Which euro build is needed at venus?

[Ploxy]

Which build is needed(at pts)? at lvls 4x,5x,6x

[Tasdik]

Tankers

[Zero_Doom]

Cleric's too.

[REBD]

I have to agree about clerics, most people use cleric as a sub. We need more pure/main clerics.

[boast]

anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main

[Tasdik]

anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main

Luls, There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.

[sheeplol6]

yeah pure clerics are hard to find.

[Ploxy]

I don't like cleric as a main class.. it's pretty boring..

[Zero_Doom]

I find Clericing relaxing, when compared with Warlocking. I would rather lock though. xP

[shadowrunner]

There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.

depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

[REBD]

There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.

depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

[Zero_Doom]

There's a ton of bards. Or wizzy's with bard subs.

depends on what lvl. PEGS and Guards lack bards. no bards at all. I haven't played my wiz main for ages, because I'm barding all the time.

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

[REBD]

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

[boast]

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

a wizard would only need noise and march. why would they waste sp on more things if they need it for wiz skills?

[Zero_Doom]

And some bard subs have only the name of bard, met a bard sub today with only moving march, that is uber stupid

I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

So you would say that someone who plays a pure build with no sub even more stupid, right?

[Panu]

im a bard ... but there are rarely any guards.

[thechampion80]

anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main

what's wrong with rogues

[REBD]

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I disagree. A subclass is not meant to be fully farmed. I have a cleric subclass, but is in no way farmed enough to cleric in my parties. I don't care to farm up sp for buffs or all the healing skills. The ones that I use in pvp are farmed enough to be used in pvp, but other then that, I am useless as anything more then a backup cleric in a party while the main is either dced or dead. xP

There is a difference between a fully farmed subclass and a Wizzard/Bard that has only moving march from bard. the first is a very cool the second is extremely stupid

So you would say that someone who plays a pure build with no sub even more stupid, right?

of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.

[shadowrunner]

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of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.

wizards use their most mp-consuming spells only when they are in a pt or plvl - and there you have bards to heal it. when a wizard is soloing mp pots are enough, and mana cycling yourself is just too troublesome.

but still bard sub needs very little sp to make it useful in a pt. you can even go investing only in moving march, mana cycle and guard tambour, dance of magic and hit march.

[REBD]

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of course not, but if you use your sp to level bard sub why not invest in the mana recovery skill ? You are a wizard you can empty your mana in 1min flat. That is my opinion of course.

wizards use their most mp-consuming spells only when they are in a pt or plvl - and there you have bards to heal it. when a wizard is soloing mp pots are enough, and mana cycling yourself is just too troublesome.

but still bard sub needs very little sp to make it useful in a pt. you can even go investing only in moving march, mana cycle and guard tambour, dance of magic and hit march.

this is what I think as well

[iseedeadpeople]

Come call me anyone who needs a pure cleric

[Blindfire]

PEGS and Guards lack bards.

Hehe.

[Kyau]

anything but a rogue!

+2 cleric main
+1 bard main

What you have against rogues ??

[Panu]

There is a serious issue with lacking bards

[Ploxy]

There is a serious issue with lacking bards

allready made a warrior/cleric, I hope I will like this build.

[AkillerNXC]

Nooooooooooooooo. WE DONT NEED BARDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

Once everyone gets to chaser's we're going to have 3million bards and nothing else. >_<

Warriors are needed on every single mob up until chasers. Cleric's are needed as well.

[HealingOrbit]

Warriors are needed on every single mob up until chasers. Cleric's are needed as well.