Venus needs to change some rules about bot supporting, etc.

[Captain Tycoon]

You must be Doolie (IGN Name).

[Hellracer]

oh wells, i guess i got caught yup hes right ^^

This kid kicked me from party after we were getting along pretty well, till he asked me why i got kicked from guild (well i actually left) but after 5-10 minutes of partying, right when a Giant party comes he kicks me saying im a Bot Supporter lol?

1 Other SD members have done this, so hes basically telling me to go bot, do you see how crappy even the legit community is? But i like my guild not everyone in it but most of the people are really cool unlike SD.. Actually im glad i got kicked or w.e cuz i wouldnt have found Odyssey love you guys <3

[Captain Tycoon]

10 minutes before I was at Hotan potting...after I got there, 3 minutes later I kicked you AFTER i formed party. Maybe you would like to explain to everyone why?

[Hellracer]

what the hell r u talking about? You went AFK u came back all of a sudden Giant Party came u kicked me someone rejoined me and i said why u kick me u said im bot supporter. End of story trust me u will get urs, im known for pking in other servers i will be in this server too lol.

But, for now u live

[Captain Tycoon]

Maybe you would like to explain to why you got kicked from SD? What you told me...

[Hellracer]

Sure, why not i scammed a gold botter for 100 Million Gold. Charged back China woman called me saying fook you scammer etc etc i laffed at her, hung up and gave gold to couple of ppl i noe. and used rest for my sword.

Now explain how i "supported" them when i gave them nothing

Other than ur lame excuse for saying i created more gold bots cause i scammed them and their would be no goldbots if i havent i seriously bursted into laughter when u said that in game i was like is this kid serious? lol.

edit :i like how everytime i tell u to explain ingame or not u start to ignore.
Fookin loser.

[AngloKnight]

Umm, being power lvled by a bot... well, other than wot ppl are debating about whether you're benefiting from the bot program itself or not I have my own opinion which is >>> being in touch with ppl that bot will make you get weaker in front of them, and most prolly giving up your fight against bots... C'mon, don't tell me all ppl will not fall for it if a they get to be friends with botters that power lvl them, then they'd join their guilds then they start botting lol

[Hellracer]

Umm, being power lvled by a bot... well, other than wot ppl are debating about whether you're benefiting from the bot program itself or not I have my own opinion which is >>> being in touch with ppl that bot will make you get weaker in front of them, and most prolly giving up your fight against bots... C'mon, don't tell me all ppl will not fall for it if a they get to be friends with botters that power lvl them, then they'd join their guilds then they start botting lol

lol kinda random i was havin a flame war above ^^

[Elikapeka]

Depending on the Union/Guild, the punishments for some of the actions you listed in your original post aren't as extreme as you think.

Botting and gold-buying being exceptions. As far as I know, there is a no-tolerance rule in the BHA, Odyssey and Avalon unions, as there should be. Being powerleveled by a bot, also no-tolerance. But if whoever is in charge knows that you're new to the game and new to "the War" then you'll be warned and voila, second chance. If you continue to do so, knowing it is against policy then I see no reason to give you another chance.

Having that sort of care-free attitude towards something, opens all sorts of doors for you to eventually just say, well it isn't all that wrong, I might as well do it. We're trying to prevent that and if being harsh and extreme in some ways is a part of that, then...not so sorry.

Take whatever personal issues you have off the forums and into a private discussion. There's a handy PM feature here and in-game. Use it.

[Hellracer]

Depending on the Union/Guild, the punishments for some of the actions you listed in your original post aren't as extreme as you think.

Botting and gold-buying being exceptions. As far as I know, there is a no-tolerance rule in the BHA, Odyssey and Avalon unions, as there should be. Being powerleveled by a bot, also no-tolerance. But if whoever is in charge knows that you're new to the game and new to "the War" then you'll be warned and voila, second chance. If you continue to do so, knowing it is against policy then I see no reason to give you another chance.

Having that sort of care-free attitude towards something, opens all sorts of doors for you to eventually just say, well it isn't all that wrong, I might as well do it. We're trying to prevent that and if being harsh and extreme in some ways is a part of that, then...not so sorry.

Take whatever personal issues you have off the forums and into a private discussion. There's a handy PM feature here and in-game. Use it.

True, sadly i seen many people in our union and other legit unions alike gettin plvled by botters, around penon. Yes a warning or some kind of message would def. be nice but for me i wasnt lucky but hey i wouldnt have it any other way like i said i would have never found Odyssey if this didnt happen so cheers! btw im ending this flame wars with him nothing else to talk about. no need for pms.

edit: btw i aint new, but i guess im new to the so called wars. hehe

[Alfred]

Sure, why not i scammed a gold botter for 100 Million Gold. Charged back china woman called me saying fook you scammer etc etc i laffed at her, hung up and gave gold to couple of ppl i noe. and used rest for my sword.

Now explain how i "supported" them when i gave them nothing

Other than ur lame excuse for saying i created more gold bots cause i scammed them lol.

Sad to see you still fail to understand what you did was wrong. If you want to flame anyone from SD in your sig, it is me you should put down there. I am the lucky one who got the honour to kick you .

[Hellracer]

Please enlighten me, Rules state do not buy gold, do not get plvl by bot, do not bot, bot,do not use third party programs, please explain cause all u sudden h0m0s kids can say is... beacuse i scammed them more gold bots come in.. c mon u can come up with a better excuse than taht jesus christ lol

cause from waht i saw in that guild oh man ur gonna lose hardcore lol.

[doomas]

Ooh, so this is all about being kicked out from the guild?

[Hellracer]

Ooh, so this is all about being kicked out from the guild?

nah i dont care about that lame guild (its been weeks) just recently got kicked out of a party by non other than a sudden h0m0 member.

Ok drop the subject please get back to the topic at hand. ^^

[Fly]

Legits on venus will NOT:
- Bot
- Buy Gold
- Get plvled by a bot
- Party with bots
- Be in a bot union
- Lets bots in there union
- Be in a bot guild
- Let bots into there guild

Anyone who does not like it, there are 23 other servers for you to go to. We did not make this server the awesome place it is by giving up our morals. If you think we should give up what it means to be legit just to get more whiney assholes who pretend to be legit into venus, then this server is not for you.

Dont you ever wonder why the other 23 servers all failed? maybe instead of changing our rules to be just like those servers, and eventualy failing also, we should encourage them to change there rules to be like ours, and slowly take sro back from the bots.

There is no larger crime in SRO then bot support. Not only are bot supporters saying they are OK with letting SRO be bot ruled, they are backstabbing every single legit when they do so. We on Venus will hunt Bot supporters 10x harder then the average bot.

[Hellracer]

- Bot [check]

- Buy Gold [probably couple ppl buy no way to figure out]

- Get plvled by a bot [ jajaja seen plenty of ppl from all 3 legit unions gettin plvl by bot]

- Party with bots [ lol 2/3 times i party theirs usually a known bot guild in the party i tell the ppl to kick him they just ignore me u ppl noe who u r]

- Be in a bot union [ check ]

- Lets bots in there union [ check ]

- Be in a bot guild [check ]

- Let bots into there guild [ check ]

And no i dont recall the names of ppl who got plvl by bot or party with bots i just remember them.

[doomas]

What about this situation:
Imagine that you buy 1hr taxi and then go afk, but you do not know that the player who plvls you is using a bot... Is that considered illegal?
Oh, and buying taxies on this server is just a waste of gold. I bought 1hr at sonars and later I realised that I was getting less exp than grinding in an euro party, so don't waste your gold guys

[Fly]

What about this situation:
Imagine that you buy 1hr taxi and then go afk, but you do not know that the player who plvls you is using a bot... Is that considered illegal?
Oh, and buying taxies on this server is just a waste of gold. I bought 1hr at sonars and later I realised that I was getting less exp than grinding in an euro party, so don't waste your gold guys

if u buy a taxi from a botter, it does not matter if he is botting or not, its bot support. if you buy a taxi from a legit, 100% chance he will not be botting.

and saying you did not know he was botting, is no excuse. its easy to tell who bots on venus. 3 legit unions, everyone outside those unions is 99% botters.

[PileOfMush]

So from what I gather, the OP uses no-DC and buys gold. Is there anything else I've missed?

[Hellracer]

u accusing me?

and yes u miss the whole point.

[Belgarath]

Its people like you that keep the bots going.

[Asyamura]

Hehe, look now how many people are now pissed off when i write a total simply definition of a cheat . Belive me, i don't care what you call a legit player, cheat,....and what not, and you can buy from me x 1000's of silks and yes i play this game totaly free and probably you will one day wake up and found out that this is just a video game

maybe you will one day wake up and realize you have x 1000's of shoes in your wardrobe.
Listen you silly b1tch , go to your saturday nights and dance your ass drunk and get fcked ? is that good enough for you ?

OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w

[Vienna]

Hehe, look now how many people are now pissed off when i write a total simply definition of a cheat . Belive me, i don't care what you call a legit player, cheat,....and what not, and you can buy from me x 1000's of silks and yes i play this game totaly free and probably you will one day wake up and found out that this is just a video game

maybe you will one day wake up and realize you have x 1000's of shoes in your wardrobe.
Listen you silly b1tch , go to your saturday nights and dance your ass drunk and get fcked ? is that good enough for you ?

OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w

Asyamura
What have you have write me you crazy child. You should be better more in school like to play that game all the day, so you could learn some basic behavior. I can only hope for you, that you are some child, if not, dear o dear, you need with 100 % a doctor & (real) girlfriend which will show you real life.

'' OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w ''
What the hell do you think what you are ?. That you could make some rules and tell me what is bot, what is a cheat and what not ?. Total crazy. I have my own brains ( that is someting what you have in your head, but you using it only to press on buttons ) so i know what is a cheat and what not, don't need help by this and im sure 80 % of the people which playing this game don't need help by this and gives a big shit on your rules.

Kids, im off this forum, here are mostly only some hardcore kids which living in this game and have already forget this is just a video game and not reality. Work better more on your real life ( which you truly don't have ) > Think about it ! <.

Bye, bye video game heroes

[PhizzDaShizz]

Hehe, look now how many people are now pissed off when i write a total simply definition of a cheat . Belive me, i don't care what you call a legit player, cheat,....and what not, and you can buy from me x 1000's of silks and yes i play this game totaly free and probably you will one day wake up and found out that this is just a video game

maybe you will one day wake up and realize you have x 1000's of shoes in your wardrobe.
Listen you silly b1tch , go to your saturday nights and dance your ass drunk and get fcked ? is that good enough for you ?

OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w

Asyamura
What have you have write me you crazy child. You should be better more in school like to play that game all the day, so you could learn some basic behavior. I can only hope for you, that you are some child, if not, dear o dear, you need with 100 % a doctor & (real) girlfriend which will show you real life.

'' OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w ''
What the hell do you think what you are ?. That you could make some rules and tell me what is bot, what is a cheat and what not ?. Total crazy. I have my own brains ( that is someting what you have in your head, but you using it only to press on buttons ) so i know what is a cheat and what not, don't need help by this and im sure 80 % of the people which playing this game don't need help by this and gives a big shit on your rules.

Kids, im off this forum, here are mostly only some hardcore kids which living in this game and have already forget this is just a video game and not reality. Work better more on your real life ( which you truly don't have ) > Think about it ! <.

Bye, bye video game heroes

Shut the phuck up premium IS legit you ARE retarded. you are the biggest hypocrite i have ever seen on this forum, first you say using premium is NOT legit which since joymax sells the things and they write the rules it most likely is legit and now your telling someone else that they cant tell you what a bot is and their right and know what their talking about? Your calling everyone a little kid and yet most of the people in this thread make alot more sense and are alot more intelligent then you. who are you to tell us that we cant play a video game why do you care so much wether we have a life or not...or are you really that creepy?

[Shadow]

I have my own brains

I doubt it.

[Corrupt]

Vienna

You're on a Computer Game Forum telling people to get a life. Do you also go on Car forums and tell people it's just a car who gives a shit about what mods are on it? Or a football forum and say hey all you crazed fans it's just a sport don't get so into it? How about going on every forum ever made about every hobby, sport, what ever else there is to talk about and tell them "to go get a life and a girlfriend cause you guys are to into what you enjoy doing."?

Everyone lives differently, judging them and telling them to not get so into something is pathetic. You're apparently playing the same game and coming to the same forums as a majority of players and telling them to go do something else?

"Oh hey I don't like how you're f ing your girlfriend, so I'm going to step in and screw her myself. You can go to work and do other real life shit child."

There is no difference between a game and reality cause a game is just another hobby for someone to do. And if your hobby is screwing your girlfriend then with your reasoning the above statement is rational.

[Captain Tycoon]

Everyone lives differently, judging them and telling them to not get so into something is pathetic. You're apparently playing the same game and coming to the same forums as a majority of players and telling them to go do something else?

Very well said!

Anyhow, Hellracer...

Other than ur lame excuse for saying i created more gold bots cause i scammed them and their would be no goldbots if i havent i seriously bursted into laughter when u said that in game i was like is this kid serious? lol.

I didn't say that there won't be anymore bots, because there will always be bots until Joymax decide to stop bots through using more than one procedure other than "massive" bot bans. BUT, there can be a decrease, maybe not now but perhaps in the Long Term. Think about it, If the gold bot companies had so much gold in their bank, and not so many people are buying/scamming their gold, why would they want to continue to gold bot? The gold companies may decide to sell the gold cheaper, but as long as there is a decrease of gold demand, they won't be online 24/7 with 100+ characters per company and per server.

So, for example. You scammed them of 200million gold. Now, maybe the gold bot company would have to make up for that 200million gold through botting even more, since they MAY be in short supply of gold and in demand of gold. You scamming the 200million gold is like you botting for 200million gold but obviously without having the third party program because the gold bot company is going to have to continue to bot to have a certain level of gold supply. Thats what I meant with what you said I said

Get what I mean?

[AngloKnight]

Hehe, look now how many people are now pissed off when i write a total simply definition of a cheat . Belive me, i don't care what you call a legit player, cheat,....and what not, and you can buy from me x 1000's of silks and yes i play this game totaly free and probably you will one day wake up and found out that this is just a video game

maybe you will one day wake up and realize you have x 1000's of shoes in your wardrobe.
Listen you silly b1tch , go to your saturday nights and dance your ass drunk and get fcked ? is that good enough for you ?

OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w

Asyamura
What have you have write me you crazy child. You should be better more in school like to play that game all the day, so you could learn some basic behavior. I can only hope for you, that you are some child, if not, dear o dear, you need with 100 % a doctor & (real) girlfriend which will show you real life.

'' OH SHIT i just realised Rev, all Avalon is botting since we used premium except corrupt because he is a j3w ''
What the hell do you think what you are ?. That you could make some rules and tell me what is bot, what is a cheat and what not ?. Total crazy. I have my own brains ( that is someting what you have in your head, but you using it only to press on buttons ) so i know what is a cheat and what not, don't need help by this and im sure 80 % of the people which playing this game don't need help by this and gives a big shit on your rules.

Kids, im off this forum, here are mostly only some hardcore kids which living in this game and have already forget this is just a video game and not reality. Work better more on your real life ( which you truly don't have ) > Think about it ! <.

Bye, bye video game heroes

Hey hey heyyyyy, listen, I'm a kid okay??? **** YOUUUUUUU @ss hole! lol wow tards are increasing...

[Fly]

anyone who thinks item mall is a cheat is a total moron. thats like saying we should rob the gas station instead of buying the gas, because we are gaining an unfair advantage over poor contries with no gas stations.

[Shadow]

*goes to rob gas stations*