

[Miguez]

i just seen a gameplay of it on youtube, its bad ... i wud rate it 2/10..but maybe playing with friends is fun.

this is so wrong lol.

watching is boring, playing is great.

[NuclearSilo]

Rikimaru is my best hero. Whenever I use this hero, the battle is generally win even my team is noob