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Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:56 am
by iscared
Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:32 am
by REBD
Because most of the high level players are racist and egoistical. They all think that because they are euro they cannot solo and you with your chinese can. Same goes for rogues that do not fit into the perfect party they try to create.
Yes chinese and even euros can both solo but then the xp is low. A good party CAN be good with a good player playing chinese or rogue.
*sitting and awaiting flames from the said high leveled players*
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:39 pm
by luvmangamaniac
iscared wrote:Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, Sanjou, Nigi and Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:25 pm
by Shin'kensei
I'm playing a chinese character on Venus right now. Farming at the bandit den =] I guess most people don't have the patience of grinding chinese, it's a lot of training you go thro to play one.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:09 pm
by Axie
If your Chinese you can pretty much forget about joining parties until 85+ unless you have rly good friends to party with otherwise have fun soloing
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:14 pm
by Junsai
Chinese nukers can party. People just don't want them because they bring down the exp. >_>
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:52 pm
by iscared
luvmangamaniac wrote:iscared wrote:Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
I will be one of those high lvl legit chinese people one day
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:00 pm
by Nocturjo
luvmangamaniac wrote:iscared wrote:Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
You forgot Sanjou (lv80 s/s nuker, whos in Asylum)
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:09 pm
by Ningyotsukai-san
Euros lvl faster and do better together because they're more suited towards teamwork, whereas Chinese are those "lone wolf" type of thing.
High emphasis on the "teamwork" part
Nocturjo wrote:You forgot Sanjou (lv80 s/s nuker, whos in Asylum)
Wouldn't expect many people to know me lol...don't play that char much anymore and I'm not much of a social person.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:24 pm
by PureStr
Axie wrote:have fun soloing
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:36 pm
by Junsai
Chinese would level faster in parties versus solo as well.
I beleive that the exp damange isn't so great to not allow legit chins a chance to level at a good rate like their european friends.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:24 pm
by TheDrop
Nocturjo wrote:luvmangamaniac wrote:iscared wrote:Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
You forgot Sanjou (lv80 s/s nuker, whos in Asylum)
and Nigi o.O
Wouldn't expect many people to know me lol...don't play that char much anymore and I'm not much of a social person.
well play it then and get to 90 and rape people's ass's
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:55 pm
by [SD]Master_Wong
luvmangamaniac wrote:iscared wrote:Why is everyone on Venus a european character? Chn is fun you get force skills and you have 1 sec pot delay
well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
nigi not legit then?
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:20 am
by Goobronicus
luvmangamaniac wrote:well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and
Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
Check your sources. Mai was botted to what, 5x/6x? Then went legit to cap.
And ya, add Nigi to that list, dude grinded his ass off and doesn't get mentioned
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:06 am
by Kirkaldi
Goobronicus wrote:luvmangamaniac wrote:well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and
Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
Check your sources. Mai was botted to what, 5x/6x? Then went legit to cap.
And ya, add Nigi to that list, dude grinded his ass off and doesn't get mentioned
rly? i didnt know that... oh and i <3 nigi
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:11 am
by HarshCargo
Goobronicus wrote:luvmangamaniac wrote:well only few people are china because of the fast european party system. chinese lvl kinda slow and are discriminated from european parties unfortunately. there are only 3 high lvl legit chinese people: CaitSidhe, Z3rgling, and
Mai. i think once my wizard is capped ill make a glaiver
Check your sources. Mai was botted to what, 5x/6x? Then went legit to cap.
And ya, add Nigi to that list, dude grinded his ass off and doesn't get mentioned
Prove?
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:23 am
by Goobronicus
Nightbloom and Fly admitted that Mai botted to that level. Ask them yourself. Apparently the reason Mai got to stay was because he was already 7x when it got out that they had botted and didn't want to have Mai have to start over (and Mai probably would of quit if they would of had to). Search for yourself
everyone that's been on the server for 6+ months knows what I said is true.
Grandfather clause?? <shrug>
Added this edit for your liking
: Ignore the Mai comment if ya want, the issue has been discussed sooooo many times that everyone stopped caring. Fact is, Mai is considered legit but is known to have botted. And I don't play my Venus char anymore, so I don't want to get into a big facking battle about it lol. I also can't use the "search" function on IGL and i'm not sifting through 40+ pages of dungeon.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:25 am
by luvmangamaniac
o sorry guys >.< its just those 3 come un mind, sorry if i offended anyone lol
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:57 am
by mike2007
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Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:34 am
by Nawps
Theres tons of Chinese.. but they are 80% botters xD
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:52 am
by Corrupt
Mai used to be a botter on other servers, said he was going bot or did a few times on Venus when he joined in 5x. We accepted him cause he was going to go legit and that was a bonus at that point in time in the server. We turned a botter legit. That's what I semi know.
Not once was he ever caught by anyone before and after so it's just word of mouth from there. All I heard was he was planning on botting passed 60 since 5x is easy to grind to....Decisions were made on a server not even 3 weeks old.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:43 am
by Ningyotsukai-san
UnbeatableDevil wrote: well play it then and get to 90 and rape people's ass's
Thinking about going back to my nuker, since 100 cap was announced lol...
and yea, people forget about Nigi >.<''
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:58 pm
by PR0METHEUS
My wife's a Glaiver, but she's highly inactive right now, just as I am. I have a blader, but he's only lvl 7...
I miss being a blader.
Once I get my new system built and running, I'm hoping to start playing again. We'll see.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:07 pm
by wilobix
Talking about chinese chars and pts 8/8. Sometimes they can be really useful and not a lack for the pt. I remember Mai in a few pts in chasers and his damage was ok, didn't need buffs for survive and mai had the plus of the force tree in his build, so party giants were debuffed by him and that helped a lot.
It's always a question of knowing how to adapt different builds to a teamwork.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:23 pm
by SidiousX
Hurray i am remembered by some peoplez
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:12 am
by Barotix
pfft, Chinese characters are so 2007.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:17 am
by Toasty
SidiousX wrote:Hurray i am remembered by some peoplez
Aww.. but you gave up on a cool char. Naughty!
*Oh.. and your sword / shield always looked crap.. i told you to +7. People woulda remembered you more then.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:37 pm
by Spanktastik
REBD wrote:Because most of the high level players are racist and egoistical. They all think that because they are euro they cannot solo and you with your chinese can. Same goes for rogues that do not fit into the perfect party they try to create.
Yes chinese and even euros can both solo but then the xp is low. A good party CAN be good with a good player playing chinese or rogue.
*sitting and awaiting flames from the said high leveled players*
Chinese in a euro party lowers XP/SP. No one wants to trade XP/SP for a couple k nukes or lame lures. Give us a chinese that can do the same or better job that a euro can, and we just might take you.
Bows can lure, but they cannot buff like a warrior. Rogues can lure betetr than chinese when a warrior isnt present. Wizards out-damage and out-AOE any chinese nuker. A cleric can heal MP way better than anyone with the force skill tree. Chinese have no bard-type skills at all. They have no party buffs, no 8-target party skills, nothing... all of their skills target themselves (perfect for solo, dontcha think?)
Xbows are used in high level parties. Ask beaver, saettia, etc. Not all the time, but they are used and they do a much better job at luring than bowers or bladers.
I'm high level and I solo. A lot actually. As do many other people in the confed.
I'm high level and I wasnt flaming you... I was stating facts about the chinese/euro discussion. It IS possible to chat in SRF without flaming each other (contrary to popular belief)
The fact that you have such a negative view on high level players bothers me though... why do you dislike the ones that created a legit-dominated server for you and your friends and guildmates? The people who are high level are the ones doing the bot traps, protecting legits from bots at south gate, and defending the fortress so Fly has enough gold to hand out and level up your guilds and unions. If/when you become a high level, you will have the power to kill bots and be great... and the well deserved "ego" that comes with it. Maybe you will be an asshole like Asy (gotta love him <3) or maybe youll be loved by everyone like LemonKiss. Either way, you will know that you are part of the biggest and baddest thing to ever hit iSRO and you will be damn proud to show off that fact.
So get off your high horse and stop being both ignorant and selfish.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:54 pm
by Alfred
Spanktastik wrote:No one wants to trade XP/SP for a couple k nukes or lame lures.
Some of us don't mind doing that.
Re: Why is there like no Chn characters/
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:17 pm
by PR0METHEUS
Spanktastik wrote:Chinese in a euro party lowers XP/SP. No one wants to trade XP/SP for a couple k nukes or lame lures.
For many of us, this game isn't about getting the most XP/SP you can possibly get per hour. It's about having fun. For many of us, we can have fun without making the absolute most efficient use of our XP/SP gain potential.
Spanktastik wrote:I'm high level and I solo. A lot actually. As do many other people in the confed.
I'm low level rogue/bard in the confed (only lvl 3x) and I solo ALL the time.
Spanktastic wrote:The fact that you have such a negative view on high level players bothers me though... why do you dislike the ones that created a legit-dominated server for you and your friends and guildmates?
Perhaps some of the problem with certain high levels (not directed at you Spank) is their attitudes. Some act like they're all great because they created this legit environment, which is a good thing to create... but then they start the whole "no chinese in our party, only party with the best... the perfect EURO party!! HOOOAAH! Instead of creating this environment, and then playing along with other, perhaps lower level, players who just happen to be chinese, or happen to not have a powerful build. Of course not all high levels are like that. I just find it funny/sad how some high levels refuse to play with another player just because of their build, or their in-game race.