has all the info there for them.
I looted both of these at different times from the same blood death flower. freaky coincidence or what? :]
umm lesse, i put the +1 on both of them...
they're better then the Chok Sasan Silk series version as they are now, but not the Wi sasan silk series, unless you add another 2 +'s to each, then they will be :]
Looking at about 750k each