The Alternative to the "Confederation"

[caseyd4]

Ok so I have formed my own guild laughed at by many respected by few, But I believe im fighting a worthy cause here.

I offer a Legit Alternative to the Confederation, The Guild "PeaceKeepers".

The reason all with my own dis-agreements about certain rules, I have found many that agree that the rules for many legits are far too right wing. This is not to say you are allowed to bot or Buy Gold.
Your are not.
What PeaceKeepers hopes to offer, is a friendly guild where Fun is once again found in the game. Euro and Chinese Characters are all welcome. In the event, where we have enough members WE would compete in the Fortress war and I already am extremley active in jobbing others would be promoted to do so.


I would like the Guilds of Confederation to act respectively, as I have already shown my respect for themselves. Any Disrespectful comments I will ask to have removed.

The Guild has two simple Rules;
DO NOT BOT.
DO NOT BUY GOLD FROM BOTTERS.
Punishment for either is immediate expulsion.

[Argonaut]

And what would this alternative's stance be on:

1. No botting or any other third-party program use, including any programs that control your character's in-game actions.

2. No client or P2K editing, including:

- No loaders
- No no-dc clients
- No invisibility reveal
- No size increase
- No Zoomhack.
- No word filter edits.

3. No partying with bots (except for CTF and distribution (4/4) parties), including:

- No powerleveling (either giving or receiving).
- No grind parties.
- No job parties.
- No unique-hunt parties.

4. No buying gold, gear or characters with real-life currency.

5. No selling astrals or immortals or other item-mall transferable items to bots for gold.

[caseyd4]

You have 5 rules I have 2. As Simple as that, Do not drag this into a discussion. Your point is made.

[Norain_]

So you are standing somewhere inbetween? letting legits party with bots? Thats not really helping what the legits have trying to do on this server.

[Argonaut]

You have 5 rules I have 2. As Simple as that, Do not drag this into a discussion. Your point is made.

I haven't even made a point. If I wanted to make a point, I would bot an account to 90, plvl an alt with that bot char to 90, and then join your legit alternative with the plvled char. THAT would be making a point.

[AngelEyes]

Your two rules state your stance on the rules omitted from your listing, meaning you will allow bot plvl's and pk2 hacks like the invis hack. That pretty much means your guild will not be whitelisted, which means you will not be allowed to party with those on the whitelist.

Enjoy soloing, good luck with the guild.

[Zero_Doom]

Yea, the problem with that is that no matter what your rules are, if you have any desire to be whitelisted, you have to follow our rules. Thats just the way it is. As far as the FW and jobbing are concerned, thats part of the game. Why be involved in that if you won't be competitive? As a legit thief, I invite all to join me jobbing, and as an Avalonian, I invite all to bring it to the FW. The problem is that either everyone is helping Avalon, or the fact that the Fort wont fall from Avalon has been so drilled into everyone's skulls that they don't try. xP

Good luck with your guild though. It may get lonely if you don't submit to the confederate rules though. xP

[greeneye]

Though some of us may think that the requirements to be considered legit in Venus may be too extreme, and I for one am guilty of that, I admit that this is the reason why the legit community in Venus is prospering. Any deviation from what is now considered the norm is not good for Venus as a whole. And yea partying or powerleveling with bots would just make them think we're condoning what they do...and that is not a good thing imho...

[Spanktastik]

So if im in your guild...

I can come home from work
Start my loader
Get plvled by a bot on one client
Kill some invis rogues and wizards at samarkand on the other
Then afterwards buy some gold from a non-bot friend
Buy some silk for a bot friend
Be a bots friend
All while chat spamming "FUCK" in hotan

...and not get banned? I dont think thats what legit is being all about. I think you should stick to the book. Its nice youre trying to make other users happy... but if theyre not already happy on venus, they would go back to their old server with their capped characters and wads of gold.

Everyone else needs to stop being douchebags. you wanted to try something new. Thats what Fly did and look what happened.

[caseyd4]

What is your problem, Stop Posting if you are not Interested.

I, will worry about how hard it is going to be for me. You stop wasting your time.

BTW Wasnt one of the Great Avalonians banned for using his Bot char to level himself, Give me a break. People who power level dont play the game and have no interest in the game.

There is no benefit for a botter to join my guild as there is no Financial benefit, or hugeg guild storage that can be used.

Level 1 Guild,


Now Folks I ask you nicely, I do not post in the other recruitment threads.
Please have some respect and move on.

[[SD]Kratos]

<<no-MasterKojito>>

[non ego man]

...the rules for many legits are far too right wing...

I will never understand how, by simply playing this game the way it was intended to be played, I can be considered a "right wing" (your words) or Nazi/fascist (other's words). The "definition of legit" means just playing this game the way it was meant to be played, without hacking or programming or using exploits. The success of Venus is a testament to the fact that many players actually want to play this way. They enjoy this game the way it is. By not following the legit rules, you're just collecting a group of people who think "whah whah whah...this game is too hard to play if my opponent goes invisible...whah whah whah...I need to cheat in order to have fun...whah whah whah." Good luck with that.

[AngelEyes]

What is your problem, Stop Posting if you are not Interested.

I, will worry about how hard it is going to be for me. You stop wasting your time.

BTW Wasnt one of the Great Avalonians banned for using his Bot char to level himself, Give me a break. People who power level dont play the game and have no interest in the game.

There is no benefit for a botter to join my guild as there is no Financial benefit, or hugeg guild storage that can be used.

Level 1 Guild,


Now Folks I ask you nicely, I do not post in the other recruitment threads.
Please have some respect and move on.

We'll keep posting because we don't appreciate you trying to undermine what real legits are trying to do here by creating another option that allows cheating. Anyone that looks at this thread and thinks about joining your guild should be well aware that they are not going to have an enjoyable time on Venus because they are cheating at this game.

[hitokiri]

Casey, you should say how you feel about the other rules. Maybe bring up why you disagree with them. I dont know how much good it will do, but it will possibly give you better results then just listing 2 rules and kind of refusing to go into more detail.

[Dou]

<<no-MasterKojito>>

[JKMB]

Its a nice idea in theory, but I think mabye it would be a wiser choice if you just tried to amend the Confederations constistion (as it were) instead of trying to set up a full blown alternative, there is really no gray area here im afriad :/
EDIT: Even if this did work, you would be bought into conflict with the confederation time after time, and the only people who would join you would be bots, who you wont allow to join you, I just dont think the server is big enough or has enough people for 2 "empires".

[Clam]

pathetic, your viewed as bots now that your bots and we cant pt with you, you will see why this rule was put in

[t0rch]

I offer a Legit Alternative to the Confederation, The Guild "PeaceKeepers".

I sincerely hope that was a mistake of words, else you get the **** out of venus. The confederation may have its flaws to few, but to the rest of the legit community it's perfectly fine. Leave a working system alone please.

[Toasty]

Eh.. it'll be interesting to see what kind of people join his guild.

[foudre]

oh oh, you need to make a snazy name like United Half Legits of Venus (UHLV), or the League of Extraordinary Dumbasses (LED)

If you had added a few more rules i'd understand cause alot of the confederation are over zealous, but it sounds like you want to use a loader and give bot plvls and still want to call yourself legit, cheating by proxy is the same thing, invis hack to me is worse then botting cause its directly cheating against other players. You want to cheat directly against other players, and uslify their class in jobbing from the sounds of it.

[caseyd4]

I do not Cheat, Use a loader premote Cheating in anyway. Infact I have helped more Legits than anything else, Peoples names cant be mentioned as I am not White Listed.

We already went through the whole what I dis agree about I posted 5 times and got close to 50 flames attacking me.


I dont see whats your problem, I am not Going to undermine anything.. What is it your so worried about. I do not premote botting, END OF.


I promote a friendly and respectful guild, Which reading many replies to this I see many of you Fail.

You can keep posting and flaming as you wish, just like your heavy handed approach to this game it will get you know where, My thread on top.



I am not going to argue with the Confederation, I made my views clear and was castigated for them. Everyone knows I do not use any loaders, Bot or PowerLevel.

I also know that there are mature enough people out there that can be legit on the same level as me.. Who may wish to remain friends with other people who see a different side to the game. They are not discouraged to do so, we are not botters. We are not out to kill anyone in a war, we are definitly not out to personally insult and attack people. We are here to enjoy and play this Game, we are PEACEKEEPERS

Thank you for reading.

[Zeela12]

This thread saves us the trouble from manually blacklisting a guild.

[non ego man]

You're sounding very shrill and defensive. In various ways, all that is being asked of you is to explain why your guild doesn't have a policy against various hacks and exploits and why you think it is okay to be powerleveled by bots.

For instance, most legits believe invisibility reveal to be a cheat. Why do you think it is okay to use this hack and still call yourself legit?

[Snowie]

Do this in another server, Venus got it's Confederation we don't need another half assed one.

~snow

[foudre]

Go save Eos while you still can, sorry if i was rude but, you have no rules against these cheats even if you dont' use them yourself you will allow your members to do so?

[Shazam!]

You offer a legit alternative to being legit, that, by a matter of fact, is not legit according to Venus Confederation rules? Sounds sorta pointless, doesn't it?

You think the way the Confederation runs the game won't get us anywhere? Maybe you should log in to the game first. Compare Venus to any other server there is. You might find some differences that will proof you wrong.

I doubt this will lead us anywhere, judging from what you have posted so far. I'll just repeat what others have already written: Put your ehad back into the a$$ you just pulled it out of to find the posting formular and leave the server. If you are not going to join the Confederation, you will be on the same level any random bot guild is - since actually you will be running one, judging by the awesome friendly super happy funny rules you have come up with.

But I guess you still don't get it. So there's only one thing left to say:

[Barotix]

Your two rules are not enough.

Does your group meet the criteria?

• No Botting
• No Bot Support -
  
  • No 8 Man Parties with cheaters.
  • No fraternizing with cheaters.
  • No plvl from cheaters.
  • may not buff cheaters.
  • may not aid cheaters.
  • If you have to ask if it's legit then it isn't legit.
• No Client Modification or 3rd Party Modifications -
  
  • No Pk2 EDIT ~ This includes: Invisible, Stealth, Zoom Hack Pk2, and any pk2 edit that has a malicious effect.
  • No third party clients. If it is not from Joymax don't use it.
  • No third party loaders. If it is not Joymax's loader don't use it.
• No Gold Buying.
• No Character Buying.
• No Character Selling.
• No Gold Selling.
• No Trading Silk for Gold.
• No Plvl after level 30.
• No Scamming Legit Players.

Legit is simply playing the game as it's meant to be played. I underlined the rules that are unnecessary on that basis. Everything else should be understood; if one wants to remain legit then they must avoid fraternizing with cheaters. The true left wing/right wing is Control and Coercion VS Laissez faire. Not Fascism VS socialism as there is not much difference between the two (Two wings of the same bird of prey). The rules are simple. If you wish to allow others to cheat then do so on another server.

[Axie]

I do not Cheat, Use a loader premote Cheating in anyway.

how do you not promote cheating if u allow in ur guild using loader ( u dont have to use it urself to allow it), using invis hacking and getting plvled by bots?

sry dude but you'll have to bring that "alternative" of yours to another server cause i doubt your guild will survive on Venus

[Skyve]

is not legit according to Venus Confederation

Exactly,according to Venus Confedaration,
Everyone has there own defenition of legit,even the Venus Confederation isn't 100% legit
to me it seems you guys are more mad at him for creating an alternative to the Venus Confed. than anything else really

[nohunta]

Lol Venus people are soooooo disrespectful. You cant even respect his wishes and leave his recruiting thread alone. Thats very sad. His rules are his rules. Who defines how a game is supposed to be played? Only Joymax can because its their game. Any rules made outside of what Joymax said is (I cant think of the word for it). He's seriously making all of you look like retarded assholes. He hasnt flamed a single person here, yet all of you continuasly flame him. I lol at the legits of venus. "We are legit" but you guys forgot to make the fine print of "We are also Assholes!"