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1 = Level 1-5. Solo on Movia/Movio until level 5, get the inventory expansion quest, and finish it.





2 = Level 5-8. Continue on to higher level monsters. No Real "grind spot", just wander and kill. Meet up with guildies/friends and party together helps, but not essential.





3 = Level 8-10. First REAL party based spawn. Get together an 8 man party, and go for it.





4 = Level 10-13. Real HEAVY spawn area. Only go here if you have 2 tanks, and a really good party setup. You might die a few times, but thats where your sub clerics come in.





5 = Level 13-17. Good spawn, tight area, near Cerberus. Your ideal grinding spot. Watchout for knockdown though.





6 = Level 18-21. You've made it to Asia Minor! Now kill some crabs. Theres 2 good spawn points, if spawn 1 is crowded, go to spawn 2.





7 = Level 22-26. Closiers and Punishers, the first time you will fight a party giant. If one spawns, lure it onto the bridge and destroy it. Enjoy the 20% exp per ptg too.





8 = Level 27-29. Ongs. Good spawn, Bad status effects. Dont fight the ones with a Q over their head either, they stun and dont give good exp...





9 = Level 30-32. Huns are really good, constant spawn, and safe spots for the ints to stand in. Dont fight the archers, unless they wander by. Stay within the lancer spawns.





10 = Level 33-35. Sungsungs are really good. These will be the first mobs to really do some luring grinding. Get the tank to turn on iron skin, lure 10-15 of them, and come back. Cleric, only use healing cycle when he is luring, or else you will get aggroed and slaughtered. Once hes lured them, and the wizards killed all the non-party ones, there will only be party ones left. Then, you can use other heals. Save bless for lures too. Learn well from these, you will be spending most of your grinding as this style now. Old kill 1 monster move on is over.




11 = Level 36-38. I've never tried these, but heard they were good. If your up for it, give it a go. Watch out for their penetration damage though, especially from party giants. :huh:





12 = Level 39-40. Slow spawn, not constant at all. These are the HARDEST levels, every spawn sucks. You will have a tough time getting here. If this spawn doesnt work out, or when you start hitting 41, try SOUTH of Hotan on the spiders. This wont allow for full 8 person parties, but a small group of 4-6. Really bad spawn there too. Try hitting 42 as soon as you can to get out of here....





13 = Level 41-45. Finally, Mujigis. Good spawn, no aggro, smooth sailing. No party giants is a downside though. <_< Watch out, these guys will splash you to death too.





14 = Level 45-48. PENONS! No aggro except for champs/giants, good spawn, and back to luring! Get a tank bless spelled/iron skin, lure 10-15 of them, and splash! If a ptg spawns, get one tank to tank it, second to lure more if you can handle it. Easy leveling, pretty interesting too. Watch out for isy tho. :o





15 = Level 48-52. Yetis, good spawn, good grouping ability, pure phy. Try to get your wizards to 52 on these before attempting the caves.





16 = Level 50-52. Go here when you cant make a full yeti party. Slow spawn, slower killing, but good for when you have lower levels in your party that cant get in the cave yet at 50.







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17 = Level 52-55. Finally in the cave! These are the first mobs you should go to. Bugs do more dmg, less exp, and are just shitty to level on, skip them. Take a huge room, stay in the hall and lure at first, once your party gets adjusted, you can take the center and lure from all around. Your leveling speed will go super fast from now on, the hardest parts are over!





18 = Level 56-59. Once your wizards get their 56 staffs, go to these.You will be able to lure much more, kill faster and get 8d tabs/stones more often. Watch out for burn though.





19 = Level 60-63. I love this room. Small, easy to lure, good spawn. If you cant handle it inside, stand in the hall and lure. Watch out for stun, and as usual use iron skin when luring. I usually switch luring jobs each time, one warrior lures, 2nd protect ints and then switch so iron skin is recharged. By now, you'll be bored with the cave.





20 = Level 64-67. Once your wizards hit their 8d staffs, you can hit the bones. If you havent noticed by now, most of the monster changes are just as your wizards get their new weapons. This is a good policy to stick with, because you wont be whacking at stuff forever, and wont be killing stuff too fast.




21 = Level 68-80. Once you get your 68 staff, its time for generals! Your final mob, until the end of the game. These levels will go by fast, as you will dominate yarkan and get 10-15% every time. There are a few good spawns, try to stick by the places with less Generals, so you dont get stunned. If you are really interested in switching builds as a tank, this is the time you can. Double axes are good here, because of their anti-stun passive, combined with holy word. DONT FORGET to get Block onto your weapon, so these suckers dont block your nukes.






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That is nice.

Feataler wrote:Wrong forum

I asked him to post here, simply to try to motivate new comin legits to party, and also to know how to do it

this isnt just good for newbies, its quite helpful to higher lvl players too. grtz avalon.

very nice little spots thx very useful for my rogue

If only there were people at my level to grind with..

Very usefull
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And what for level 80+ mobs? :p

only real partied 80+ are the chasers at Eye peak or at Claw peak but Eye peak has a better spawn

Ramidux wrote:And what for level 80+ mobs? :p

lol honestly - by then you know how to play xD find a spot with good exp and dig in

thnx . will be helpful when im are party playing

vnice and useful@!

skip maong go to level 47 golden spiders

and i didnt even go to mujigi but if you are top of the bridge ftw

but you can go golden spiders to penon quite easy

i have a problem with this thread - namely most of the mobs the party is getting sent to seems more like a soloing expedition than a working euro party

i mean 33-35 at sungs? which are 37? kidding right? could easily go there at 27 and live


overall i think it is directing parties capable of killing higher mobs and getting more exp to low extremely "safe" areas - sure you might die once or twice at the higher mobs but the amount of exp you get in return is worth it

i personally think that if there is a mob with a good spawn rate 9 levels over you go for it (hell i'd even go to 11 levels over you - but youd need a good party to pull that off)

and another thing screw maongs - spawned all over the place; go to gold spiders

You have to remember tedo that you don't get your best party buffs until 40, so you can't go as gun-ho into situations then as you could now.

we were there when we were leveling i was at sung at 27 helping out

i went to sungs at 27 o.O and ive very rarely grinded on a mob in a party less than 10 levels over me since then o.O and that was due more to the restraints of what parties were available at the time than anything else - often a times once the pt filled up we moved up to a higher mob anyway (well generals was an exception but thats because the monsters capped and now same with wings and rockies)

it is nice but sometimes u can go earlier to those mobs already

tedo wrote:i have a problem with this thread - namely most of the mobs the party is getting sent to seems more like a soloing expedition than a working euro party

i mean 33-35 at sungs? which are 37? kidding right? could easily go there at 27 and live


overall i think it is directing parties capable of killing higher mobs and getting more exp to low extremely "safe" areas - sure you might die once or twice at the higher mobs but the amount of exp you get in return is worth it

i personally think that if there is a mob with a good spawn rate 9 levels over you go for it (hell i'd even go to 11 levels over you - but youd need a good party to pull that off)

and another thing screw maongs - spawned all over the place; go to gold spiders

well ya agreed. i nvr went to huns, just went straight to sungs. anyway, i think golden spiders have better spawns than maongs. maongs are pretty bad xD

You guys gotta listen to yourselves for a minute. I'm gonna summarize the advice I'm getting:

Grind at least 10+ levels higher than you.

Grind at sungs (37-38) when you're lvl 27 but definitely not when you're 3x because they are way too low for you.

Don't grind at Golems b/c of range and aoe.
Don't grind at Maongs b/c of bad spawn rate.
Don't grind at Bunwangs b/c of bad spawn rate.

Go straight to Spiders (47-48).

Can you see where someone who's 31-34 would be a little confused by this?

non ego man wrote:You guys gotta listen to yourselves for a minute. I'm gonna summarize the advice I'm getting:

Grind at least 10+ levels higher than you.

Grind at sungs (37-38) when you're lvl 27 but definitely not when you're 3x because they are way too low for you.

Don't grind at Golems b/c of range and aoe.
Don't grind at Maongs b/c of bad spawn rate.
Don't grind at Bunwangs b/c of bad spawn rate.

Go straight to Spiders (47-48).

Can you see where someone who's 31-34 would be a little confused by this?

nono, by all means stay there longer until you can move to the next good mob; just saying you can start at them sooner than the posted level was

tedo wrote:i mean 33-35 at sungs? which are 37? kidding right? could easily go there at 27 and live

Ah, gotcha. I read that as saying you shouldn't be there at 33-35. What you're saying is that you should be there from around 27 until around 37, at which point you should move to Spiders. Is this the consensus opinion then? Sounds good to me. We handled Bunwangs yesterday without much problem, even with a PTG, but the low spawn rate was a factor in helping us stay alive.

non ego man wrote:

tedo wrote:i mean 33-35 at sungs? which are 37? kidding right? could easily go there at 27 and live

Ah, gotcha. I read that as saying you shouldn't be there at 33-35. What you're saying is that you should be there from around 27 until around 37, at which point you should move to Spiders. Is this the consensus opinion then? Sounds good to me. We handled Bunwangs yesterday without much problem, even with a PTG, but the low spawn rate was a factor in helping us stay alive.

right; i mean you can stay at the mobs until they are even under your level if there is no good mob to move to or no party at said mob; but starting at a lvl 37 mob at lvl 33 just seems too late imo - and as someone said as you get higher level and get better buffs the easier partying and mobs way over your level will be

one thing id like to point out is - that if you get into parties that are challenging early on (aka high mobs) you will struggle to do your job right for a bit knowing that it can be done; which will train you to use your character under hard conditions and it will make you better for it - and when you get higher and the skills make it easier; your grinding will be as effective as factory operation

[quote="tedo]nono, by all means stay there longer until you can move to the next good mob; just saying you can start at them sooner than the posted level was[/quote]


Of course you can start them sooner. You could kill a Niya General at lvl 40 if you tried hard enough. Thats not the point. The point is getting the most exp/second, and going there at lvl 27 will just be stupid.

one thing id like to point out is - that if you get into parties that are challenging early on (aka high mobs) you will struggle to do your job right for a bit knowing that it can be done; which will train you to use your character under hard conditions and it will make you better for it - and when you get higher and the skills make it easier; your grinding will be as effective as factory operation

This is so true, I remember early on, most of the lower levels parties were very quiet, not a lot of chat outside of buff request and "ptg". Now those same people at higher level mobs, I see posting in union, guild and party, while talking in vent and doing god knows what else and yet, there is no drop in their competency playing their chr. I myself usually have the TV on, talking in vent, and guild chat while cycling and attacking (thank god for mana breeze when I slip up)

ThisIsAvalon wrote:[

i never said the ENTIRE party has to be 27 - in fact its very rare that everyone is the same level - always have those who are higher - i said 27 is like a minimum to join it

but think about it - lets say there are a bunch of 3x at sungs right? and a lvl 27 bard wants to join WHY THE HELL NOT? or wiz?

what i am trying to get the new wave away from - is playing it so safe that they dont know how to use their build in sticky situations - if you start out with a tough spot - it makes you think and improve; hard work man - thats how you get good, the easy way out never helps anyone

if you get a lvl 40 tank, tanking at sungs; theyre never gonna learn to use vital as an example
its a general idea man - not a strict rule

THAT is what im trying to get across - the "im too low" quote - lvl 30 saying about sungs for example etc

When i read all treads i just went to venus, and look!, got a nice "souvenir"



Whatevur, if i wanna get in venus again, maybe i will search a guild with lvl 1x 2x characters ¬¬"

well we're at sungs right now, and they're great ... but it's best if your warriors are 30+ so they can get physical fence ... we've been partying with 1 cleric, 1 bard, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 2 warriors, 1 rogue, and we've been doing great - very few deaths, and almost everybody levels at least once in the 2-3 hours that we're out there.

everybody kept telling us to go to sungs when we were under 30, and that's just NOT a good idea, because you just don't have the skills to keep up. but yes, it is possible for somebody 26-ish to be in a sungs party (preferrably a strength character- ints tend to get 1 shotted).

<3 you keen.

Hmm, has anyone tried out the Red eyed/Dark eye ghosts? With the recent bot bans, I don't think anyone would be there, the spawn is amazing as well...just a short run from hotan...