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[GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:18 am
by Crowley
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Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:44 am
by VeniVidiVici
Nice but few suggestions. Pictures would really help. Oh and IMO arrow combo is a must have. Not only for pvp but also in pve it can be your protecting angel by knockbacking a mob who deals high damage.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:55 am
by dezmin88
Dont you think you should get more out of ice?

Maybe, 90Pacheon/90Fire/72Cold/48Light

Possibly a fire and ice imbue

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:23 am
by Bobby
Btw, u would want the Cold passive too.

and do u use pills to vs warrior/warlocks? Cos w/o pills i find it hard to kill them, and haven't been able to afford pills since 9D garms started leeching away my gold...

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:30 pm
by Burningwolf
would be nice of you to post how you beat each build
then just saying you did.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:48 pm
by ImmortalKiller
Burningwolf wrote:would be nice of you to post how you beat each build
then just saying you did.

Than VS then. Plyz?

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:18 am
by laroi
thx nice guides

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:43 am
by nohunta
You forgot to tell what type of hybrid. 3:1? 3;2? 5:1?

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:04 am
by Crowley
nohunta wrote:You forgot to tell what type of hybrid. 3:1? 3;2? 5:1?


Tsume wrote:
Hybrid Ratio


Since you use bow you should be more on the str side of hybrid. DON'T have a physical balance of over 90% naked. A few well-know hybrid bower buids are: 70:70, 2:1, 3:1. Choose whichever you like. I wanted to be different so my build is totally unique. I went pure str from lvl 1 - 30 and then went 2:1 onwards.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:05 am
by Crowley
Bobby wrote:Btw, u would want the Cold passive too.

and do u use pills to vs warrior/warlocks? Cos w/o pills i find it hard to kill them, and haven't been able to afford pills since 9D garms started leeching away my gold...


Those pills cost alot =[ If you use snow/have a good set you should be just fine again warrior/warlocks

Burningwolf wrote:would be nice of you to post how you beat each build
then just saying you did.


I'll add it into my guide, thx for reminding me :S

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:18 am
by raphaell666
Tsume wrote:If you use snow/have a good set you should be just fine again warrior/warlocks

As far as I know that's not quite true. The only way of killing a warlock is by praying that you are not going to fight a good one. If you are, then you are pretty much farcked, and there's not much you can do.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:58 am
by Crowley
raphaell666 wrote:
Tsume wrote:If you use snow/have a good set you should be just fine again warrior/warlocks

As far as I know that's not quite true. The only way of killing a warlock is by praying that you are not going to fight a good one. If you are, then you are pretty much farcked, and there's not much you can do.


That's not necessarily true. As a str hybrid you'll have quite alot of HP that can tank if required, activating snow won't be a problem as your MP pool is also quite big. What you said is partially true, if you face a good warlock that knows how to use his skills/weapon switch I'd say your chance of victory is around 45%-55%

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:13 pm
by BloodyBlade
Hmm, is there anyone who knows what my phy & mag balance needs to be? =/
Im a bit new to the hybrid things

EDIT:
Would this build work well at 100 cap?
-100 pacheon
-100 fire
-80light
-20snow

I want snow mainly for the 20% snowshield..

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:57 pm
by Crowley
BloodyBlade wrote:Hmm, is there anyone who knows what my phy & mag balance needs to be? =/
Im a bit new to the hybrid things

EDIT:
Would this build work well at 100 cap?
-100 pacheon
-100 fire
-80light
-20snow

I want snow mainly for the 20% snowshield..


At lower lvls it your phy should be at around 95% (with gears on) and mag at around 50% (with gears on). At cap you phy should be close to 100% if not over and mag close to 60%.

I think that 100pacheon/fire 80 light 20 ice will work well at 100. With 80 light you get enough speed/mag atk/parry and with 20 ice the 20% snow shield would be good enough.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:30 am
by BloodyBlade
Tsume wrote:
BloodyBlade wrote:Hmm, is there anyone who knows what my phy & mag balance needs to be? =/
Im a bit new to the hybrid things

EDIT:
Would this build work well at 100 cap?
-100 pacheon
-100 fire
-80light
-20snow

I want snow mainly for the 20% snowshield..


At lower lvls it your phy should be at around 95% (with gears on) and mag at around 50% (with gears on). At cap you phy should be close to 100% if not over and mag close to 60%.

I think that 100pacheon/fire 80 light 20 ice will work well at 100. With 80 light you get enough speed/mag atk/parry and with 20 ice the 20% snow shield would be good enough.

Thanks, about the percentages, can I get these with a normal set? (Without int/str on it)
It will be hard to find such sets, & im not good at alchemy :oops:

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:13 am
by Crowley
You mean...NPC set?...
I went on rev6 to see how much hp/mp this build will have at lvl 90 without any str or int added on. The results were 20k HP and 10k MP so basically you're like a lvl 80 with full blue gears at lvl 90 without any int/str whatsoever. :S

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:13 am
by Bobby
Tsume wrote:
raphaell666 wrote:
Tsume wrote:If you use snow/have a good set you should be just fine again warrior/warlocks

As far as I know that's not quite true. The only way of killing a warlock is by praying that you are not going to fight a good one. If you are, then you are pretty much farcked, and there's not much you can do.


That's not necessarily true. As a str hybrid you'll have quite alot of HP that can tank if required, activating snow won't be a problem as your MP pool is also quite big. What you said is partially true, if you face a good warlock that knows how to use his skills/weapon switch I'd say your chance of victory is around 45%-55%


Idk about u, but tht panic status makes it really hard to tank with or without snow shield. Once they put u under tht hidden+sleep bug, im pretty much screwed from then on.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:10 am
by selenne
no way to kill a warrior lock who knows what hes doing.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:53 pm
by raphaell666
selenne wrote:no way to kill any lock who knows what hes doing.

Fixed. :P

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:33 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_ยด)
the walls might come in handy vs some builds to cancel Knock down or bad status for some time

the glitch works fine during ctf when i put fire wall up and the warriors try Knocking me down

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:52 pm
by DumboDii
I never had problems with warlocks. I am full str bow though. But I have to admit that warlock/clerics are most fun opponents out there.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:50 pm
by Nitro
I'm Warlock/Cleric lv.76 atm, and I can kill some lv.90 already (full Int ones).
I've made few fair PvPs against lv.90 FB +5 garm set with +9 spear.
I won one PvP, he was in snow shield (he wasnt able to hit me at all)... I dont know how bad im going to rape when I get to 90.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:59 pm
by DumboDii
But you can't beat full str archers crits :love:

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:39 pm
by raphaell666
DumboDii wrote:But you can't beat full str archers crits :love:

Unless he has debuffed you, has bless spell on, or is in cleric mode.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:09 pm
by DumboDii
raphaell666 wrote:
DumboDii wrote:But you can't beat full str archers crits :love:

Unless he has debuffed you, has bless spell on, or is in cleric mode.


I just kill him before debuffs. :wink:

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:28 pm
by Nitro
DumboDii wrote:
raphaell666 wrote:
DumboDii wrote:But you can't beat full str archers crits :love:

Unless he has debuffed you, has bless spell on, or is in cleric mode.


I just kill him before debuffs. :wink:


Not really ... While I'm in Cleric mode only Strongbow crit can kill me in 1hit (against someone my level); Healing Cycle + RD fills my HP to 100% in second (+ vigors & HP pots).
And if I bless, nothing really can kill me.

While in Warlock mode, I can stun you (two chances of stunning, 2 spells), and sleep you...
Impotent, meh basicly everything. and when you get into sleep bug, you're dead.

Getting you into sleep bug - Stun / HP Leech; Bloody Trap, sleep...
Doable in less than 4 seconds.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:45 pm
by Crowley
Nitro wrote:Not really ... While I'm in Cleric mode only Strongbow crit can kill me in 1hit (against someone my level); Healing Cycle + RD fills my HP to 100% in second (+ vigors & HP pots).
And if I bless, nothing really can kill me.

While in Warlock mode, I can stun you (two chances of stunning, 2 spells), and sleep you...
Impotent, meh basicly everything. and when you get into sleep bug, you're dead.

Getting you into sleep bug - Stun / HP Leech; Bloody Trap, sleep...
Doable in less than 4 seconds.


Hmm don't know what lvl you are, but probably really high xD
My hybrid archer was only lvl 65 and warlocks/clerics (basically int builds) have around 3-4k hp at that lvl, and my strongbow alone dealt 3k if not more...

Note* I wanna add pics to this guide but I cbf >"<

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:24 am
by raphaell666
DumboDii wrote:I just kill him before debuffs. :wink:

To be honest as far as I know that's very unlikely to happen.

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:06 pm
by -.-
once bow gets kb, it does better in pvp... having stun/kb cancels a lot
don't know why bow would have hard time against warlock if bow phantoms around since bow has longer range than warlock (without being debuffed with range thing but I think it is still slightly longer than warlock still)

might not kill fast but just looking to for a stun using kb/phantom to buy time

Re: [GUIDE] Hybrid Str Archer

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:24 pm
by The Furious Ninja
idk maybe its just me but wouldn't it be a good idea to get at least ice wall or fire wall, it'll help vs warlocks and such at least suck the first hit from an enemy, even if its possible to get past its going to slow them down