Bower in parties?

[sheeplol6]

Maybe I am greedy for wanting the most out of my gold ticket, but I paid for it, so why shouldn't I?

so your saying you'd rather lower chinese players fun because you want to make the most out of something thats costing about 30 cents a day? if your so bothered about 30 cents go look under the shelf stacks or Pick-'n-Mix at wal-mart. youll find 30 cents a day there easy.

let people join if they want, its all about fun.

[Zero_Doom]

Maybe I am greedy for wanting the most out of my gold ticket, but I paid for it, so why shouldn't I?

so your saying you'd rather lower chinese players fun because you want to make the most out of something thats costing about 30 cents a day? if your so bothered about 30 cents go look under the shelf stacks or Pick-'n-Mix at wal-mart. youll find 30 cents a day there easy.

let people join if they want, its all about fun.

You know what? I don't honestly care what you think. I paid for something, and expect to get what I paid for. If you have a problem with me expecting to get what I paid for, then that's good for you. xP

People keep saying "it's all about fun." Fun is a point of view. All of your statements have been double standards looking at it from the point of view of Chinese that are tired of having to solo. Well why do euro parties have to allow Chinese builds? I mean, if we refused because it isn't fun for us, you would still bitch about it. Obviously none of you care about how much fun it is for anyone but yourselves, so why should any euro's care how much fun it is for a Chinese to solo?

I am done with this discussion. All the double standards that plague your logic bother me. You can still bitch and moan, and it won't change anything. Europeans belong in parties with Europeans, and eventually, if you are currently allowed in parties as a Chinese, you will be denied. No reason to continue talking about this.

[Shazam!]

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Yea, good job comparing your damage with people that are lvl 64 when you are 72+? Gratz on that. Glad to know you can out damage someone 8 lvls lower then you. As far as leveling slow, yea... it sort of happens when you don't party. Some of us have to go out and make money, places called jobs. Can't just ask mom and dad for money. xP

There is no reason a chinese should take the spot of a euro in a party, ever.

Thanks for the compliment. Good job throwing in some random and pointless flames. Yes, I am a total no-lifer and actually don't have any existence outside of SRO. But I jsut don't get it - you want to get THE MOST out of what you pay for, thus Chinese have to leave the party once you enter, but you actually don't have the time to grind cause you're too busy with your job? Doesn't that cause way bigger losses then? Anyway, I'm sure you're following a well overthought logic there.

And an average Gens Wizz is not lvl 64, I outdamage 70+ Wizzards as well, nublet.

But hey, yea, I agree, the discussion is pointless. You don't party anyway cause you got a life and the people that do party don't. So the chance to encounter you in a party as a party leader that can kick you is rather low, I guess.

What you think and say doesn't bother me the least, by the way. I don't party anymore anyway. Just saw the lame cr@p you're spouting out in this thread and immediately felt like throwing my two cents in as well.

[JKMB]

I find it ironic that if Joymax intended there to be "pure parties" then why would they even allow chinese and europeans to party together in the 1st place, if you actually read the Q&A Joymax suggest they are meant to intermingle.
Also just for the record, mangyangs do have both a magical and physical defence value, if they didnt have a mag defence then it would be impossible for an archer crit to out do both a nuker and wizards dmg.
But if it bothers you that much, get a picture of a wizard nuking a gen or wing tribe, and I promise you I can top it.
Which brings me to the point of, I nuke the same if not more then a wizard on a mob, therefore its prudent to ban me from the party for a character that does less dmg then I do? Great logic, if your so concerned about your maximum exp output, then you should be looking for characters that bring more to the party, if an archer allows you to make bigger and better lures, chances are the extra exp from the massive lures he can make will more then compensate for the loss of an unsubstantiated exp % increase that an 8/8 party gets, which it may be added, a full 8/8 party within 100m of each other gets a 20% exp increase bonus, it is not known how much europeans affect this increase, so actually its better to have 7 europeans + 1 chinese then 7/8 ppl, cuz actually, you will be making more exp with that 1 chinese to bring up your exp gain by 20% then not having any exp bonus at all.

[sheeplol6]

Well why do euro parties have to allow Chinese builds?

You can still bitch and moan, and it won't change anything.

Europeans belong in parties with Europeans

Obviously none of you care about how much fun it is for anyone but yourselves, so why should any euro's care how much fun it is for a Chinese to solo

answers to your comments:
1. they dont have to, its just if your not all hung up and obsessed on exp and levelling it can be fun to mix parties up a bit.

2. Pure hypocritical, quoting you: "I do bitch that we don't have a second tank". also, were just trying to get you to pull your head out your arse.

3. you didnt read the other posts, JOYMAX INTTENDED FOR THEM TO MIX UP A BIT.

4. another stupid post, having a chinese in the party does not ruin the fun for anyone, unless they are all upset over a small exp loss per mob, even though the kill rate is faster.

kratos was right, all weve seen and read, is you being an ass.

[tedtwilliger]

You know what? I don't honestly care what you think. I paid for something, and expect to get what I paid for.

since when did buying a gold ticket mean that you must party with euros only? did you pay for a euro only game too?

[iseedeadpeople]

Just saw the lame cr@p you're spouting out in this thread and immediately felt like throwing my two cents in as well.

Wait, your 2 cents as in you trying to say your chinese out powers a euro wiz? lol please. When do you think we were born?

Thats my two cents.

[PR0METHEUS]

It'll be interesting when Islam comes out in iSRO. Imagine if Joymax designed it so Islamic and Chinese characters complement each other well, and give exp bonuses partying together. These european characters will all be crying that they NEED to get into these parties because they paid for their tickets and DESERVE to get the most for their money.

I guess in the end, everyone can play how they want. If a euro refuses to let a chinese in, so be it. That's his right. That chinese is also fully justified in PKing the euro and joining the party in his place.

[Shazam!]

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Wait, your 2 cents as in you trying to say your chinese out powers a euro wiz? lol please. When do you think we were born?

Thats my two cents.

PvP?

[HealingOrbit]

Oyu I deal around 17k dmg to Gens with Meteor and Earth Shock. I have 4 AoE skills, Earth Fence, Fire Trap, Res, Bless and the ability to Cleric if the party needs it. Last I saw your dmg you did 10k to Gens.

[Shazam!]

Oyu I deal around 17k dmg to Gens with Meteor and Earth Shock. I have 4 AoE skills, Earth Fence, Fire Trap, Res, Bless and the ability to Cleric if the party needs it. Last I saw your dmg you did 10k to Gens.

PvP?

[thechampion80]

Oyu I deal around 17k dmg to Gens with Meteor and Earth Shock. I have 4 AoE skills, Earth Fence, Fire Trap, Res, Bless and the ability to Cleric if the party needs it. Last I saw your dmg you did 10k to Gens.

PvP?

rofl that guy got pwned

[HealingOrbit]

Oyu I deal around 17k dmg to Gens with Meteor and Earth Shock. I have 4 AoE skills, Earth Fence, Fire Trap, Res, Bless and the ability to Cleric if the party needs it. Last I saw your dmg you did 10k to Gens.

PvP?

rofl that guy got pwned

Wut.

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=810387
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=1848645

I'm pretty sure I know when I'm beat. Aside from that it doesn't mean I can't just 1 shot him with Meteor after his Snow Shield is gone anyway, unless he has good blues. I bet a chinese nuker cant kill LY at my level either.

[AkillerNXC]

The only thing chinese are good for is being hammers in FW. In group pvp they are useless. Nobody cares about 1v1 anyways.

[TheDrop]

The only thing chinese are good for is being hammers in FW. In group pvp they are useless. Nobody cares about 1v1 anyways.

Just cause you dont care doesnt mean nobody cares ;P

[Aiyas]

The only thing chinese are good for is being hammers in FW. In group pvp they are useless. Nobody cares about 1v1 anyways.

lol
That's a good one.

[Shazam!]

The only thing chinese are good for is being hammers in FW. In group pvp they are useless. Nobody cares about 1v1 anyways.

Just cause you dont care doesnt mean nobody cares ;P

+1

I don't really understand why 1on1 should be looked down upon. Just because that's an area where Chinese usually stand better chances in it shall be a somewhat inferior discipline? Meh, god knows where you guys take your attitude from.



HealingOrbit, before talking about one-shotting me, I want to see you survive two minutes of Snow Shield. After those have passed, keep in mind there's still a Snake Storm at hand - and in general, my Ghost Spear's casting time is lower than your meteor's. And as far as I know one Ghost Spear is all it takes..

And yeah, I actually do pimp up my gear. That's what Chinese usually do. I guess that doesn't count anymore in the age of Euro-Group-PvP pwnage.


Lighten up, it's a game and I'm mainly just fooling around. Still I want to see you hit 17k on a Gen without outside buffs.

[HealingOrbit]

HealingOrbit, before talking about one-shotting me, I want to see you survive two minutes of Snow Shield. After those have passed, keep in mind there's still a Snake Storm at hand - and in general, my Ghost Spear's casting time is lower than your meteor's. And as far as I know one Ghost Spear is all it takes..

And yeah, I actually do pimp up my gear. That's what Chinese usually do. I guess that doesn't count anymore in the age of Euro-Group-PvP pwnage.


Lighten up, it's a game and I'm mainly just fooling around. Still I want to see you hit 17k on a Gen without outside buffs.

When I said I know when I'm beat I meant that I cannot survive versus you. I guess you just felt like not reading that part I suppose. I still could by sitting in town or going invisible... If I wanted to win I probably could it just wouldn't be fair in the way I do it.

I'm actually a 1v1 supporter too which I got flamed over by plenty of people because Zanthra made a big deal about it on the Confederation forums. I don't group PvP often, or PvP at all to be honest, but when I do I'm still just as much of a 1 shot with the buffs as I am without, 52 Rogues can 1 shot me. I also am incredibly poor, I think I have 200k atm, and cannot afford to pimp up my gear.

And I deal 13k to Gens without buffs. When I said you deal 10k to Gens that was when I last saw you in a party so your dmg would be lower too... On top of that as you can see, my gear is crap in comparison to yours.

[Shazam!]

Actually I read that part but somehow thought you were disagreeing since you the possibility of one-hitting me. I am likely to misinterpret things, sowwy.

Seeing me in a party does not mean that I am properly buffed. I've seen my nukes hitting 14.5k at Gens as well, before updating my gear. And at the moment I am not exactly doing anything but updating my gear due to a lack of time.

Group PvP would be quite awesome, if it was always group vs. group. Which it usually is not. But well.. Rogues are just as annoying for me as they are for you.

[Barotix]

The only thing chinese are good for is being hammers in FW. In group pvp they are useless. Nobody cares about 1v1 anyways.

Keep this in mind people; 2005-2007 before July 24th never happened.

[JKMB]

k, fack you all, I 1 shot 85 warriors with my sun spear, and they dont 1 shot me back, I r winrar? To most people who say chinese are useless, every actually played one past 6x? HO your opinion on that is irrelevant since we already know that if you did, then you were afk for most of the time anyway. I will admit, europeans in a group, sure they own pretty hard, they are designed that way, that said, it does not make chinese useless, if you put a chinese character in the same situation as a european, he would perform just as well.

I bet a chinese nuker cant kill LY at my level either.

If I got him to myself? Yeah I would, normally I wouldnt since there are other tards who would KS me, put me in the same party you were in, and yeah I would get him.

[HealingOrbit]

HO your opinion on that is irrelevant since we already know that if you did, then you were afk for most of the time anyway.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

And I highly doubt at 68, with 4 gap, and 71, with 1 gap, you could kill yarkan as a chinese nuker because...

1.) Your range is crap compared to a Wizards.
2.) Your nukes are slower than a Wizard's.
3.) You'd get ksed by one of the other Wizards in the group, if not one of the 9D's that were around both times I killed.

And if you somehow did get the kill it would be because of your Sun spear, not your build.

[Barotix]

HO your opinion on that is irrelevant since we already know that if you did, then you were afk for most of the time anyway.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

And I highly doubt at 68, with 4 gap, and 71, with 1 gap, you could kill yarkan as a chinese nuker because...

1.) Your range is crap compared to a Wizards.
2.) Your nukes are slower than a Wizard's.
3.) You'd get ksed by one of the other Wizards in the group, if not one of the 9D's that were around both times I killed.

And if you somehow did get the kill it would be because of your Sun spear, not your build.

Man, I wonder how Yarkan was killed before Europe. Oh woe is me.

[Axie]

LOL just LOL at people saying that chinese are useless i bet most of you never had a high level chinese and it seems didnt play before europe. Yes full chinese party will be weaker than full euro, but i bet mixed party can put up a big challenge for a full euro party. Just because 99% of high lvl chinese chars on venus are bots and have no idea how to play their builds does not mean chinese race sucks.

[HealingOrbit]

HO your opinion on that is irrelevant since we already know that if you did, then you were afk for most of the time anyway.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

And I highly doubt at 68, with 4 gap, and 71, with 1 gap, you could kill yarkan as a chinese nuker because...

1.) Your range is crap compared to a Wizards.
2.) Your nukes are slower than a Wizard's.
3.) You'd get ksed by one of the other Wizards in the group, if not one of the 9D's that were around both times I killed.

And if you somehow did get the kill it would be because of your Sun spear, not your build.

Man, I wonder how Yarkan was killed before Europe. Oh woe is me.

Yeh, I wonder how 68's and 71's killed yarkan before Europe too.

[Barotix]

What exactly are you trying to say here?

And I highly doubt at 68, with 4 gap, and 71, with 1 gap, you could kill yarkan as a chinese nuker because...

1.) Your range is crap compared to a Wizards.
2.) Your nukes are slower than a Wizard's.
3.) You'd get ksed by one of the other Wizards in the group, if not one of the 9D's that were around both times I killed.

And if you somehow did get the kill it would be because of your Sun spear, not your build.

Man, I wonder how Yarkan was killed before Europe. Oh woe is me.

Yeh, I wonder how 68's and 71's killed yarkan before Europe too.

Man it must have been impossible to kill Yarkan when he was first added. Were there even 80s yet!? gasp!

[icycatch]

euros have to gang a chinese bicheon[blader or s/s] to win unless the euro has better gear.If not, RIP PLOX[Warriors included]

All euro ints with aver gear get 1 hitted by a chinese spear nuker's spear throw[Flow XXX skill]








Of similar levels.

[HealingOrbit]

Man it must have been impossible to kill Yarkan when he was first added. Were there even 80s yet!? gasp!

Have you ever watched the Xian's first Yarkan kill? 90% of people there got raped. Since Asyamura was a Str and had Sun he got the kill. I'm guessing that no Int got the first kill of Yarkan on any server. Yes he can be killed by low levels without Euro help. But an Int isn't going to be doing it, unless they're full Sun...

[Zero_Doom]

euros have to gang a chinese bicheon[blader or s/s] to win unless the euro has better gear.If not, RIP PLOX[Warriors included]

All euro ints with aver gear get 1 hitted by a chinese spear nuker's spear throw[Flow XXX skill]








Of similar levels.

I know I said I wouldn't, but I needed to interject. I can fight and win against a blader my own level, without any support from anyone else. Also, I do not get 1 shotted by Oyukiyo's spear throw, I dunno where that came from. xD Only thing I get one shotted from when pvping Oyukiyo is his nukes, which are strong for a chinese on Venus. xP

[JKMB]

And if you somehow did get the kill it would be because of your Sun spear, not your build.

People did on new servers lol, prior to 90 cap, also I hit approx 2-4k less then a wizard in LT with my s/s, except you would die if the tank did or lost aggro during the spawns. You are correct about one thing, at 71 I wouldnt do enough dmg to kill him without last tier weps.