AFTER FOTRESS WAR -- z0d

[Calico]

Have fun kiddo.

Opinion : a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

Fact : something that actually exists; reality; truth.

Legits loss the FW to bots <- Fact
The biggest legit union got backstabbed by one of their strong guilds <- Fact

kthxbai.

I'll break this down for you.

What you said in the first place:

Hera is epic fail for legits and its a fact, not an opinion.

Turns out YOU were wrong there eh? I like how you ignored that little gem. Let's continue..

Legits loss the FW to bots <- Fact

No. Legits lost the FW to bots and legits; so that statement is not a fact. Try again? Let's see if you can go three for three.. I have a good feeling about this one..

The biggest legit union got backstabbed by one of their strong guilds <- Fact

Wrong again. The word backstabbed makes it an opinion instantly. Thanks.

I hate when morons kthxbai me.. Just a side note.

[PureStr]

http://www.dictionnary.com

use it.

[bakafish]

http://www.dictionnary.com

use it.

LoL.... you spelt it wrongly.

[Calico]

http://www.dictionnary.com

use it.

That's a fail. You know what you just said to me? That you were wrong. Seriously just leave. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

And you know what? There was legits and bots on every union. Epic union had a multiple chinese botters come in for the FW. However they didn't know they were bots and were kicked the next day, but that's irrelevant to the FW discussion.

[sirs1ayer]

You're all getting a ban.
fortress war is a week from today.. well a little less.
We'll see what the plan is this time.

[larroxx]

Dear IceCrash lal

i tried to speak very clear and without any abusive words but heey here we go again a kid who goes talk dirty oh man . u think ur words gona hit me ? Well my friend i hope u are happy with ur life . I am not ignorant tbh i m just saying cuz he starts flaming to other ppl what do u call this ? Please if u cant replay without flame just dont bother to replay IceCrash m8 i hope u understand what im saying but i guess not

[BloodOwnzzz]

Hera is where all the cool kids hang out.

[nohunta]

Have fun kiddo.

Opinion : a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

Fact : something that actually exists; reality; truth.

Legits loss the FW to bots <- Fact
The biggest legit union got backstabbed by one of their strong guilds <- Fact

kthxbai.

I'll break this down for you.

What you said in the first place:

Hera is epic fail for legits and its a fact, not an opinion.

Turns out YOU were wrong there eh? I like how you ignored that little gem. Let's continue..

Legits loss the FW to bots <- Fact

No. Legits lost the FW to bots and legits; so that statement is not a fact. Try again? Let's see if you can go three for three.. I have a good feeling about this one..

The biggest legit union got backstabbed by one of their strong guilds <- Fact

Wrong again. The word backstabbed makes it an opinion instantly. Thanks.

I hate when morons kthxbai me.. Just a side note.

Sorry but you should read a few signatures around here some of them stating" Legit is Legit there is no Farking gray area"--Which means that a bot union is a Farking BOT union Seriously Calico, think before you type some of that bullshit here. Spiral is Spiraling outta control. Joining a damn Bot union im sorry but that is sad man. I hope all of you get what you deserve and not a bit less or more.

[Godzilla666]

So I'm still waiting for a very first legit guild
No bot programs (epic/spiral/vengeance understands by that that a program taking over control of your char)
No gold buying
No third aid support programs like zoom hack, non dc aid, etc. (tolerated and even more than that pushed by vengeance/epic/spiral/ managers and the other so said no botting guilds on Hera)

Is there actually any guild on Hera meeting those requirements. Don't think so. You are half botters half legits and all the grey zone between, and actually more botting than legit.

[TOloseGT]

um....no dc clients, zoom hacks etc aren't bots, rofl.

[bakafish]

So I'm still waiting for a very first legit guild
No bot programs (epic/spiral/vengeance understands by that that a program taking over control of your char)
No gold buying
No third aid support programs like zoom hack, non dc aid, etc. (tolerated and even more than that pushed by vengeance/epic/spiral/ managers and the other so said no botting guilds on Hera)

Is there actually any guild on Hera meeting those requirements. Don't think so. You are half botters half legits and all the grey zone between, and actually more botting than legit.

Proof?

[sirs1ayer]

So I'm still waiting for a very first legit guild
No bot programs (epic/spiral/vengeance understands by that that a program taking over control of your char)
No gold buying
No third aid support programs like zoom hack, non dc aid, etc. (tolerated and even more than that pushed by vengeance/epic/spiral/ managers and the other so said no botting guilds on Hera)

Is there actually any guild on Hera meeting those requirements. Don't think so. You are half botters half legits and all the grey zone between, and actually more botting than legit.

Big words for someone who has no idea what their talking about.
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[BloodOwnzzz]

Only 3 people are known to use No-DC and 2 have quit already... /cough

If there are anymore they haven't told anyone or are only known to people in game.

[IceCrash]

Dear IceCrash lal

i tried to speak very clear and without any abusive words but heey here we go again a kid who goes talk dirty oh man . u think ur words gona hit me ? Well my friend i hope u are happy with ur life . I am not ignorant tbh i m just saying cuz he starts flaming to other ppl what do u call this ? Please if u cant replay without flame just dont bother to replay IceCrash m8 i hope u understand what im saying but i guess not

my words alredy did hit you, since you replied back.
And dude, im not very happy with my life, but its all i can do atm , im waiting for somethings.
And yeah im replying without flaming, but you were the oen that wasnt reasonble first, you're the one tht flamed him first so yeap.
and i do try to understand what u mean, anything else?
k? bai?

[Calico]

Sorry but you should read a few signatures around here some of them stating" Legit is Legit there is no Farking gray area"--Which means that a bot union is a Farking BOT union Seriously Calico, think before you type some of that bullshit here. Spiral is Spiraling outta control. Joining a damn Bot union im sorry but that is sad man. I hope all of you get what you deserve and not a bit less or more.

Haha.. oh wow. I guess if it's in someones signature here, then it's like the word of a god? I'm not even sure I understood you 100%. Maybe if you didn't cram a bunch of useless words in there and at least made an attempt to make your posts readable, it would be easier on everyone.

Pretty sure the saying was by SuicideGrl, and it was: "A bot is a bot, there is no fcking grea area."

And that statement is truthful because a bot is a bot, end of. However, due to everyone having their own views on what a legit really is, I'm going to have to say that little thing you made up fails. There really is a huge grea area for what a "legit" is in this game. Does anyone really know? Nah. Everyone forms that opinion for themselves.

Is the majority of the guilds in Spiritus union bot guilds? Yes. 7/8. Spiral being that 1/8. Pretty sure everyones been over this and back. Try reading pretty much any thread in here buddy, you're just beating a dead horse.

@Godzilla:

Proof please. And as atmosphere(TOloseGT) said, a 3rd party program isn't always a bot. You may not consider it legit, and that's fine, but that doesn't make anyone a botter. And, the lovely thing about this forum is that you can get warned and then eventually banned if you continue to make these kinds of false statements with such lack of evidence. So, watch your mouth.

[Godzilla666]

Little screenshot taken on the vengeance forum. There are others players using that client and you know it very well Calico. If I remember well one of the administrators posted the link to the site where you can download the client giving non DC, zoom, allowing posting censored words, etc.

For me a player using that stuff is black, for others he's white. It just depends what you understand under the term "legit". Some guilds prohibit the use of those helping aids (like in the presentation of PureEntity) but I doubt that on Hera there is such a guild.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8602/proofmn0.jpg

[TOloseGT]

we can prohibit it all we want, but unless the person using it is stupid, we won't be able to do nething about it.

[IceCrash]

we can prohibit it all we want, but unless the person using it is stupid, we won't be able to do nething about it.

OMFG YOU SUSE NO DC CLIENT!????
BANNNNNNNNNNNNN MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!!
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

are you seriously? you know what? whatever, just go back to yer servers, do what the **** you want and leave us alone,if we aint legits for ya, we DONT GIVE a f u c k KAI!?
bai.

[salmissra]

lol yep. we are definitely still legit. i could've also used a nodc client but i know i personally would not have felt legit with it. but that's me

[Calico]

Little screenshot taken on the vengeance forum. There are others players using that client and you know it very well Calico. If I remember well one of the administrators posted the link to the site where you can download the client giving non DC, zoom, allowing posting censored words, etc.

For me a player using that stuff is black, for others he's white. It just depends what you understand under the term "legit". Some guilds prohibit the use of those helping aids (like in the presentation of PureEntity) but I doubt that on Hera there is such a guild.

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8602/proofmn0.jpg

Oh of course, and I'm sure if I wanted to I could head over to 'legit' heaven and find a good amount of people over there who use it as well.

By the way, that screenshot has nothing to do with Spiral or any of it's members.

A handgrinded character, is a handgrinded character. And that's where it ends for me.

[Godzilla666]

A guild allowing players using the non DC client isn't true legit for me. There is NO such legit guild on hera. There it ends for me. You call white what I call black ^^
Give me the name of a truly legit guild on Hera.

No bot program
No gold buying
No use of third programs (not even the ladder of rev6)
Not accepting levelling up by a bot
Not buying stuff from a stall of a bot
Not buying a taxi to level yourself up

[Calico]

A guild allowing players using the non DC client isn't true legit for me. There is NO such legit guild on hera.
There it ends for me.

Ok, bye.

(once again going to use this post to remind everyone, that the screenshot posted in no way had anything to do with Spiral *sigh*)

[Godzilla666]

Spiral loves botting guilds, that's all.
And Darkness is one of my MSN friends since Mars even if he bots. He's a nice fello. But I will never join the guild he is in as legit, he knows it, but still we have fun on MSN.

[Calico]

Spiral loves botting guilds, that's all.

Spoken by someone who has no idea what's going on or the intentions of Spiral's GM. Your lack of knowledge of the server, and of Spiral, is a disgrace.

You've made your point clear on where you stand about the whole 'pure entity' thing. I COULD choose to attack it, but I'm being nice about it. Why don't you just run along like all the others?

[Godzilla666]

Try to attack it. I play since more than 2 years, never used a bot, never bought gold, never relied on third helping program. I wait for the name of a "pure" legit guild, fully white. Spiral isn't. I know Darkness since too long. We are MSN friends since Mars.
Vengeance, Epic and the other guilds had 3rd program users and the admins knew it. They don't care if a player was botting or not before. At level 80 no player is botting any more. Take in level 80, or close to 80, no bots anymore. It is what you are doing since the start, instead of taking in people that submitted an application you take in higher levels that you meet during parties (scale, the peppers, ...)

[Calico]

Try to attack me. I play since more than 2 years, never used a bot, never bought gold, never relied on third helping programs.

Getting a bit edgy there eh? I never said attack you, I said "it".

It being the belief of a pure entity on Silkroad. Which, I choose to not even waste my time on. It sounds nice, and I wish it were true, but until you or anyone else can prove to me that any guild is a real pure entity, there isn't one in my eyes.

I'll let you in on a little secret, any guild that stands as a pure entity, is just one big question mark. Always will be. This is the internet. You can NOT prove that someone doesn't use a NoDC or any other kind of modified client that is player-side.

Going by word of mouth on the internet? Fail.

Innocent until proven guilty is all a Pure Entity on this game will ever be. And just how pure is that?

[Godzilla666]

Let's cool this down plse?
Legit isn't legit isn't legit isn't legit, it depends of the choices you make as player ^^
Some players are more legit than others, they see grey where someone else sees white.

I left the epic/vengeance guild on Hera, bcse it wasn't not legit enough, that's all. I just feel uneasy when you claim to be full legit. And Spiral isn't legit for me.

[Calico]

Let's cool this down plse?
Legit isn't legit isn't legit isn't legit, it depends of the choices you make as player ^^
Some players are more legit than others, they see grey where someone else sees white.

I left your guild on Hera, bcse it wasn't not legit enough, that's all.

Now you're getting it.. and that's why most choose to worry more about bots than third party programs that are player-side and can only be proven if that player gives themselves up.

Oh, and which guild is my guild? I never had one..

[Godzilla666]

I started up Epic bcse I was the only level 20 and appointed someome else guild master ...
You want me to post screenshots to show that you are wrong?

And about Spiral, you took on the 0x33 attitude. Part of their community. Tolerance for bots.

[Calico]

Look your MP, You'll see my char name on Hera and we know each other from a guild lolzzzz..
I started up Epic

Genocide started up Epic, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. If you're so pure, why can't you just tell me who you were? You shouldn't have anything to hide?