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Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:35 pm
by bryanvan
I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...
And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.
I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)
So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.
EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:54 pm
by CloudStrider
bryanvan wrote:I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...
And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.
I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)
So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.
Hmmm, I was thinking about this.
I read something about Cleric is that good because even with it you'll won't be able to tank that much.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:19 pm
by Zanam
hes a wiz what kind of tanking will he be doing. If i was you id go bard. ull get into more parties.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:45 pm
by CloudStrider
WTH.
That is what I meant, Cleric helps warriors because it adds to their tank capability greatly, Wizards are not meant too, meaning even with buffs, they will not get that much more power rendering that sub not too good.
/spelled out'd
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:13 pm
by Guardia
Pt in venus came in waves. Those 5X's are already at 6Xs or even at chasers pt now. Either solo for now or wait till new waves coming. If you have to solo, go sub bard. That's what i did before.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:32 pm
by bryanvan
I don't wanna solo I can't tank shit 1 hit from penon and im dead. And I am not in the mood to wait for parties I outlvld every1 at sungs in less then 2 days i got from 36 to 46 in 2 days cuz of penon partys.
There are a few pegs PT's but not much...
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:30 pm
by bryanvan
EDITED POST***
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:26 pm
by Zanam
Right now the waves are at Mujigis and Guards.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:42 am
by Alfred
bryanvan wrote:EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.
F10 + S
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:44 am
by bryanvan
Alfred wrote:bryanvan wrote:EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.
F10 + S
?
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:05 am
by Alfred
Press F10 to check the price of the silk relocation potions. You get 5 in one stack.
Press S to calculate how many times you'll have to delevel.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:12 pm
by bryanvan
I'm lazy...
Anyway need some more opinions.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:34 pm
by Alfred
You call it lazy, I call it pathetic.
Take bard and you will be supporting MP
Take cleric and you will be supporting HP
Take bard and you will increase the attack and defense for the party
Take cleric and you will increase the attack and defense for the party
Take bard and you will have the 3 fastest nukes in game
Take cleric and you will have the highest hitting nuke in game
Both have absolute damage skills; cleric do more damage and bard has a shorter recast time
Cleric can protect you from bad statuses and both can heal them.
Bard: Speed, can unaggro mobs, prevent normal mobs from attacking yourself, make a target unable to move, etc...
Cleric: 3 different resurrection skills, 45 sec of being almost unkillable, make a target unable to move, etc...
There you go. Time to choose.

Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:52 pm
by bryanvan
Lool...
Ty ><
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:08 pm
by Alfred
Yw ><
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:14 pm
by KylieMinogue
i was thinking of moving to Venus, but then i realized, i have to farm if I'm wiz/bard.
my guess is gap 5 for that build. So............ at 30, my Noise level would still be only preemptive to level 30, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:47 pm
by Argonaut
KylieMinogue wrote:i was thinking of moving to Venus, but then i realized, i have to farm if I'm wiz/bard.
my guess is gap 5 for that build. So............ at 30, my Noise level would still be only preemptive to level 30, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME.
Well, farming isnt as hard as you think. Farming at chasers should go as fast as a plvl at ongs, and you also get 9d drops.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:13 pm
by bryanvan
Well there aren't always pt's xD I noticed that I only need 30k sp to max all bard skills to 50
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:41 pm
by Smoked
I think I've partied, powerpartied your parties several times. There are sometimes 2 full parties going at caves at this time. Bards are always needed as evidenced by some bards lacking in skill and having attention deficit disorders getting to 7x's extremely quickly but that's how the game works. A good cleric is always needed/wanted at pegs/guards right now. Lvl 44 is min for pegs (to guarentee not fail). You may have to slow down on your wiz masteries and bring your clerics up. Anyway most of the peg parties are centered around a decent cleric right now. Post the party and you never know who may show up to help.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:42 pm
by Mishiru
bryanvan wrote:I have a Cleric/Wizard lvl 50 atm full farmed. I was doing some solo lately cuz theres simply no single pt on venus T_T ...
And I noticed that I only use cleric in party's. I also noticed that a bard can get in partys quite sooner then normal ppl can and that noise +speed is great. I lacked speed alot when I was doing solo the other day.
I was planning to go Wizard/Cleric after 60 or 70 but now I am considering Bard... ( I dun care bout doing curst hearts)
So I just wanna know some pros and cons about both Bard & Cleric as sub for Wizard and some personal experience.
EDIT::: How much Silk will it cost me to dlvl Cleric from 44-10 or 0? All skills maxed till 44.
for solo bard
for pt cleric.
for cleric more sp
for bard less sp

Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:50 pm
by Smoked
bryanvan wrote:Well there aren't always pt's xD I noticed that I only need 30k sp to max all bard skills to 50
Just because it's not posted doesn't mean there aren't parties. Take the initiative to go to north and south secret and see who's on or make friends that are 5X's. There's a wave of low to mid 50's including bullrush, Rahvan, Neoxxxx(#'s but i dont care to memorize them), Whiff, Firetruck, ScarletWitch, AngeIus, Mummmmywiz, Nanssy, GothRickZ, Buchiboy. #1 way to get into parties, make some friends in your time zone. You'd be surprised how many pm's you'll get just logging on, especially if you establish yourself as a pro cleric.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 pm
by bryanvan
Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:21 pm
by Smoked
bryanvan wrote:Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt
You just changed your signature again so obviously you've been making exp quickly.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:11 pm
by Alfred
Mishiru wrote:[ for solo bard
for pt cleric.
no
for solo bard or cleric
for pt bard or cleric
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:27 am
by Blindfire
Personally, I would take bard. For one, there is a much better chance of you getting into parties since there are 5 spots that could be yours. (2 bard spots, 3 wizard spots).
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:58 am
by Kirkaldi
Wizard/Warlock FTW. It's epic but it's a sp eater.
Re: Wizard/(Cleric / Bard)
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:33 am
by bryanvan
Smoked wrote:bryanvan wrote:Yea :/ I know I lately logoff there and login next day to find/make pegs pt
You just changed your signature again so obviously you've been making exp quickly.
Ye

We got powerpartied by Mai
Kirkaldi wrote:Wizard/Warlock FTW. It's epic but it's a sp eater.
lol just lol