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[PR0METHEUS]

Finding the Perfect party is always hard.
I remember the days when I have to wait for whole day waiting in a 3/8 pt for a tank or a healer to show up. At the end, nothing was done and a day of GT was wasted.
And when u get a pt, ppl don't seem to know what they are doing. Unlike the first batch who started in Venus, they party with each other almost everyday n got used to each others' play style. It WORKS for them.
Point is, unless u can find some1 to pt with u alot or some1 who actually listen, u have to deal with the differences while partying. Ppl don't seem to listen to u since u're only a few lvls above them, sometimes few lvls lower.
Play ur build rite long enough, u'll start to get pm from ppl pming u inviting u to join their pt.
B nice/kind. The day will come.

Agreed. Sometimes you just have to deal with people's differences. Everyone plays their build slightly differently. That's not a bad thing. You don't have to have a "perfect party" and in my opinion sitting around waiting in town for 3 or 5 or 8 hours waiting for that "perfect party" is just silly. Get a group of friends together, form a party (even a 4/8 one) and get out grinding.

Some people just take their 8/8 parties WAY too seriously... to the point of murdering a party member because that person didn't play their build "correctly"? I guess I can understand murdering the cleric who keeps going AFK the whole time, but when will it come down to say, murdering the warrior that lagged out and didn't aggro a couple mobs quick enough?

[CeLL]

it isnt about a perfect party as much as it is the lack of knowlegde of the party system in general, from how many mobs ahead of your level to grind, and how the balance of the party works. it isnt about individual builds but knowing your role, as The Rock would say.

[Spanktastik]

Make your own party. Add/kick whoever you want/think isnt a dumbass. Problem solved.

[CeLL]

Make your own party. Add/kick whoever you want/think isnt a dumbass. Problem solved.

... its hard to kick people that dont exist. did anyone read my post?
a simple one line answer doesnt solve the predominant issues within venus' party system.

[PR0METHEUS]

it isnt about a perfect party as much as it is the lack of knowlegde of the party system in general, from how many mobs ahead of your level to grind, and how the balance of the party works. it isnt about individual builds but knowing your role, as The Rock would say.

I see what you're saying. Sure, generally mobs 11 levels ahead are best to grind on, if you have a good party, but a smaller gap is ok too especially if party members don't have good gear or are still learning their builds. Everyone has their role in a party, but I think a good party can be flexible and change those roles some as well. I could join a party as a rogue and just lure mobs with my fast shot so the wizards can kill them. I could also throw on crossbow extreme now and then to 1-hit general mobs if there are no pt mobs to lure for the rest of the party.

[CeLL]

it isnt about a perfect party as much as it is the lack of knowlegde of the party system in general, from how many mobs ahead of your level to grind, and how the balance of the party works. it isnt about individual builds but knowing your role, as The Rock would say.

I see what you're saying. Sure, generally mobs 11 levels ahead are best to grind on, if you have a good party, but a smaller gap is ok too especially if party members don't have good gear or are still learning their builds. Everyone has their role in a party, but I think a good party can be flexible and change those roles some as well. I could join a party as a rogue and just lure mobs with my fast shot so the wizards can kill them. I could also throw on crossbow extreme now and then to 1-hit general mobs if there are no pt mobs to lure for the rest of the party.

well, when its a full 8/8 party lvls ranging fro 34-42 and they just wanna whack off to sung sungs for the next ten years its kinda rediculious. and then with people THAT high of a level and the party STILL falls apart because the cleric is shit and the wiz aggros like a retard, and the tank wont taunt cause if it does hell die cause the cleric is shit. i dont know, its just a circle of pointlessness that i have to break by soloing, for a while.

[Karras]

@CeLL
So u want to find ppl who knows what they are doing and u want ppl within your desire lvl range.
Tell u wat... There isn't a solution to that yet. Except solo.
Don't like it. Bare with it.