Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

pinkpantha · Post by **pinkpantha** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:00 am

thanks for the info...i will start putting all my points into int wrath,
does anyone have anything more to add on what i should do?

EDIT: ive just looked and found that my mag and phy % is 91% and 37%
so can i dump all my points into int untill 70:70 or is it too late?

thanks,

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:45 am

TerenceChill wrote:i am also 70:70 bow wearing protector, but i'll think about switching to armor at D7, coz my physical defence isnt very good tbh. i'll max bow, fire and light (mag dam ftw!) and raise ice up to 50 for having manashield at ~35% i guess. if using manashield...maybe ill stay at protector. hm, ill think about it ^^
all in all i like that build and would always prefer it to a pure str bow, coz it deals much more damage and with manashield you can tank nearly the same like pure str without

good point..change to armor and get some ice^^,since 80:80 balance phy and mage,both fire and light increase this balance...defense?maybe switch to armor...

good or bad idea?

rumblemilitia · Post by **rumblemilitia** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:38 am

70:70 is not a noob i guess if u think about defence and imbue

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:30 pm

Pure str bow >Str hybrid > 70:70 in pvp
70:70> Str hybrid > Pure str bow in pve

MrFudge · Post by **MrFudge** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:32 pm

BakaFish wrote:Pure str bow >Str hybrid > 70:70 in pvp
70:70> Str hybrid > Pure str bow in pve

yea or 70 70 can be annoying and turn on snow shield for 2 minutes and not let anyone win cuz that just creates a stalemate amongst all builds who decide to use it.

WrathShielder · Post by **WrathShielder** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:26 pm

MrFudge wrote:
BakaFish wrote:Pure str bow >Str hybrid > 70:70 in pvp
70:70> Str hybrid > Pure str bow in pve

yea or 70 70 can be annoying and turn on snow shield for 2 minutes and not let anyone win cuz that just creates a stalemate amongst all builds who decide to use it.

I was thinking more in guild and job warring where a 70:70 with snow shield almost becomes a sort of tanker, helping with crits to take down other opponents. Maybe 1v1 with a cape you aren't going to win a lot (maybe you will) but imo that is just a waste of pots now change that to warring/jobbing

Guild War
70:70 bow w/ snow shield
Two pure str glavers are going at it and snow shield bow comes over and helps his teammate and throws about 3 heavy crits on opponent glaver, I see that bow being a great support build.

Jobbing
70:70 bow w/ snow shield
3 thieves go out bow, blader, int spear.....you think that 70:70 bow isn't going to be a good team support when they run up on a 3*

Going it alone....dunno but I for one enjoy team play in jobbing and since I am in a guild I don't think it is hard to find some peeps to go job with and I am sure they will appreciate the support from a 70:70.....but then again I won't know how well that support is going to be for quite a few levels yet. So for me and pve 70:70 ice FTW!!!

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:38 am

baka fish have you ever tried a 70:70 bow build or str or hybrid? from your str>str hybrid? 70:70 equation there's lots of floors, 70:70 bow build is able to kill any build but it's also able to get killed by any build, as for pure str, they maybe able to kill lots of builds fast, but when it comes to another str build unless they have +7 it's guna be sum loooooooong pot war. because pure str maybe gud because of massive hp to tank, but since ur range why not sacrifice hp for much greater overall dmg, pure str doesn't shine unless crit. The 3 builds are as gud as each other, depending on your playing and one is not greater then the other same goes for 70:70 build and str hybrid.

doa_master0 · Post by **doa_master0** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:06 pm

Ugh so you're gonna make me make a new charecter... I dont even have 1 lvl 60 yet and i wanna hurry and make a Bower. :banghead:

Motsuka · Post by **Motsuka** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:44 am

Right now i have a fully farmed 58 70:70 bow character
58 Pacheon
58 ice
58 Light
58 Fire
7D Protector Set
Got owned 1 hit by 54 xbow =S
But i guess this build really relies on equipment

YinYarr · Post by **YinYarr** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:04 pm

How Can Alll Of U Be So Frikkin Stupid
Jade is Right im on 70/70 atm im lvl 56 and own people far in lvl 60
Its a great build
And before u start making such noob comments try it out!
And The Fact is as an archer u shouldnt even need much HP cuz ur enemy should be dead before they even reach u!

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:57 pm

YinYarr wrote:How Can Alll Of U Be So Frikkin Stupid
Jade is Right im on 70/70 atm im lvl 56 and own people far in lvl 60
Its a great build
And before u start making such noob comments try it out!
And The Fact is as an archer u shouldnt even need much HP cuz ur enemy should be dead before they even reach u!

FACT: glaiver's crit can 1 hit kill a 1:1 archer.

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:25 pm

Haha nice, i see this thread is still going on ! xD
And i've just noticed that WIND posted ... lol

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:37 pm

Well i can tell you thing....80:80 archers hits VERY hard. The only thing you need is a good def, as an archer you still recieve alot of hits, and so u must survive a round when the knockback wont knock backs the opponent =)
If you have good gear with a nice bow, this build is rly awesome i must say^^ im lv 77 now btw

Offtopic:
lol what is wind' nickname then on the forum?

Jadekiss · Post by **Jadekiss** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:59 am

Ah that sound good

Well Wind = Wind lol (i think he posted on page 29,30 or 31 im not sure just have a look)

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:16 am

UnDutchable wrote:Well i can tell you thing....80:80 archers hits VERY hard. The only thing you need is a good def, as an archer you still recieve alot of hits, and so u must survive a round when the knockback wont knock backs the opponent =)
If you have good gear with a nice bow, this build is rly awesome i must say^^ im lv 77 now btw

Offtopic:
lol what is wind' nickname then on the forum?

just don't get 1 hitted with that 14k hp

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:56 am

undutchable, what imbue do u use?still the same with previous str bow?

i am making one 70:70 too^^ planning to go fire,light with armor on^^

how do u all achieve 80:80...69/70 or 70/69 or 72,66?

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:30 am

bakafish, glaives aren't as strong as you make them sound, they cannot 1 crit a 70:70 bow, they have around 13k HP, unless glaives has 1 skill in which does atleast 6.5k in 1 attk they cnt 1 crit kill, and with manashield you must be dreaming. Fact my ass

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:34 am

well if you're gonna pvp weaklings, then yeah 6.5k is not bad. also, what don't always rely on that stinking mana shield, it has 3 minutes cooldown. grow up.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:15 pm

no it doesnt, u grow up always thinking in 1 perspective (glaive pwns), mana shield last 2 minutes with 1 min cool down get ur facts right, and glaive has only 1 skill which deals 1 large aprt of dmg which is ghost mars and dat does not deal 6.5k dmg in 1 hit on hybrid even with the new update of skills, i agree the new soul hits very ahrd but it dmgs in 2 parts which gives lots of time to pot, 1 crit death LOL ur the one who need to grow up, glaive atm can not 1 crit death any1, maybe pure int if they have rly abd gear and no using mana shield, even they have 10k HP, and if your spear even more now. But i'm not saying glaive suk they are very strong and hard to kill.

Hasbin · Post by **Hasbin** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:41 pm

BakaFish wrote:well if you're gonna pvp weaklings, then yeah 6.5k is not bad. also, what don't always rely on that stinking mana shield, it has 3 minutes cooldown. grow up.

Do some research before u post. It lasts 2 mins and has only 1, i repeat ONE minute cooldown. All ur post are immature on this topic tbh.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:05 pm

ty proves my point.

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:57 pm

muyo wrote:undutchable, what imbue do u use?still the same with previous str bow?

i am making one 70:70 too^^ planning to go fire,light with armor on^^

how do u all achieve 80:80...69/70 or 70/69 or 72,66?

Nice you're making one too, you wont regret it i think :roll:

Atm i have this: pacheon70 fire68 light60 ice65, but this is just for the farming

My final build will be: Pacheon80 / fire80 / ice80 / light60.
Why light 60? Becuz i only want light for the mag dmg increase, on lv 60 its 15%, and on lv 80 its 17% and i dont think its worth to 'waste' so much sp for only 2% xtra mag dmg. And for the speed....well u can also buy speed scrolls of 100% or make them yourself if you think ur too slow

. And ice lv 80 gives you total of +160 phy def, and you really need a good def with this build

tomiotar · Post by **tomiotar** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:28 pm

BakaFish wrote:
YinYarr wrote:How Can Alll Of U Be So Frikkin Stupid
Jade is Right im on 70/70 atm im lvl 56 and own people far in lvl 60
Its a great build
And before u start making such noob comments try it out!
And The Fact is as an archer u shouldnt even need much HP cuz ur enemy should be dead before they even reach u!

FACT: glaiver's crit can 1 hit kill a 1:1 archer.

Thats is too far to be true. No glavier can 1-hit me, actually no player on my server can 1 hit me. I can win and I can loose but I will not be 1-hited.

PD: Im looking at the moment for same masteries than Undutcahble (80 pacheon, 80 fire, 80 ice and I will leave light at 55), actually is 73 pacheon, 73 fire, 70 ice, 55 light and Im farming 1 more month again.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:59 pm

won't ur dmg be largely decreased without the force piercing force from lightning tree as that gives 16%+ mag attk dmg and 70:70 bow is mre int den str...........

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:59 pm

won't ur dmg be largely decreased without the force piercing force from lightning tree as that gives 16%+ mag attk dmg and 70:70 bow is mre int den str........... and also phantom can be useful for wen u teleport away if you dnt KB successful........

UnDutchable · Post by **UnDutchable** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:44 pm

No it wont be ''largely'' decresed since its only a diffrence of 2% on a scale of 0-17 so far. And yes you could do phantom, but that doesnt save you forever, when u do phantom walk, the opponent can heal again, and since u cant tank alot u need to kill the enemy quick.

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:50 pm

ok, but why ice? only gud thing is phy def, mana shield u cnt use 50% u dnt have enuf mana........... imbue weak..........

muyo · Post by **muyo** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:42 pm

is it true 1:1 cannot use mana shield?i think it suppose to be enough with 12k mp naked at level80

undutch..when u get get knockback make 1 video again plz

for me ill go pach/fire/light and using armor(maybe 30% mana shield).Im using one of my abandon char level 45 spear(with 69/70 just like SG build) and convert him into 1:1 bow :twisted:

bakafish · Post by **bakafish** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:07 am

tomiotar wrote:
BakaFish wrote:
YinYarr wrote:How Can Alll Of U Be So Frikkin Stupid
Jade is Right im on 70/70 atm im lvl 56 and own people far in lvl 60
Its a great build
And before u start making such noob comments try it out!
And The Fact is as an archer u shouldnt even need much HP cuz ur enemy should be dead before they even reach u!

FACT: glaiver's crit can 1 hit kill a 1:1 archer.

Thats is too far to be true. No glavier can 1-hit me, actually no player on my server can 1 hit me. I can win and I can loose but I will not be 1-hited.

PD: Im looking at the moment for same masteries than Undutcahble (80 pacheon, 80 fire, 80 ice and I will leave light at 55), actually is 73 pacheon, 73 fire, 70 ice, 55 light and Im farming 1 more month again.

sosun glaives does like 12k crits to me, and im full str

Ice_Warrior · Post by **Ice_Warrior** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:09 am

the amount of dmg is dealth to ur ratio of hp, 12k is around 60-70% of ur hp, to hybrid 14k hp, 60-70% is about 8-9k, even so 12k dmg isnt 1 hit death -.-