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screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:50 am
by Innovacious
since apparently the only person who can see them is the person who sent/recieved its just the same as word of mouth. Its so easy to modify a screenshot

the colour of the text and the text allignment is a little bit off but i wasnt really trying that hard, this is just an example, and if i didnt say that you probably wouldnt have noticed it was off anyway
just a friendly warning that you cant believe everything you see in a screenshot
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:55 am
by Twist
Lawl SG,damn you,and all i wanted was naked pics of you!*snif snif
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:56 am
by NuclearSilo
Or
Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:58 am
by Innovacious
NuclearSilo wrote:Or
Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save
hmm, didnt think about that one *goes off an makes another screenshot of NuclearSilo admitting*
lol, j/k
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:27 pm
by StealMySoda
NuclearSilo wrote:Or
Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save
Exactly why I ask for the whole screenshot, not just the web page.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:00 pm
by Ryoko
You can still edit it.
Should be dimissed imo.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:17 pm
by SuicideGrl
yes, SSes of private messages should definitely not be admitted as evidence.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:50 pm
by Rush4Life
for a few seconds I thought the screenshot was real, and if it was real, I would have been so pissed, becuase SG banned me for 7days for 3th pt software.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:58 pm
by Priam
Rush4Life wrote:for a few seconds I thought the screenshot was real, and if it was real, I would have been so pissed, becuase SG banned me for 7days for 3th pt software.
which you then, totally deserved, andlost all right to complain.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:58 pm
by NuclearSilo
^and ur still using it?

Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:43 pm
by Ryoko
If your allowed SS's of PM's....

- evenbetter.jpg (156.21 KiB) Viewed 9114 times
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:14 am
by StuckUP
roflmao is that a fckin for real.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:20 am
by SuicideGrl
StuckUP wrote:roflmao is that a fckin for real.
no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:56 am
by Mage Pker
SuicideGrl wrote:StuckUP wrote:roflmao is that a fckin for real.
no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.
ok so u only accept things u see ingame only now? how can u tell if the person ingame is the same as the person on forums, i can say any botter ingame is anyone from SRF......
a cpl of ppl have been banned from PM's so are u unbanning them?
edit: its not hard to edit ingame chats either, so wat evidence will be accepted? videos of the char botting? lol
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:06 am
by SuicideGrl
Mage Pker wrote:SuicideGrl wrote:StuckUP wrote:roflmao is that a fckin for real.
no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.
ok so u only accept things u see ingame only now? how can u tell if the person ingame is the same as the person on forums, i can say any botter ingame is anyone from SRF......
a cpl of ppl have been banned from PM's so are u unbanning them?
edit: its not hard to edit ingame chats either, so wat evidence will be accepted? videos of the char botting? lol
it's at our discretion. period.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:51 am
by Mage Pker
it's at our discretion. period.
ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:05 am
by SuicideGrl
Mage Pker wrote:it's at our discretion. period.
ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>
<sorry Ryoko, i think i said too much :P>
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:23 am
by ThisIsAvalon
SuicideGrl wrote:Mage Pker wrote:it's at our discretion. period.
ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>
<sorry Ryoko, i think i said too much
>

Thats illegal in 47 states you know.......
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:26 am
by SuicideGrl
ThisIsAvalon wrote::shock: :shock: Thats illegal in 47 states you know.......
thankfully we lie safely out of the jurisdiction of ALL of them ;)
just... don't mention this to anyone, k? thx.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:26 pm
by Ryoko
Mage Pker wrote:it's at our discretion. period.
ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
Awe someone you like banned?
Someone you dislike didnt get banned?
/tissue

If I was playing favorites, luoma would be reinstated. Even better.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 pm
by non ego man
SuicideGrl wrote:Mage Pker wrote:ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>
Of the approximately ten billion trillion responses to Mage Pker, you chose the best. Amazing skillz. I'm in awe.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:03 pm
by PR0METHEUS
I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.
One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.
Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:46 pm
by SuicideGrl
non ego man wrote:SuicideGrl wrote:Mage Pker wrote:ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.
it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>
Of the approximately ten billion trillion responses to Mage Pker, you chose the best. Amazing skillz. I'm in awe.
wut u mean? iz tru!
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:36 pm
by ThisIsAvalon
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:00 pm
by crazy_foo
OH NO SG how could u

Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:49 pm
by Necrobat
PR0METHEUS wrote:I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.
One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.
Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.
If that were to come into play, who's to say they wouldn't stop botting if they do so for that time, then return to doing it the instant the bane is lifted?
SG, that reply was win. lol
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:56 am
by PR0METHEUS
Necrobat wrote:PR0METHEUS wrote:I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.
One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.
Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.
If that were to come into play, who's to say they wouldn't stop botting if they do so for that time, then return to doing it the instant the bane is lifted?
SG, that reply was win. lol
I'm not saying temp-ban them for botting, but a temp-ban for 'suspicious behaviour' while they are investigated. If they are a proven bot, perma-ban. There is no coming back. If the evidence turned out to be fake, or insufficient, lift the ban.
Again, maybe it's not necessary because if someone was wrongfully accused and banned because of it, they can still contact the mod team with proof to get their account unbanned if they wish.
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:10 am
by Airbeat
Ryoko wrote:/tissue

Lol!

Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:28 pm
by BloodyBlade
Suicide bots? =O
xD
Re: screenshots of private messages?
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:10 pm
by Avalanche
Wait, sui, is it possible for you to go into someones acc and look at the PM's that way?
Only if they allow you, that is.