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[Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:17 pm
by Crowley
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Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:34 pm
by VeniVidiVici
Nice guide! Tho, I've one suggestion change the color of lightning it's very very hard to read.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:39 pm
by Crowley
VeniVidiVici wrote:Nice guide! Tho, I've one suggestion change the color of lightning it's very very hard to read.


Ok, I'll change it ^^

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:33 pm
by TheDrop
Hehe nice guide!

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:12 am
by raphaell666
Nice guide, but seriously consider putting all the videos in one spoiler. :)

I think you could mention that the build with 90fire/30light will not deal noticeably less damage than the one with 90lightning. Fire imbue, nukes, and phy % attack increase make up for the loss from not taking high Piercing Force Series.

Also, the build "90Fire/ 90Heuksal/ 60Ice/ 60 Lightning" will have a EXTREMELY low defense. I don't think it's a good idea to go with this using a pure int spear. You'd have to be hybrid to use those masteries. This build would be kinda good at PvE but it would definitely die extremely easily in PvP because of low snow shield and low phy def. In addition, it'd get fcked up at 100 cap or higher, you'd have to delevel an entire mastery. Furthermore, I think that this build is the most unbalanced among these. Highest damage but way lower defense and survivability. You should reconsider it imo.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:24 am
by Crowley
Thanks for the advice ^^
I'll work on it

Edit: I meant balanced as in mastery-wise. 90 fire/heuksal 60 light/ice is mainly a PvE build though. Coz you get good enough lightning buffs from 60 light and good enough snow/phy def from 60 ice..

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:00 pm
by raphaell666
Tsume wrote:Edit: I meant balanced as in mastery-wise. 90 fire/heuksal 60 light/ice is mainly a PvE build though. Coz you get good enough lightning buffs from 60 light and good enough snow/phy def from 60 ice..

I see, but I disagree that 60 ice gives you enough phy def, even for PvE.

90 cold phy def =~ 314% (60 cold phy def)
It's more than 3 times higher. For pure ints, 90 cold is a must in my opinion. =p

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:37 pm
by Crowley
IMO if you got a nice prot set you'll be fine :wink:

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:39 pm
by scottymans
Hey,
Could u make a little guide for the early levels? like 1~30.
I would appreciate it.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:06 pm
by Crowley
Uhh, it takes alot of effort to make a guide, especially one with so many words :S

Maybe if I have time on my hands, I'll make one in the near future.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 8:15 pm
by scottymans
oh sorry,
i meant for this guide ^^ just where to go who to kill what skills is usefull at early levels :P not a whole new guide Thx for replying ^^

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:01 pm
by CloudySasuke
Nice guide dude I'm probably gonna use it if I can't fine a better guide( which will be hard )

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:11 pm
by brentonsbbe359
If i ever start SRO again; i'm going to make a pure int spear character, but i'm going to have 90 - ice 90 - lightning 90- fire 30- hueskal

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:45 am
by Taroki
brentonsbbe359 wrote:If i ever start SRO again; i'm going to make a pure int spear character, but i'm going to have 90 - ice 90 - lightning 90- fire 30- hueskal


i started to make one... sp farming is so boring =(

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:19 pm
by jyushinshuu
nice guide if i were to choose, I would choose the last option 60/60 cold light

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:25 pm
by raphaell666
jyushinshuu wrote:nice guide if i were to choose, I would choose the last option 60/60 cold light

Good luck with a pure int with that build. Have you read my replies? I don't think that those masteries are good for a pure int. They are more suited for a hybrid.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:12 am
by Bobby
i agree with raphaell666, those masteries are for hybrids. IMO, 90 light and 90 ice is the way to go for full int.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:51 am
by sheeplol6
awesome guide, my spear is currently full int (cold/light/ice,30fire), but numerous people have said 7:1 is the best option, but 7:1 cant giv alot mre HP can it?

p.s this guide is ace :P

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:17 am
by raphaell666
sheeplol6 wrote:awesome guide, my spear is currently full int (cold/light/ice,30fire), but numerous people have said 7:1 is the best option, but 7:1 cant giv alot mre HP can it?

p.s this guide is ace :P

If you want to do better at 1vs1 pvping, then certainly going with 7:1 will improve your performance a lot when comparing it to a pure int, because the small boost it will give to your hp will help more than the increased damage of a pure int, as far as I know.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:18 am
by Crowley
raphaell666 wrote:
sheeplol6 wrote:awesome guide, my spear is currently full int (cold/light/ice,30fire), but numerous people have said 7:1 is the best option, but 7:1 cant giv alot mre HP can it?

p.s this guide is ace :P

If you want to do better at 1vs1 pvping, then certainly going with 7:1 will improve your performance a lot when comparing it to a pure int, because the small boost it will give to your hp will help more than the increased damage of a pure int, as far as I know.


I'd have to agree with you there, raphaell, seeing as you're the Characters & Skills expert :wink:

I also stated in my guide that if you want to do better at PvP, you should hybridize yourself.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:15 am
by Bobby
Tsume wrote:Fire Nukes gain 315% which makes up for the Piercing Force.


Not really a mistake but fire's strongest nuke is 330% (at 90cap) so u might wanna put tht up there.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:17 am
by AznFury
imho, if you're pure int, don't get the chains, since you'll be nuking + lion shoutting (depending if you get light 90 or even 60)

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:57 am
by Crowley
aznfury91 wrote:imho, if you're pure int, don't get the chains, since you'll be nuking + lion shoutting (depending if you get light 90 or even 60)


Dude, chains are teh leetness.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:02 pm
by AznFury
Tsume wrote:
aznfury91 wrote:imho, if you're pure int, don't get the chains, since you'll be nuking + lion shoutting (depending if you get light 90 or even 60)


Dude, chains are teh leetness.



ik they 1337 but if you have nukes, shouldn't those be your main weapons?

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:50 pm
by raphaell666
aznfury91 wrote:but if you have nukes, shouldn't those be your main weapons?

At PvE and group pvping, yes. At 1vs1 pvp, not really. Weapon skills somewhat help more than nukes at 1vs1 pvping. Also, high lvl chains can debuff your enemy, and that helps a lot.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:32 pm
by Afide
Tsume wrote:Lion Shout Series - Skip.
Lion Shout Series - Optional.
Lion Shout Series - Skip.



Skip Lionshout!?!?! whhaaaaaaaaaattttttt XD

(imo 100 spear/light/ice ftw)

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:56 am
by Crowley
Afide wrote:
Tsume wrote:Lion Shout Series - Skip.
Lion Shout Series - Optional.
Lion Shout Series - Skip.



Skip Lionshout!?!?! whhaaaaaaaaaattttttt XD

(imo 100 spear/light/ice ftw)


I only said to skip it for 60 Light. For 90 I put Optional xD

aznfury91 wrote:
Tsume wrote:
aznfury91 wrote:imho, if you're pure int, don't get the chains, since you'll be nuking + lion shoutting (depending if you get light 90 or even 60)


Dude, chains are teh leetness.



ik they 1337 but if you have nukes, shouldn't those be your main weapons?


IMO Chains do really well in PvE. At lvl 69 with the 6 hit combo you will be able to 1 hit anything up to lvl 72. Whereas a nuke would hit the mobs for around 70-80% HP

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:19 am
by AznFury
Tsume wrote:
IMO Chains do really well in PvE. At lvl 69 with the 6 hit combo you will be able to 1 hit anything up to lvl 72. Whereas a nuke would hit the mobs for around 70-80% HP


but with lionshout, you don't get hit at all right? = no hp pot usage = less money spent on pots.

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:24 pm
by Afide
Nuke -> Lionshout is hot sex. :]

Re: [Guide] Pure Int Spear [90 Cap]

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:30 am
by Comanel
For 90 cap i think the one of following builds are best for PVP: 8:1 hybrid int:72 ice/90fire/heusakal/48light! or 86ice/90fire/heuskal/34light!They own if you know how to play! :banghead:

I you are a hybrid ,think like one,don`t be hybrid only whit the stats!


And one question becouse i didn`t ever play ecsro etc etc..At 100 cap more mastery will me added over 300?

And on topic--Best buid for big damage nukes is 90/90/90 fire light ice!But to do well olso in PVP try this build 90 fire -more nukes ,more reliable,more fun...heuskal-90-no comments--86 ice-enough snow shield and psyhic defence and 34 light for that 10% magic atack power increse ...BE PURE INT ,PLAY WISE and OWN!But with cap 100 i have no idee...i think 100/100/100ice.heuskal/light if no more mastery will me added!

Sorry if my english is bad!