Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:25 am

dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:03 am

Is going Hybrid with Pacheon 80/Ice 80/Light80
i use ice for training and light for pvp, i know ice is weak but
i only want ice for mana shield and light for speed
don't really care about fire it give you phy attack power and magic def
but pretty much i 1-2 hit any nukers my level so is kind of useless.
and light is not as strong as fire but is not as weak as ice

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muyo · Post by **muyo** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:37 am

how do u all plan this build farming plan?rush to 80 and farm?

BTW,Pure Str Glaive for the winner..kekekekekek

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:22 am

Farm Then rush to 80.

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:37 am

BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

Post by **Stress** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:39 am

About the 1-hit theory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwVE79b8Nk

This happens in the days before snow shield. With the mars crit, the glaiver would very narrowly have 1-hit the INT with his full HP.

But here's the deal. That was a nuker without ice in garments. A 1:1 build has more physical defense and the snow shield for it. It's unlikely to die in 1-shot against non-sun.

Although, I've seen D2A crit Firarist (glaiver in protectors) in a movie for 24k. That means 12k unzerked. Pretty much dead 1:1 build.

It depends on the situation. 1-shotting a 1:1 build is possible but by no means probable.

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:57 am

i believe int hybrid will die in a row of attacks that containing 1 crit...

but i dont know about 1 shot kill-and-crit-combo for hybrid..and maybe this situation different from full int

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:42 am

BakaFish wrote:
tomiotar wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
YinYarr wrote:How Can Alll Of U Be So Frikkin Stupid
Jade is Right im on 70/70 atm im lvl 56 and own people far in lvl 60
Its a great build
And before u start making such noob comments try it out!
And The Fact is as an archer u shouldnt even need much HP cuz ur enemy should be dead before they even reach u!

FACT: glaiver's crit can 1 hit kill a 1:1 archer.

Thats is too far to be true. No glavier can 1-hit me, actually no player on my server can 1 hit me. I can win and I can loose but I will not be 1-hited.

PD: Im looking at the moment for same masteries than Undutcahble (80 pacheon, 80 fire, 80 ice and I will leave light at 55), actually is 73 pacheon, 73 fire, 70 ice, 55 light and Im farming 1 more month again.

sosun glaives does like 12k crits to me, and im full str

And I use protector not garment like you and when I will be full famred I will have 160 extra physical defence, so a glavier with sun will crit lower on me than on you and I have 14k not 12k. Is too much for you accept that you was wrong when you said twice "1-hit"?

Is obviously true that having more HP is a really good point for pure str, but I hate when pure str put all the others builds on same position and think that only pure str can win on pvp. During all my path up to now Ive owned all possibles builds (just bladers are impossible to kill if they dont want to die on 1vs1), so I ask to pure str that learn to respect the others builds because your ego just make you blind.

IceCrash · Post by **IceCrash** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:49 am

yeah...
i mean, seriously 12k crit for a sosun archer isnt that so incridible..
6k normal hit unzerked.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:13 pm

for str its 6k normal hit, i think 70:70 will be higher, well shud be...........

Hasbin · Post by **Hasbin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:53 pm

SaveMe wrote:Is going Hybrid with Pacheon 80/Ice 80/Light80
i use ice for training and light for pvp, i know ice is weak but
i only want ice for mana shield and light for speed
don't really care about fire it give you phy attack power and magic def
but pretty much i 1-2 hit any nukers my level so is kind of useless.
and light is not as strong as fire but is not as weak as ice .

This really made me doubt. Im thinking ahead, @ the 90 cap. I wanted to be 90 pach/90fire/60light/60ice. But now im doubting about 90pach/90ice/90light/30fire (or 32 for the phy buff and cut 2 out of those other 3 things). Cause the ice on 90 got a huge boost (81 phy def on 80 passive 132 on 90).

Any suggestions?

BTW: 1000th post

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:29 pm

but if u get ice mastery, u will be weaker, and u cnt use the full 50% of mana shield anyway, 40% max, wots the point maxing tree out for 3 of the skills in ice (imbue+phy def)or maybe 4 with ice wall -.-, fire mre dmg, mag def, phy attk, stealth/invisible thing, fire wall and also fire shield......... even though lightning is a must max since it compensates hybrids the most, if i was to go ice i will wear garm not prot.............

SaveMe · Post by **SaveMe** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:22 pm

well im not maxing ice just for mana shield, i just like ice anoying freezing people and it good at jobs sometime always some r'etard the foget pill's and Bamm they are dead. again im not here to be the Top Damage Dealer.

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:02 pm

UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:08 pm

BakaFish wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

ok great...then it would be +7..whats your point?o.0

Hasbin · Post by **Hasbin** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:47 pm

UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

ok great...then it would be +7..whats your point?o.0

haha lol owned

dont even answer his question

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:18 pm

If it is sosun+7 the the crit will be so superb and i dont think 1:1 hybrid can even stand 1 shot non crit...but 1:1 will survive if he also have sosun+7 armor

for 90 cap i suggest pach 90/fire 90/90 light...at 80 cap u can get 1 extra tree at 60...but later at 30..but then again plz think whether ull get past 80^^

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:33 am

lol baka azz raped.

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:37 am

Hasbin wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

ok great...then it would be +7..whats your point?o.0

haha lol owned
dont even answer his question

+7 sosun?

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:41 am

BakaFish wrote:
Hasbin wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

ok great...then it would be +7..whats your point?o.0

haha lol owned
dont even answer his question

+7 sosun?

if it was sosun+7 it would barely be different than if it was sosun+5 it would just look cooler but i will say that i got a 70:70 archer to lvl 30 and it was weak would probably work with spear

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:59 pm

Disconn3cted wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
Hasbin wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
UnDutchable wrote:
BakaFish wrote:dont expect your hp to be at 100% during all times

But then dont say things about '1-crit kill'. Then evereyone can 1 crit someone if their hp is low enough lol.

he was using sosun +5 glaive, what if it was +7?

ok great...then it would be +7..whats your point?o.0

haha lol owned
dont even answer his question

+7 sosun?

if it was sosun+7 it would barely be different than if it was sosun+5 it would just look cooler but i will say that i got a 70:70 archer to lvl 30 and it was weak would probably work with spear

@ lv 30 mentioned this too if you look at the pvp aspect (pve is awesome!!) but now im lv 40 and pure str glaives arn't a problem..however they don't have knock back yet, and most of them are worstly skilled (i've got 62k sp left

)

i kill pure int spear in 1 strong bow, if they have mana shield up SB+AD
(for a pure int i'm not killable with my firewall up....they are death in 2 shots and somethimes they need 4 for me (full int spear 3 1 fore firewall and 2 for my hp

and disconnected......in the 7x bow get STUN AND KNOCK BACk....that's gonna help this build GREAT

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:06 am

nevermind..every build has it own pros and cons...this build not the best but it is a good one...lets put aside which build the best

now, which balance is better for this build..69/70 will get you 79/85 max int/str...and 69/70 will get you just around 69/70 only lower mage damage(maybe 81,83) and 71/68 or 72/66 will get u 81-82/81-82...which is urs?

Doctor_MOS · Post by **Doctor_MOS** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:35 am

muyo wrote:nevermind..every build has it own pros and cons...this build not the best but it is a good one...lets put aside which build the best

now, which balance is better for this build..69/70 will get you 79/85 max int/str...and 69/70 will get you just around 69/70 only lower mage damage(maybe 81,83) and 71/68 or 72/66 will get u 81-82/81-82...which is urs?

i don't know yet, i'm gonna look if i need a bit more hp or a bit more damage =p

i would be interested in glavie's stats, and everyone who's more experienced with this build then i am atm

Pink-Pantha · Post by **Pink-Pantha** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:19 am

i'd like to see what a 6x or 7x char's skills are.. can someone in that lv range please post there

Hasbin · Post by **Hasbin** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:20 pm

muyo wrote:nevermind..every build has it own pros and cons...this build not the best but it is a good one...lets put aside which build the best

now, which balance is better for this build..69/70 will get you 79/85 max int/str...and 69/70 will get you just around 69/70 only lower mage damage(maybe 81,83) and 71/68 or 72/66 will get u 81-82/81-82...which is urs?

Im going 72:66 simply because u can get 82:82 (perfect balanced

) with perfect. Do never look at ur naked balances since u dont fight naked (without blues i mean

).

yamatoghost · Post by **yamatoghost** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:28 pm

is it possible 4 this build 2 work with european chars?

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:29 pm

hehe

im aiming 72/66 too^^ currently 70:69...

why knockback is in 7X^^ should be around 6X to be fair for bow build

Disconn3cted · Post by **Disconn3cted** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:30 pm

yamatoghost wrote:is it possible 4 this build 2 work with european chars?

no

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:40 pm

yes...no...since this build rely on both physical and mage damage...euro dont have imbue so itll not benefit from mage damage...but then again,ill never try euro char yet

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:59 pm

Ok im lv 79 now with the char(still need to farm), and i was pvping. Well this build(currently 69:85) and it does HUGE dmg, and crits are very nice.
Against ints i mostly win, but i have some hard times agains glaivers when they crit, but that will fade away when im fully farmed.
Ill post a movie soon, i know, i will fight against lv 80 non~sun mostly, but u can just check the dmg, and the dmg i recieve against those weps.