trane and LaCe , zoomhack

[rek]

Zoom hack is serious business. Everytime it is initiated, 10,000 children die around the world. I cant believe there are people like this in our world. Why can't they just think of the children? THE CHILDREN!

Wuts worse than a child found in a trash can?

Obviously Zoom Hack cmon.

Nope, 1 baby found in several trashcans.

jk

[MrTwilliger]

It sounds like you think that by passing out 7 Day bans to the people using loaders here is going to eliminate the problem in game.

Im sorry to go offtopic here mods, but i think its relevant to the fight against bots. This statement Crimson said is completely wrong. When Buster5995, one of my closest mates, was banned from srf for botting he got hounded down incredibly. People spammed his myspace, email, you name it. I remember him telling me the stories >.<

So he left SRO for a fair while, stopped botting lithierm and in the end quit. It did him good, he was so addicted, fi would be on msn ( as i never really played SRO too much, just a casual player ) he would always be preoccupied baby sitting his bot, he barely ever went out any more. When he finally returned it was on venus as a legit.

Despite your cynic views Crimson, SRF does a lot more then you think. So how about you get some proof before you post such bold statements, ok love?

[Grimjaw]

Nope, 1 baby found in several trashcans.

jk

Rek. You're to cute and to sweet a person to make jokes like that. :3

[.curve]

In wow you can jump...
In Flyff you can fly...
Is it ok if i selfishly decide these are an acceptable addition I can have in silkroad because apparently it should be in the game as other games have these features...?

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Guess so.

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What's the key word in your post there? Bot. These two aren't being exposed for botting, but for zoomhack. Nice story there and all, but irrelevant to the point at hand.

[ping_lo]

lol thats just Joymax poor way of designing the fortress. So what? Just because fortress war was implimented we should all stop using zoom hack?

No you should have never started to use it in the first place.

Which btw allows us to create movies, take great pictures when you have a huge group together. cmon here...

Erm you can create movies and take group shots without zoomhack. Not a valid argument.

you know as long as the anti stealth & invis has been out. Have Joymax even attempted to fix it?

Zomg they have not fixed it?! That must mean they want no demand everyone to exploit it!. No really... cmon here.

So what it improves our clicking ability the fortress war is unbalanced anyway.

Sounds like someone who could not win fair and is making weak excuses for cheating.

Since when did editing your sro_client.exe become illegal too?

Long time ago it did. And some people HAVE been banned for it. But much like botting joymax got lax. The only reason that PK2 edits are allowed at all on the forum is that there are some that are 100% beneficial without altering the actual game play. Such as better english translation. Other language translation or innocuous things like bypassing the retarted chat filter or replacing one degree gear look with another. Then there are the ones that ruin the game the way zoomhack does. Like anti invis etc.

When am banned from Silkroad itself with a punishment Description of "PK2 Edits" "Client Files Differ". Then you prove me totally wrong but people will use them and continue to use them.

They really don't ban for botting anymore. Ok ever. Chances of getting banned for pk2 are infantesimal. It was and however still is bannable if they so chose to do anything at all.

This being said am totally against bots and 3rd party tools such as loader. But i don't see anything apart from a zoom hack edit here. This is not classed as botting.

No but the logic you use is the exact same as the logic the botters use. It is always joymax isn't punnishing people for this even though they say they will so it must be ok. Bla bla bla. If you bother to look you can easily find out you are wrong. But you don't even try. Would you believe it if a SRF mod told you it would? --> viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82443 nah probably still would not. The excuse looses it's effectiveness when logic and knowledge get involved.

[ping_lo]

This is a simplification of the current situation for most servers.
So the 10 people without loader are just getting screwed by loaders? Don't make me laugh...

Some people have morals and ethics unlike yourself. They play as they are supposed to play. You and others like you are part of the problem and not the solution. Cheating is cheating. You ruin the game for even one person it is enough.

Why do people use loader/no-dc-client? Cuz it's f*cking bullshit to open client 50+ times & typing id/pw every frigging time.

Perhaps. Need a tissue? You choose to play this game. That is something you have to work with. Don't go crying or making excuses.

Joymax has tried implementing this no-dc function before; but as they are such skillful programmers, they failed.

They succeeded quite well. It is called premium. No idea what you thought you were reffering too.

I am PRO loader/no-dc client atm!
Why?
Well, some botters in my guild saw people quitting cuz they never could get in the server; they gave a link to rumata's loader & now people are returning cuz they can "easily" log in now.

Ooooh botters gave it? Must be ok then.

If Joymax would do it's job properly, there would be no need for these programs.

It is because people use 3rd party programs that you feel you need to use 3rd party programs. You are your own problem. You cry how you can't get in because people are cheating to get in and then say why the hell should I care about those that don't use it and can't connect because of those like you. Really. Really? Do you read what you type?

There are quit a lot of topics regarding cap 100 & even higher. And my oh my, what a surprise we find in answers there:
"Lol, who will farm all that sp by hand?"
"U have to be crazy to still play..."
....
Do these sentence imply u should start botting? or just quit?

Quit. While you are ahead prefferably.

I'm sure the sentence "Cuz it's f*cking bullshit to open client 50+ times & typing id/pw every frigging time" will lead to "if it's bullshit to open client 50 times, it's also bullshit to kill xxx mobs by hand to get lvl up"
It's happened more than once before...I now could say the arguments, but they will be countered & re-countered

So you know the flaw in your logic. Why then do you seem to keep using it when you know it is incorrect?

Here's another simple statistic:
75% or more doesn't even play Isro anymore on this forum
-> group 1 just stays in OTL
-> group 2 comes to GD and starts bullshitting: "just quit" or "omg, u still playing" and ofcourse start flame wars if they see an opportunity.

What you call bullshit some people in the real world call truth. Funny thing that. Oh BTW greetings from the real world.

How about some more mods eh... Only Mod I see in GD & stuff is Barotix
Cuz group 2 is really starting to piss me off! If u open a topic, there are 2 usefull posts and 7 with BS..

That you are pissed off only shows that our job is working. Frankly I find it annoying when people post such poorly formed and obviously false arguments as if they were unchallenged truth. Such stuff needs to be challenged. Just because you are not up to the challenge does not make something BS.

[rek]

Nope, 1 baby found in several trashcans.

jk

Rek. You're to cute and to sweet a person to make jokes like that. :3

[Lowis]

No you should have never started to use it in the first place.

This is coming from someone who quit... No longer plays silkroad... You took the easy way out you shouldn't be talking...

Erm you can create movies and take group shots without zoomhack. Not a valid argument.

Not a valid argument.... lolz... I guess you haven't tryed to take screenshots for sro picture or worked in photoshop. Sony vegas?

Zomg they have not fixed it?! That must mean they want no demand everyone to exploit it!. No really... cmon here.

Did i say zomg! we all should use it! cmon here its been exploited now by hundred of people. I know already how frustrating it is being on a trade run and being seen invisible. But it still will remain unfixed.

Fortress War comment

Nope don't really play fortress and when i did by the time you run around and paying attention to enemy and gates you just wouldn't have time to use it or at least me i cant multitask like some people. Have you ever played a fortress war?

Though i understand completely why people use it. Jangan fortress is already uneven being able to click people on top of the building is so much harder then they clicking us below.

The exploit on the side of the fortress being able to exploit inside the fortress. Well thats a REAL EXPLOIT but dont ever expect a fix for that as well. This is the only bug people bitch at the most for zoomhack. If it was fixed there wouldn't be any.

Long time ago it did. And some people HAVE been banned for it. But much like botting joymax got lax. The only reason that PK2 edits are allowed at all on the forum is that there are some that are 100% beneficial without altering the actual game play. Such as better english translation. Other language translation or innocuous things like bypassing the retarted chat filter or replacing one degree gear look with another. Then there are the ones that ruin the game the way zoomhack does. Like anti invis etc.

Give me one great reason why zoomhack ruins the game. A really good one because all the bullshit i've heard to far is "zoomhack distroys the game...."

idk all this the game has been distroyed crap, i think i've heard the same thing over and over now for about 2 years... I mean some say its already distroyed some say it will be distroyed... Can be just drop the hole it will distroy the game... zomg!!! Because i seriously don't think it will distroy the game. People need to quit going so overboard about situations they can't control. We have a company loaded with your cash to deal with these problems.

They really don't ban for botting anymore. Ok ever. Chances of getting banned for pk2 are infantesimal. It was and however still is bannable if they so chose to do anything at all.

Which they will NEVER.... EVER.... End of story to that...

No but the logic you use is the exact same as the logic the botters use. It is always joymax isn't punnishing people for this even though they say they will so it must be ok. Bla bla bla. If you bother to look you can easily find out you are wrong. But you don't even try. Would you believe it if a SRF mod told you it would? --> viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82443 nah probably still would not. The excuse looses it's effectiveness when logic and knowledge get involved.

I have very mixed feelings towards loader. I believe if it didn't come with an addon for bots more people would be using it. When people here loader the first thing they say is its a BOT. Which obviously they can't read the lines.

If another loader was made with

NO DC - A godsent
Zoomhack - Helpful
Nude Patch - For perverts even though kSRO has it still fully legit for isro.
Curse Filter (useless Alt 255 does the trick)

Am pretty sure everyone would have a different prospective at a loader. With the game in this state and the thousands that use it (YES, thousands) Nobody will stop using the current loader.

If the game wasn't in its state it was today there would not be anyone that would need 1/4 of these tools. But it is and as i said before.

It cannot be fixed... It cannot be changed... When the game finally starts getting into poor shape and less silk coming in Joymax will act just like they are doing with kSRO which is DEAD.

[.curve]

Nude patch and mild swear filter can both be fixed by changing the locale of your pk2 from English to Korean. Just saying.

[ping_lo]

No you should have never started to use it in the first place.

This is coming from someone who quit... No longer plays silkroad... You took the easy way out you shouldn't be talking...

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Wait wait wait. Quitting is the easy way out? Soooooo ummmmm what botting and cheating is the hard way? SRO was and still is my favorite MMO I have ever played. Quitting was the hardest thing to do child. I left the game I love and lots of friends behind because I got tired of putting up with the impudence of those such as yourself who's babysitters and parrents are not doing their job. I played SRO for nearly 3 years straight. Usually 3+ hours a day. In the end though quitting was a good thing. It was eating into my life outside of work. But please tell me again how much harder you have it than I did since you are breaking not only forum rules but joymax's rules as well. I like to laugh.

Erm you can create movies and take group shots without zoomhack. Not a valid argument.

Not a valid argument.... lolz... I guess you haven't tryed to take screenshots for sro picture or worked in photoshop. Sony vegas?

You are new here aren't you. I posted many pictures over the years and shot and edited a ton of video in premiere not that namby pamby vegas. I used to have quite a few well edited videos posted to youtube before they started on this rampage of removing anything that gave a slight wiff of copyright such as music. I still have over 1GB of SRO pics on a hard disk and 30GB of video footage. And guess what. No zoom hack ever.

Zomg they have not fixed it?! That must mean they want no demand everyone to exploit it!. No really... cmon here.

Did i say zomg! we all should use it! cmon here its been exploited now by hundred of people. I know already how frustrating it is being on a trade run and being seen invisible. But it still will remain unfixed.

You did not use those exact words sure. But that was exactly what you said and just said again hypocryte.

Nope don't really play fortress and when i did by the time you run around and paying attention to enemy and gates you just wouldn't have time to use it or at least me i cant multitask like some people. Have you ever played a fortress war?

Though i understand completely why people use it. Jangan fortress is already uneven being able to click people on top of the building is so much harder then they clicking us below.

The exploit on the side of the fortress being able to exploit inside the fortress. Well thats a REAL EXPLOIT but dont ever expect a fix for that as well. This is the only bug people bitch at the most for zoomhack. If it was fixed there wouldn't be any.

Listen son it is like real life. Those with the high ground have the advantage. Those defending at home have the advantage. That is the way things are. Crying about them and how you cannot cope with them is not an excuse sorry.

Long time ago it did. And some people HAVE been banned for it. But much like botting joymax got lax. The only reason that PK2 edits are allowed at all on the forum is that there are some that are 100% beneficial without altering the actual game play. Such as better english translation. Other language translation or innocuous things like bypassing the retarted chat filter or replacing one degree gear look with another. Then there are the ones that ruin the game the way zoomhack does. Like anti invis etc.

Give me one great reason why zoomhack ruins the game. A really good one because all the bullshit i've heard to far is "zoomhack distroys the game...."

Listen kiddo I devastate your argument at every turn. You said you would not believe it till you saw it so I showed you info on it. Your argument destroyed you moved the goal posts like those ignorant creationists refusing to acknowledge your error. What good does me listing anything for you do. You refuse to look around or educate yourself. You compare yourself to the worst the community and game have to offer and say "see I am not that bad" when you should be comparing yourself to the games best and striving to be like them. And don't start in with the Fly and NB crap because that was not some reference to them. You act selfish and spoiled. It is always you you you you you. Whatever you want it is ok because it is for you everyone else be damned. You can't admit something is wrong etc because you would have to admit you are wrong.

idk all this the game has been distroyed crap, i think i've heard the same thing over and over now for about 2 years... I mean some say its already distroyed some say it will be distroyed... Can be just drop the hole it will distroy the game... zomg!!! Because i seriously don't think it will distroy the game. People need to quit going so overboard about situations they can't control. We have a company loaded with your cash to deal with these problems.

Just because the company shirks responsibility does not mean that we as a community or individuals should. It is because of people like you that the game is dead/dying. If enough people tried things could change. Venus is not the best example but look at it. Ok I know so many of you love botters and the things they do for you and praise the bot infested servers all day long at times. Love it or hate it you have to admit that a few individuals had a huge impact on that server. Now imagine that a lot more people took such an interest. Imagine that most of the server felt that way. That is what SRO used to be like and what you missed. For a long time botters were hated despised and outcast and everyone in the community let them know just how they felt. But as it became more and more apparent that Joymax had little desire to enforce the rules more and more weak willed children like you began to give in. Turning the game into the grade a shitthole it is today.

They really don't ban for botting anymore. Ok ever. Chances of getting banned for pk2 are infantesimal. It was and however still is bannable if they so chose to do anything at all.

Which they will NEVER.... EVER.... End of story to that...

Still wrong to do it. You loose.

No but the logic you use is the exact same as the logic the botters use. It is always joymax isn't punnishing people for this even though they say they will so it must be ok. Bla bla bla. If you bother to look you can easily find out you are wrong. But you don't even try. Would you believe it if a SRF mod told you it would? --> viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82443 nah probably still would not. The excuse looses it's effectiveness when logic and knowledge get involved.

I have very mixed feelings towards loader. I believe if it didn't come with an addon for bots more people would be using it. When people here loader the first thing they say is its a BOT. Which obviously they can't read the lines.

Has little to do with bots. It would still be wrong even if it never came with a bot ever. I will agree that the whole having to relaunch the app over and over to login is retarted. But it is the way things are and the cost of playing if you want to. End of story. By using the loader you give yourself an unfair advantage causing a negative impact on each and every legitimate player. You become part of the problem and not the solution. You can not argue with that. Does not matter how few legitimate players are left even if there were 0 you are still wrong. You cannot argue otherwise.

If another loader was made with

NO DC - A godsent
Zoomhack - Helpful
Nude Patch - For perverts even though kSRO has it still fully legit for isro.
Curse Filter (useless Alt 255 does the trick)

Am pretty sure everyone would have a different prospective at a loader.

Untill the day Joymax said they are ok and you would not get banned for touching them I and many others would still not use them.

With the game in this state and the thousands that use it (YES, thousands) Nobody will stop using the current loader.

If the game wasn't in its state it was today there would not be anyone that would need 1/4 of these tools. But it is and as i said before.

Again you are comparing yourself to the worst saying you are not as bad as them even though you are still wrong. Step up your game lill one. Get serious or quit. Quit the game or quit calling yourself legitimate. Either one will do I suppose. This whole "everyone else is doing it so why can't I" BS is what is causing all this problem.

It cannot be fixed... It cannot be changed... When the game finally starts getting into poor shape and less silk coming in Joymax will act just like they are doing with kSRO which is DEAD.

I would rather play KSRO than ISRO. At least there people play the game more and make excuses less. There those who have higher level tend to have earned it a bit more and earn respect. Sure there are still some botters but not as bad as ISRO. Dead KSRO sounds like a paradise compared to the hypocritical ISRO.

[LivithiuM]

@Lowis

If the game wasn't in its state it was today there would not be anyone that would need 1/4 of these tools. But it is and as i said before.

The reason the game is in its state today is because of the ignorant and selfish thinking of people like yourself.

I play this game and I don't NEED any tools, I only need YOU not to need them. I think you need a lesson in learning the difference between wants and needs.

You want to cheat? That is up to you, however, do not try to justify it as being fair.

[majincooler]

Omg I had so much fun reading someone who has quit Silkroad and still defending it argument xD

Ping_lo you made my day YAY for this, and ofcourse you would know what I mean by this if you are smart enough

[ping_lo]

Omg I had so much fun reading someone who has quit Silkroad and still defending it argument xD

Ping_lo you made my day YAY for this, and ofcourse you would know what I mean by this if you are smart enough

me: I will take failure for 500 alex.
alex trebeck: I am a stall tactic used in debate usually in desperation.
me: what is a thinly veiled attempt at sarcasm to distract from the fact they cannot answer.
alex trebeck: you are correct sir.

[Lowis]

Wait wait wait. Quitting is the easy way out? Soooooo ummmmm what botting and cheating is the hard way? SRO was and still is my favorite MMO I have ever played. Quitting was the hardest thing to do child. I left the game I love and lots of friends behind because I got tired of putting up with the impudence of those such as yourself who's babysitters and parrents are not doing their job. I played SRO for nearly 3 years straight. Usually 3+ hours a day. In the end though quitting was a good thing. It was eating into my life outside of work. But please tell me again how much harder you have it than I did since you are breaking not only forum rules but joymax's rules as well. I like to laugh.

So you basically turned into another crybaby that left the game. Not the first wont be the last...

You are new here aren't you. I posted many pictures over the years and shot and edited a ton of video in premiere not that namby pamby vegas. I used to have quite a few well edited videos posted to youtube before they started on this rampage of removing anything that gave a slight wiff of copyright such as music. I still have over 1GB of SRO pics on a hard disk and 30GB of video footage. And guess what. No zoom hack ever.

Never seen them and i browse youtube alot must not of been that good...

You did not use those exact words sure. But that was exactly what you said and just said again hypocryte.

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Nope don't really play fortress and when i did by the time you run around and paying attention to enemy and gates you just wouldn't have time to use it or at least me i cant multitask like some people. Have you ever played a fortress war?

Listen son it is like real life. Those with the high ground have the advantage. Those defending at home have the advantage. That is the way things are. Crying about them and how you cannot cope with them is not an excuse sorry.

Who was crying about it again?

Listen kiddo I devastate your argument at every turn. You said you would not believe it till you saw it so I showed you info on it. Your argument destroyed you moved the goal posts like those ignorant creationists refusing to acknowledge your error. What good does me listing anything for you do. You refuse to look around or educate yourself. You compare yourself to the worst the community and game have to offer and say "see I am not that bad" when you should be comparing yourself to the games best and striving to be like them. And don't start in with the Fly and NB crap because that was not some reference to them. You act selfish and spoiled. It is always you you you you you. Whatever you want it is ok because it is for you everyone else be damned. You can't admit something is wrong etc because you would have to admit you are wrong.

More insults and still didn't provide me with one great reason that it distorys the game...

Just because the company shirks responsibility does not mean that we as a community or individuals should. It is because of people like you that the game is dead/dying. If enough people tried things could change. Venus is not the best example but look at it. Ok I know so many of you love botters and the things they do for you and praise the bot infested servers all day long at times. Love it or hate it you have to admit that a few individuals had a huge impact on that server. Now imagine that a lot more people took such an interest. Imagine that most of the server felt that way. That is what SRO used to be like and what you missed. For a long time botters were hated despised and outcast and everyone in the community let them know just how they felt. But as it became more and more apparent that Joymax had little desire to enforce the rules more and more weak willed children like you began to give in. Turning the game into the grade a shitthole it is today.

What would happen if the world had no law enforcement, no laws, no military and no help. Would you expect people not to kill or steal? Look at what happened to New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit. (Yes i was a victim) You cannot say oh well the community can run the game. Kids play this game and its free which makes it even worse.

Look at EcSRO for god sake they've taken really good care of their little server and the bots. They arn't even the real deal! it shows what a difference it can make if you get involved.

Still wrong to do it. You loose.

Loose what, You make the rules for SRO now? Are you trying to be the one that enforces the rules for this game. Got along way to go but gj for trying.

No but the logic you use is the exact same as the logic the botters use. It is always joymax isn't punnishing people for this even though they say they will so it must be ok. Bla bla bla. If you bother to look you can easily find out you are wrong. But you don't even try. Would you believe it if a SRF mod told you it would? --> viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82443 nah probably still would not. The excuse looses it's effectiveness when logic and knowledge get involved.

Has little to do with bots. It would still be wrong even if it never came with a bot ever. I will agree that the whole having to relaunch the app over and over to login is retarted. But it is the way things are and the cost of playing if you want to. End of story. By using the loader you give yourself an unfair advantage causing a negative impact on each and every legitimate player. You become part of the problem and not the solution. You can not argue with that. Does not matter how few legitimate players are left even if there were 0 you are still wrong. You cannot argue otherwise.

The client used to be No-DC the only reason it went back because it was setting off most of the anti virus protection. That or the programmers failed big time at trying it was discussed once before here.

It is RETARDED to load the client over and over i've played this game for many years and i will never reload the client over and over again. you still have to wait 10 seconds to re-enter the code anyway. Your not even exactly spamming to get into the server you are still prompted with legit image code. As far as am concerned if i enter that correctly i deserve to get in the game.

Take the economy for example people warned us about what would happen. Look what we are in today.... BECAUSE NOBODY TOOK CONTROL OR ACTION.... Thats a fact you cannot deny.

Again you are comparing yourself to the worst saying you are not as bad as them even though you are still wrong. Step up your game lill one. Get serious or quit. Quit the game or quit calling yourself legitimate. Either one will do I suppose. This whole "everyone else is doing it so why can't I" BS is what is causing all this problem.

lol... I never called myself legit think the term is over rated and stupid. I don't need a huge handy badge to tell me who i am and how i play the game.

I would rather play KSRO than ISRO. At least there people play the game more and make excuses less. There those who have higher level tend to have earned it a bit more and earn respect. Sure there are still some botters but not as bad as ISRO. Dead KSRO sounds like a paradise compared to the hypocritical ISRO.

Wouldn't like to try it out myself already played cSRO.

My comments are all legit and how i feel the game is frustrating and to know it wont be changed makes me more mad. I still believe in my opinion just like you think about your opinion.

[ping_lo]

Wait wait wait. Quitting is the easy way out? Soooooo ummmmm what botting and cheating is the hard way? SRO was and still is my favorite MMO I have ever played. Quitting was the hardest thing to do child. I left the game I love and lots of friends behind because I got tired of putting up with the impudence of those such as yourself who's babysitters and parrents are not doing their job. I played SRO for nearly 3 years straight. Usually 3+ hours a day. In the end though quitting was a good thing. It was eating into my life outside of work. But please tell me again how much harder you have it than I did since you are breaking not only forum rules but joymax's rules as well. I like to laugh.

So you basically turned into another crybaby that left the game. Not the first wont be the last...

Awww an insult to avoid answering me. Typical. Come on tell me how hard it is for you cheaters and the bots. Tell me how easy us legits had it. Come one stop with the inefectual insults and answer the question. If I took the easy way out and you exploit the game for your own selfish ends what is the hard way?

You are new here aren't you. I posted many pictures over the years and shot and edited a ton of video in premiere not that namby pamby vegas. I used to have quite a few well edited videos posted to youtube before they started on this rampage of removing anything that gave a slight wiff of copyright such as music. I still have over 1GB of SRO pics on a hard disk and 30GB of video footage. And guess what. No zoom hack ever.

Never seen them and i browse youtube alot must not of been that good...

Insufferable, ignorant, and egotistical. So you single handedly have seen every single good video hosted on youtube. Quite an accomplishment. You call guinness?

You did not use those exact words sure. But that was exactly what you said and just said again hypocryte.

lol another insult got they get funny everytime

Hypocrite is only an insult if you consider the truth insulting. Hypocrisy is simply the act of critisising others for things you do yourself. Which you do. It is factual and hardly insulting.

Nope don't really play fortress and when i did by the time you run around and paying attention to enemy and gates you just wouldn't have time to use it or at least me i cant multitask like some people. Have you ever played a fortress war?

Listen son it is like real life. Those with the high ground have the advantage. Those defending at home have the advantage. That is the way things are. Crying about them and how you cannot cope with them is not an excuse sorry.

Who was crying about it again?

You. Reading is FUNdamental. Try it some time.

Listen kiddo I devastate your argument at every turn. You said you would not believe it till you saw it so I showed you info on it. Your argument destroyed you moved the goal posts like those ignorant creationists refusing to acknowledge your error. What good does me listing anything for you do. You refuse to look around or educate yourself. You compare yourself to the worst the community and game have to offer and say "see I am not that bad" when you should be comparing yourself to the games best and striving to be like them. And don't start in with the Fly and NB crap because that was not some reference to them. You act selfish and spoiled. It is always you you you you you. Whatever you want it is ok because it is for you everyone else be damned. You can't admit something is wrong etc because you would have to admit you are wrong.

More insults and still didn't provide me with one great reason that it distorys the game...

What was the insult there? The fact you refuse to admit what you condone is wrong. The fact you don't bother to try to educate yourself to form informed opinions. The fact that you have to compare yourself to the worst SRO has to offer to look better? It is not like I am calling you a noob etc or anything that would be considered a traditional insult. And ignorance is curable if you take the time to address it. Not that insulting.

Just because the company shirks responsibility does not mean that we as a community or individuals should. It is because of people like you that the game is dead/dying. If enough people tried things could change. Venus is not the best example but look at it. Ok I know so many of you love botters and the things they do for you and praise the bot infested servers all day long at times. Love it or hate it you have to admit that a few individuals had a huge impact on that server. Now imagine that a lot more people took such an interest. Imagine that most of the server felt that way. That is what SRO used to be like and what you missed. For a long time botters were hated despised and outcast and everyone in the community let them know just how they felt. But as it became more and more apparent that Joymax had little desire to enforce the rules more and more weak willed children like you began to give in. Turning the game into the grade a shitthole it is today.

What would happen if the world had no law enforcement, no laws, no military and no help. Would you expect people not to kill or steal? Look at what happened to New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit. (Yes i was a victim) You cannot say oh well the community can run the game. Kids play this game and its free which makes it even worse.

I understand there is a limit to what community can do. But the community can do more than you give them credit for. Sure some rape and pillage as you describe but some rebuild and reign in the chaos. You know as well as anyone whether or not you will acknowledge it that "everyone else is doing it" is not an excuse. Your doing it because you want to. You know it is not right. You are trying to convince yourself more than anyone.

Look at EcSRO for god sake they've taken really good care of their little server and the bots. They arn't even the real deal! it shows what a difference it can make if you get involved.

Agreed and while the blame ultimately falls on joymax the community and those like you bear responsibility as well. You know what you are condoning if not doing is part of the problem and not the solution. You tell yourself all sorts of things to make yourself feel better. But while you might be able to convince yourself you are not going to convince others. I may rarely log in and only talk to friends when I do but I still know the score.

Still wrong to do it. You loose.

Loose what, You make the rules for SRO now? Are you trying to be the one that enforces the rules for this game. Got along way to go but gj for trying.

These are joymax's rules. Not mine. Yeah they don't enforce them. But them's still the rules. You break em you can't call yourself legitimate. Them's the breaks. Say what you like. Just don't go condoning the stuff and try to claim being legit. You know better.

No but the logic you use is the exact same as the logic the botters use. It is always joymax isn't punnishing people for this even though they say they will so it must be ok. Bla bla bla. If you bother to look you can easily find out you are wrong. But you don't even try. Would you believe it if a SRF mod told you it would? --> viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82443 nah probably still would not. The excuse looses it's effectiveness when logic and knowledge get involved.

Has little to do with bots. It would still be wrong even if it never came with a bot ever. I will agree that the whole having to relaunch the app over and over to login is retarted. But it is the way things are and the cost of playing if you want to. End of story. By using the loader you give yourself an unfair advantage causing a negative impact on each and every legitimate player. You become part of the problem and not the solution. You can not argue with that. Does not matter how few legitimate players are left even if there were 0 you are still wrong. You cannot argue otherwise.

The client used to be No-DC the only reason it went back because it was setting off most of the anti virus protection. That or the programmers failed big time at trying it was discussed once before here.

False positives are a problem for the av vendor not joymax so that should not be the case. And the whole disconnect thing is not something accidental or incompetence driven. They made it that way on purpose. Code wise it would be a simple thing to go back to the login screen or hop on a queue. They chose not to for a reason. And that is greed. If you never DCed people would hammer the server with requests which they cheat and do anyhow lagging the server. If you implement a queue everyone gets on eventually and easily. Why would you buy a premium there. What you see is not accidental. It is that way for a purpose. I may not agree with it either but I understand it and it is their place to do it if they like. It is their game after all and they let you connect "eventually" for free. They owe you nothing on that front.

It is RETARDED to load the client over and over i've played this game for many years and i will never reload the client over and over again. you still have to wait 10 seconds to re-enter the code anyway. Your not even exactly spamming to get into the server you are still prompted with legit image code. As far as am concerned if i enter that correctly i deserve to get in the game.

Who are you trying to convince here. Me or you. I know the rules. You know them too. Rules say you are in the wrong. People have been banned for loaders etc. You see it as minimal risk so you do it. You know it negatively impacts the game. You try to down play it for your conscience.

Take the economy for example people warned us about what would happen. Look what we are in today.... BECAUSE NOBODY TOOK CONTROL OR ACTION.... Thats a fact you cannot deny.

Never did. How does this relate really though. And some did take action to prepare etc and will be better off than those that did not. Yes there is one group that is ruining it for everyone else. So does that mean you should get your share of messing things up as well? Weren't they wrong for doing it and wouldn't you be wrong for doing it?

Again you are comparing yourself to the worst saying you are not as bad as them even though you are still wrong. Step up your game lill one. Get serious or quit. Quit the game or quit calling yourself legitimate. Either one will do I suppose. This whole "everyone else is doing it so why can't I" BS is what is causing all this problem.

lol... I never called myself legit think the term is over rated and stupid. I don't need a huge handy badge to tell me who i am and how i play the game.

Then you do understand this is not the forum for you. There are forums where you can discuss loaders and more. This is not one of them. This is the sort of forum and this is the specific section for people to expose others for the very same actions you condone. They are within their rights to do so here. You don't have to like it and we don't want to know either way.

I would rather play KSRO than ISRO. At least there people play the game more and make excuses less. There those who have higher level tend to have earned it a bit more and earn respect. Sure there are still some botters but not as bad as ISRO. Dead KSRO sounds like a paradise compared to the hypocritical ISRO.

Wouldn't like to try it out myself already played cSRO.

Keep in mind CSRO is a good deal different. But you like the messed up way iSRO is. so it only makes sense you would not like the game as it is supposed to be played.

My comments are all legit and how i feel the game is frustrating and to know it wont be changed makes me more mad. I still believe in my opinion just like you think about your opinion.

Your comments are not legit. This is not opinion. This is based on the rules set up by this forum and yes even joymax themselves. You are well within your rights to feel frustrated with joymax. All of us are. However you are not within your rights to condone those sorts of things. Here especially. Facts are facts. You are trying to smudge logic to make shades of gray where there are none.

[Bop]

OT: those are some epic long posts =o

OnT: continue on...

[LivithiuM]

I guess ping should of read your sig earlier.

-If joymax can't follow their own rules, Why should we?
- Only Joymax can restore order.

First.. Do as I say not as I do. Understand this and then maybe you understand why there are still people left that obey a ToS that is not policed.

Take some responsibility.
Stand up and be counted.
Or risk being a sheep like all the rest.

[SwordCloud]

Why mod don't block this topic?
Lowis and w/e razorhead,we are here for arguing about how Loadr is cool to use or not.
People already get banned for loader(who said when you don't buy silk??).
Loader is illegal whatever you think or not,in this forum the rule say clearly that loader is bannable 7 days,you both appenrently break the rule,hope you get perm ban for be proud of it.

You ask what the hell wrong with zoomhack?
I already told you,and don't tell us bull shi t "yes i use only for videö plys oke?"this is a lie.
With zoom hack which is a "hack" you can cheat by many other way,like put the range at 5 and wait with the zoom hack at a point that you can't see without because of a moutain or so.
Yes you can cheat by many way.
No dc => buy premium
Nude patch=>hmm are you 21 +? or 18 +?are you major in your country?yes no?don't tell us bull sh!t.
Swear filter=>you want insult in game?waaa it's fun you can insult with **** ass and the other can't Oo oh wait...he will answer in turk you get owned.
you both are wrong.
Let mod think about if they use or not.
/End discuss

[.curve]

Rofl at this topic honestly. The accused could have been banned and come back in the time this topic has remained open. Good job.

[majincooler]

OT: those are some epic long posts =o

OnT: continue on...

I m loving it I just cant stop laughing

Keep going guys. The road to a purely legit Silkroad community is here

[mike2007]

is any1 actually reading that bullshit that lowis calls a post besides ping?

[Lowis]

Awww an insult to avoid answering me. Typical. Come on tell me how hard it is for you cheaters and the bots. Tell me how easy us legits had it. Come one stop with the inefectual insults and answer the question. If I took the easy way out and you exploit the game for your own selfish ends what is the hard way?

I was a so called 'legit'.... Until i realized i had to be a dumbass to keep reloading my game....

Insufferable, ignorant, and egotistical. So you single handedly have seen every single good video hosted on youtube. Quite an accomplishment. You call guinness?

God i hope so, you know how many retarded video's are on there?

Hypocrite is only an insult if you consider the truth insulting. Hypocrisy is simply the act of critisising others for things you do yourself. Which you do. It is factual and hardly insulting.

No, What i do is express and voice my opinion it is not hypocritical only to those that do not agree. Like you

You. Reading is FUNdamental. Try it some time.

Am sorry i just couldn't find it. All i saw was replies to the idiot that was whining about zoomhack in fortress.

What was the insult there? The fact you refuse to admit what you condone is wrong. The fact you don't bother to try to educate yourself to form informed opinions. The fact that you have to compare yourself to the worst SRO has to offer to look better? It is not like I am calling you a noob etc or anything that would be considered a traditional insult. And ignorance is curable if you take the time to address it. Not that insulting.

Yes there was an insult. You had to bring NB and Fly into the post.... Even more low...

What would happen if the world had no law enforcement, no laws, no military and no help. Would you expect people not to kill or steal? Look at what happened to New Orleans when Hurricane Katrina hit. (Yes i was a victim) You cannot say oh well the community can run the game. Kids play this game and its free which makes it even worse.[/quote]

I understand there is a limit to what community can do. But the community can do more than you give them credit for. Sure some rape and pillage as you describe but some rebuild and reign in the chaos. You know as well as anyone whether or not you will acknowledge it that "everyone else is doing it" is not an excuse. Your doing it because you want to. You know it is not right. You are trying to convince yourself more than anyone.

Am doing it because i wish to take good photo's and videos in SRO thats all i ever use it for somehow i don't think at all that is wrong. This was the statement i was backing up and 100% behind before people started to turn it into Bots, NB, Fly, NO-DC, etc...

Agreed and while the blame ultimately falls on joymax the community and those like you bear responsibility as well. You know what you are condoning if not doing is part of the problem and not the solution. You tell yourself all sorts of things to make yourself feel better. But while you might be able to convince yourself you are not going to convince others. I may rarely log in and only talk to friends when I do but I still know the score.

Neglecting the game and refusing to bring in proper control to a situation as bad as it is now is unacceptable. Game Enforcement has been needed since day one, and thats just END OF STORY. The game will continue the way it is no matter how bad you want to agree because you cannot control what is going on in-game.

These are joymax's rules. Not mine. Yeah they don't enforce them. But them's still the rules. You break em you can't call yourself legitimate. Them's the breaks. Say what you like. Just don't go condoning the stuff and try to claim being legit. You know better.

I never said i was legit since when do you need a legit badge? Am just not the person that goes around saying HEY! look at me am a SRO LEGIT MEMBER ZOMMGG!!!!. Kinda stupid lol. I guess am legit in my own way.

False positives are a problem for the av vendor not joymax so that should not be the case. And the whole disconnect thing is not something accidental or incompetence driven. They made it that way on purpose. Code wise it would be a simple thing to go back to the login screen or hop on a queue. They chose not to for a reason. And that is greed. If you never DCed people would hammer the server with requests which they cheat and do anyhow lagging the server. If you implement a queue everyone gets on eventually and easily. Why would you buy a premium there. What you see is not accidental. It is that way for a purpose. I may not agree with it either but I understand it and it is their place to do it if they like. It is their game after all and they let you connect "eventually" for free. They owe you nothing on that front.

Yes and i play the system by using No-DC because its the most stupid thing ever to reload the client. I still have to wait 10 seconds to enter a code anyway.

Who are you trying to convince here. Me or you. I know the rules. You know them too. Rules say you are in the wrong. People have been banned for loaders etc. You see it as minimal risk so you do it. You know it negatively impacts the game. You try to down play it for your conscience.

Yes but i've never said i use a loader now your putting words into my mouth. People HAVE been banned for using a loader those that have NEVER botted to simply get into the game. You still do not realize how many people turn away from the game because of the traffic. No-DC doesn't hurt anybody it just cuts the time of reconnecting over and over to half. takes about 15-45 seconds to reload the client and enter your details. No-DC cuts that down to 10 - 12 the amount that should be needed.

I've played many free games and premium ones. I have never come across one that you are needed to reload the game just to get past server traffic. My former posts have also agreed that a queue system would be needed. Will never happen because then premium tickets would be useless.

Never did. How does this relate really though. And some did take action to prepare etc and will be better off than those that did not. Yes there is one group that is ruining it for everyone else. So does that mean you should get your share of messing things up as well? Weren't they wrong for doing it and wouldn't you be wrong for doing it?

Yes this does relate because SRO is in a long depression as we are in a recession. Joymax didn't give two shits about this game when it started down into a recession. Former players that have just given up completely. Posts are made everyday asking for help on the official forums. The POTW posts are flooded with FACK MOTHER, **** TURKEY and are never deleted or moderated.

It's Chaos... lol..

We are only now getting billions in a stimulus package.

The damage has already been done people homeless because of not being able to get credit to buy a house. People are being forced into foreclosure because the house isn't worth as much as they need payed. People are being layed off by the thousands everyday still. So yeah it somewhat does relate.

Then you do understand this is not the forum for you. There are forums where you can discuss loaders and more. This is not one of them. This is the sort of forum and this is the specific section for people to expose others for the very same actions you condone. They are within their rights to do so here. You don't have to like it and we don't want to know either way.

I don't come here to listen about people get banned from the forums i come here to listen to news about silkroad. Those that get a laugh about banning others doesn't justify anything. They know that because their already back here under new accounts. It isn't going to change anything or improve the game. It is the wrong approach its just some silly little legit game to get back at botters. Even nightbloom has been through a second account after being banned here most likely on her third by now. Those that admit to botting should be punished as thats the main problem.

This topic is far off this is about a zoomhack being used for photo's i dont even see a screenshot that gives them a clear advantage. Thats just getting back on topic.

Keep in mind CSRO is a good deal different. But you like the messed up way iSRO is. so it only makes sense you would not like the game as it is supposed to be played.

No i do not like the way iSRO is messed up but i've played for a very long time knowing i cannot change the thousands that abuse it. I have good friends that still play the game and i continue with them. I do not bitch and cry and leave a game because its in a poor condition. I'll leave when i get bored and a better game comes out. Which has my eyes on Aion Online.

Your comments are not legit. This is not opinion. This is based on the rules set up by this forum and yes even joymax themselves. You are well within your rights to feel frustrated with joymax. All of us are. However you are not within your rights to condone those sorts of things. Here especially. Facts are facts. You are trying to smudge logic to make shades of gray where there are none.

Here we go about this legit shit again... Am i seriously going to have to photoshop a SRO Legit badge. I've never seen a community bitch so much about being legit in my life. Am registered on countless forums for different games and i never here anyone even say the term legit i here cheating and glitching. your like tucked up in your own little world like its a prize to be an SRO legit. If using a zoomhack to improve pictures and video production and not being used as an exploit is so wrong and it makes me not a legit. That is perfectly fine with me it wouldn't bother me at all. If i am having fun the way i game and how i game and doesn't including botting or glitching then its legit in my own way.

is any1 actually reading that bullshit that lowis calls a post besides ping?

Obviously i got you too whether or not you agree i couldn't give a shit.

[RedBlueGreen]

OT: those are some epic long posts =o

OnT: continue on...

lets put it in one of them fail pictures o.O

[.curve]

blah blah blah

God that's so annoying to have to scroll past. You argue in circles like a fucking 12 year old, and to be honest, I have no idea what you're arguing for anymore(probably because I cba to read your long ass, unnecessary posts). And now that I've called you out, you're going to pull the typical internet badass approach and say you don't care and wow I would have to resort to insulting you and blah blah bullshit. Sit down kid, no one's reading your posts, and your epeen isn't growing.

But for the sake of this thread, I repeat again:

Rofl at this topic honestly. The accused could have been banned and come back in the time this topic has remained open. Good job.

[Lowis]

blah blah blah

God that's so annoying to have to scroll past. You argue in circles like a fucking 12 year old, and to be honest, I have no idea what you're arguing for anymore(probably because I cba to read your long ass, unnecessary posts). And now that I've called you out, you're going to pull the typical internet badass approach and say you don't care and wow I would have to resort to insulting you and blah blah bullshit. Sit down kid, no one's reading your posts, and your epeen isn't growing.

But for the sake of this thread, I repeat again:

Rofl at this topic honestly. The accused could have been banned and come back in the time this topic has remained open. Good job.

So wait. You say my post is pointless yet you said you didn't read it... Come on gtfo of the topic if your going to make stupid comments like that. Typical idiot from venus.

but lol @ my long posts.

[.curve]

blah blah blah

God that's so annoying to have to scroll past. You argue in circles like a fucking 12 year old, and to be honest, I have no idea what you're arguing for anymore(probably because I cba to read your long ass, unnecessary posts). And now that I've called you out, you're going to pull the typical internet badass approach and say you don't care and wow I would have to resort to insulting you and blah blah bullshit. Sit down kid, no one's reading your posts, and your epeen isn't growing.

But for the sake of this thread, I repeat again:

Rofl at this topic honestly. The accused could have been banned and come back in the time this topic has remained open. Good job.

So wait. You say my post is pointless yet you said you didn't read it... Come on gtfo of the topic if your going to make stupid comments like that. Typical idiot from venus.

but lol @ my long posts.

It doesn't take a genius to understand. Your posts, the actual posts themselves, not the content, are pointless.

Lol at the judgment based on server. I'm not from Venus, but the responses I get from having that there are amusing. Don't you feel like an idiot now.

[Rival]

Bla bla bla.zoom hack 120%%%%%%%%%%%

[Lowis]

blah blah blah

God that's so annoying to have to scroll past. You argue in circles like a fucking 12 year old, and to be honest, I have no idea what you're arguing for anymore(probably because I cba to read your long ass, unnecessary posts). And now that I've called you out, you're going to pull the typical internet badass approach and say you don't care and wow I would have to resort to insulting you and blah blah bullshit. Sit down kid, no one's reading your posts, and your epeen isn't growing.

But for the sake of this thread, I repeat again:

Rofl at this topic honestly. The accused could have been banned and come back in the time this topic has remained open. Good job.

[/quote]


So wait. You say my post is pointless yet you said you didn't read it... Come on gtfo of the topic if your going to make stupid comments like that. Typical idiot from venus.

but lol @ my long posts.[/quote]
It doesn't take a genius to understand. Your posts, the actual posts themselves, not the content, are pointless.

Lol at the judgment based on server. I'm not from Venus, but the responses I get from having that there are amusing. Don't you feel like an idiot now.[/quote]

Your server wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for a sneaky caught botter and if i felt like an idiot i would never of replied. But i do chuckle...

[ping_lo]

I guess ping should of read your sig earlier.

-If joymax can't follow their own rules, Why should we?
- Only Joymax can restore order.

First.. Do as I say not as I do. Understand this and then maybe you understand why there are still people left that obey a ToS that is not policed.

Take some responsibility.
Stand up and be counted.
Or risk being a sheep like all the rest.

I read it. Just toying with him a bit. Honestly a mod should read it. And then read his admission of using patched client etc. He is up at the very least for a 7 day due to self pwnage. That alone makes it all the funnier and all the more worth it. Though really you can see quite easy all his arguments are circular and not based on right or wrong. But what he "percieves" everyone else is doing. If all the other cheaters started jumping off a bridge he would do it to if he thought it would get him ahead somehow. Perhaps we should start a rumor that self castration is awesome and all the cool people are doing it. Would save future generations alot of headaches.

Anyhow just having a bit of fun with the closeted weak minded forum members. This one has slipped. Only a matter of time till RGB does it and probably pan as well. If only there were less people like them SRO might almost be worth coming back to.

To many sheep not enough herders.

[Lowis]

I guess ping should of read your sig earlier.

-If joymax can't follow their own rules, Why should we?
- Only Joymax can restore order.

First.. Do as I say not as I do. Understand this and then maybe you understand why there are still people left that obey a ToS that is not policed.

Take some responsibility.
Stand up and be counted.
Or risk being a sheep like all the rest.

I read it. Just toying with him a bit. Honestly a mod should read it. And then read his admission of using patched client etc. He is up at the very least for a 7 day due to self pwnage. That alone makes it all the funnier and all the more worth it. Though really you can see quite easy all his arguments are circular and not based on right or wrong. But what he "percieves" everyone else is doing. If all the other cheaters started jumping off a bridge he would do it to if he thought it would get him ahead somehow. Perhaps we should start a rumor that self castration is awesome and all the cool people are doing it. Would save future generations alot of headaches.

Anyhow just having a bit of fun with the closeted weak minded forum members. This one has slipped. Only a matter of time till RGB does it and probably pan as well. If only there were less people like them SRO might almost be worth coming back to.

To many sheep not enough herders.

Playing with me... lol.. Can't see any self pwnage here what i have listed is not exactly in the rules. Patching a client or editing or PK2 editing is not against the rules for what i have admitted. If you go back futher through my posts you will realize that about 1-2 months ago openly admited on this forum about pk2 editing and client editing.

You just can't face the facts that what i say is the truth only to be shutup by the legit badge squad. What is a 7 day ban going to accomplish even if it is decided.

Take some responsibility.
Stand up and be counted.
Or risk being a sheep like all the rest.

I am far away from being a sheep i have a successful guild and many actives that trade / hunt. Take group pictures and just hang out and pvp each other. We are all in the 40-90 range and have fun together.

The only people here turning themselfs into sheep are the guys complaining, and those that have quit like babies. All my posts stated that zoom-hack should not be a bannable offense it doesn't harm anything.

Honestly those that don't think so are those that sit and complain on srf all day about bots. Like ping_lo. I've learned to live with what is in-game and what is left of sro. Every other day you see a quiting post and giving away account threads. You'll never see mine even when a bigger and better game comes out.

Going through the rules in threads

[READ] 5 EASY WAYS TO GET BANNED FROM SRF
READ: Silkroad Forum Rules

I don't see anything about PK2 edits or client editing.