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Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:10 am
by bryanvan
So what build is like needed alot atm at Guards and all the way up to chasers?
I am still deciding what I should do with my build >< lolz
Re: Chasers
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:31 am
by foudre
for gaurds/ gens when i'm on its always tanks we are waiting for
but if you want to be int well every one is always lacking warlocks
alot of sub clerics for gaurds lvl, fewer bards, though its hard to tell its half way even cause alot of those sub clerics can't really cleric because their cleric skills aren't farmed enough
Re: Chasers
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:45 am
by bryanvan
Lol at chasers theres to many tanks all the time i heard.
And bards are pretty fun to do I think with those buffs and dances.
But then again a warlock seems funny to me also xD All those things...
( I am not starting a new char, just dlvling skills)
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:41 am
by bryanvan
2 options now :
1) Wiz/Cleric
2) Wiz/Bard
1st option i dont have to dlvl but I dont mind dlvling.
But at first option ill miss speed and noise but at 2nd option ill miss RD
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:34 pm
by Zero_Doom
Whenever I am playing we are always waiting on a GOOD cleric.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:43 pm
by Zanam
Locks Bards And Wizards. and sometimes Clerics
But mostly we need Battle Bards.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:56 pm
by Maxen
I've noticed quite a few threads with the same question bard or cleric as your sub, but your missing a third option. Why not stick with being a pure wizard for now?
I see the logic behind wanting to choose a sub now and have more skills to offer both solo and party wise, I myself changed my build twice before finding what was right for me, started off as a warlock/cleric switched to cleric/bard and finally settled cleric/wizard.
But the one thing I wouldn’t change is being a cleric, but that’s just my personal choice. Do I regret loosing noise and moving march, sure sometimes I wish I could move like the clappers and solo without fear of getting mobbed but I’m not a soloing person (least not with Euros).
What I’m saying you need to choose for yourself each has pros and cons but we don’t know what you like to do and basing it on what build is lacking party wise nowadays isn’t a wise thing imo.
But since wizard is a fixed choice in your mind just stick with that and leave your sub for later is my advice, better to be skilled at one thing

Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:42 pm
by Zanam
Maxen wrote:I've noticed quite a few threads with the same question bard or cleric as your sub, but your missing a third option. Why not stick with being a pure wizard for now?
I see the logic behind wanting to choose a sub now and have more skills to offer both solo and party wise, I myself changed my build twice before finding what was right for me, started off as a warlock/cleric switched to cleric/bard and finally settled cleric/wizard.
But the one thing I wouldn’t change is being a cleric, but that’s just my personal choice. Do I regret loosing noise and moving march, sure sometimes I wish I could move like the clappers and solo without fear of getting mobbed but I’m not a soloing person (least not with Euros).
What I’m saying you need to choose for yourself each has pros and cons but we don’t know what you like to do and basing it on what build is lacking party wise nowadays isn’t a wise thing imo.
But since wizard is a fixed choice in your mind just stick with that and leave your sub for later is my advice, better to be skilled at one thing

Should of stayed Lock cleric.
And uhh no get a 2nd Sub or ull find yourself waiting in line longer than me(im a tank)
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:53 pm
by Clam
I R battle bard
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:29 pm
by TheDrop
Zanam wrote:Locks Bards And Wizards. and sometimes Clerics
But mostly we need Battle Bards.
>,<
i dunno, but if you really want to be a wiz... stay with it lol. if your cleric is full farmed, u dont need bard (if u are good at cleric).
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:50 pm
by Blindfire
Now that I'm not playing my bard, everyone needs them. Talk about bad timing.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:02 pm
by bryanvan
Well I started off as Cleric/Warlock but deleted warlock at lvl 20 for wizz. Thought it be more usefull in pt play if i keep cleric my main and wizard as a sub so I could do some dmg.
Now I am Cleric/Wizard atm
Wizard at 42 FF
Cleric at 44 FF but masterie at 50
I've seen Guardia powerparty us and I really liked the high bard skills and speed etc.
And today NightMist powerpartyd us abit and he said he dlvld his Bard skills for cleric at he has cleric at lvl 67 now. And he did pretty good.
But ATM some ppl ¬¬ tell me i am slow in clericing... and bad. But I dunno :/
I've just partyd at yachas and it was nice to do bless now and then.
I think that when I solo I will miss Speed and noise. but I will also miss RD and holy word if i solo.... so i really dont have a clue.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:49 pm
by AkillerNXC
Well if your a bad cleric, you would be a bad bard. Sub won't matter, because at chasers wizards are desperately needed. So you'll be wizzing all the time anyways.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:15 pm
by bryanvan
Well some ppl just keep bitching about some ppl. I was Hcing 2 tanks then a ptg giants spawns i chat.. PTG and this wizard dies 1 hit and leaves and bitches about me blabla. And also if im beeing attacked for like a while by a few mobs i cant heal good either.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:28 pm
by Toasty
bryanvan wrote:Well some ppl just keep bitching about some ppl. I was Hcing 2 tanks then a ptg giants spawns i chat.. PTG and this wizard dies 1 hit and leaves and bitches about me blabla. And also if im beeing attacked for like a while by a few mobs i cant heal good either.
Keep people cycled (including yourself if your getting attacked), use division often, and have recovery / group recovery and maybe bless incase something bad happens. Thats your simple dumbies guide to clericing.
And if people die every so often it isnt a big deal, just res them quickly. The exp you lose isnt going to take long to get back (if it does.. then your tanks / wizzs are nubs aswell), well or unless your on a high gap but meh.. your farming.
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:35 pm
by bryanvan
Still havent decided ,... I got about 50 curst heart potions now...
My invent is getting pretty full ><
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:09 am
by foudre
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Zanam wrote:Locks Bards And Wizards. and sometimes Clerics
But mostly we need Battle Bards.
>,<
i dunno, but if you really want to be a wiz... stay with it lol. if your cleric is full farmed, u dont need bard (if u are good at cleric).
it still depends on your tanks, you may have to up your healing cause they don't know when it is too many mobs, and you can do nothing more then your max healing possible , xl pots dont' keep up, penons and below pots could keep up with me even in max heal, now they can't, if they make xl 2 and xl 3 then maybe
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:16 am
by carnage
for guards/gens ..dunno chaser
need wiz/bard ,if you are a good cleric stay sub cleric
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:30 am
by bryanvan
im going bard i think .... I think i will miss RD but if you solo you should 1 hit them
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:41 pm
by SidiousX
Wiz/Bard imo.
also get bard attacks, they are good to pwn wizards same lvl as u or a bit lower.. since u cast even faster than them.. and its good in party ofc and solo = noise so yuh...
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:10 pm
by bryanvan
I went bard now Dlvld cleric from 50 to 32 now.. gotta collect more curst hearts now. I refuse to buy more silk thingys bought 15 and id rather pay some gold then all silk......
Just can't find a 7d harp ¬¬ all so expensive
Re: Guards and UP
Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:52 pm
by WrathShielder
I will look around to see if there is a 7d harp laying around somewhere.
I will probably get a bard attack and I say "a" because I am sp thin. If I could only get one bard attack, what do you propose it should be.