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Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:55 pm
by Ploxy
Which build is needed(at pts)? at lvls 4x,5x,6x :?:

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:09 pm
by Tasdik
Tankers

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:19 pm
by Zero_Doom
Cleric's too.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:33 pm
by REBD
I have to agree about clerics, most people use cleric as a sub. We need more pure/main clerics.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:40 pm
by boast
anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:49 pm
by Tasdik
boast wrote:anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main


Luls, There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:50 pm
by sheeplol6
yeah pure clerics are hard to find.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:56 pm
by Ploxy
I don't like cleric as a main class.. it's pretty boring..

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:52 pm
by Zero_Doom
I find Clericing relaxing, when compared with Warlocking. I would rather lock though. xP

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:57 pm
by shadowrunner
Tasdik wrote:There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.


depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:59 pm
by REBD
shadowrunner wrote:
Tasdik wrote:There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.


depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:19 pm
by Zero_Doom
REBD wrote:
shadowrunner wrote:
Tasdik wrote:There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.


depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:22 pm
by REBD
Zero_Doom wrote:
REBD wrote:And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:44 pm
by boast
REBD wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:
REBD wrote:And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid


a wizard would only need noise and march. why would they waste sp on more things if they need it for wiz skills?

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:55 pm
by Zero_Doom
REBD wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:
REBD wrote:And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

So you would say that someone who plays a pure build with no sub even more stupid, right?

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:39 pm
by Panu
im a bard ... but there are rarely any guards.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:23 pm
by thechampion80
boast wrote:anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main


what's wrong with rogues :roll:

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:04 am
by REBD
Zero_Doom wrote:
REBD wrote:
Zero_Doom wrote:[
I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

So you would say that someone who plays a pure build with no sub even more stupid, right?

of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:20 am
by shadowrunner
REBD wrote:]
of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.


wizards use their most mp-consuming spells only when they are in a pt or plvl - and there you have bards to heal it. when a wizard is soloing mp pots are enough, and mana cycling yourself is just too troublesome.

but still bard sub needs very little sp to make it useful in a pt. you can even go investing only in moving march, mana cycle and guard tambour, dance of magic and hit march.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:06 am
by REBD
shadowrunner wrote:
REBD wrote:]
of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.


wizards use their most mp-consuming spells only when they are in a pt or plvl - and there you have bards to heal it. when a wizard is soloing mp pots are enough, and mana cycling yourself is just too troublesome.

but still bard sub needs very little sp to make it useful in a pt. you can even go investing only in moving march, mana cycle and guard tambour, dance of magic and hit march.

this is what I think as well

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:57 pm
by iseedeadpeople
Come call me anyone who needs a pure cleric :P

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:53 pm
by Blindfire
shadowrunner wrote:PEGS and Guards lack bards.



Hehe.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:36 am
by Kyau
boast wrote:anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main


What you have against rogues ??

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:38 am
by Panu
There is a serious issue with lacking bards

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:09 pm
by Ploxy
_Panu_ wrote:There is a serious issue with lacking bards

allready made a warrior/cleric, I hope I will like this build.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:09 pm
by AkillerNXC
Nooooooooooooooo. WE DONT NEED BARDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Once everyone gets to chaser's we're going to have 3million bards and nothing else. >_<

Warriors are needed on every single mob up until chasers. Cleric's are needed as well.

Re: Which euro build is needed at venus?

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:01 pm
by HealingOrbit
AkillerNXC wrote:Warriors are needed on every single mob up until chasers. Cleric's are needed as well.