[Guide]Euro, The (in)Complete Guide!

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:33 pm

achmalach wrote:so if i understand correct:

* Each character type has 1 specific mastery tree.
* Besides the main tree of your character you can select a second one (eg. Rogue - Cleric)
* There is no diff. in weapon trees and magical trees like in chinese. Does this mean in euro one mastery tree contains both magical as weapon skills? Magic characters don't use their weapon for physical attacks. And physical characters don't use their weapons for magical attacks. So no, it's not included. But only because they're not there.

Some more questions:

Are skills weapon depended? Yes
What are good character mastery combinations?Doesn't really matter, you can fit all together, most common however are: Main + Cleric/Bard

Thx again

Cardinal · Post by **Cardinal** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:50 pm

@ twelve

is the 1h sword stronger then a chinese blader ?

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:12 pm

Cardinal wrote:@ twelve

is the 1h sword stronger then a chinese blader ?

Good question, my guess is yes. But i'm not 100% sure. tbh i haven't seen a single 1h sword in my whole time on kSro/cSro at least not a lvl 30+

Cardinal · Post by **Cardinal** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 6:18 pm

TwelveEleven wrote:
Cardinal wrote:@ twelve

is the 1h sword stronger then a chinese blader ?

Good question, my guess is yes. But i'm not 100% sure. tbh i haven't seen a single 1h sword in my whole time on kSro/cSro at least not a lvl 30+

ok, thanks for your opinion. I read some where in a different forum that it is stronger then a chinese blader but.... honestly ... I dont think it will be true unless ... like u stated there were more 1h swords.......

I personally have not seen any in csro div 2

lol so I am stuck between axes or 1h sword ...

Noureddin · Post by **Noureddin** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:00 pm

Great_Master wrote:Good short guide :thumbs up:

I'm going 2-handed sword 4 sure

Sig sucks. Avatar sucks, Naruto sucks, And you sure as hell suck.

Anyways,

I'll just do 1 handed sword just like my Chinese character.

Magic is stupid. Bows are good too but needs arrows. Both magic and bows suck in CC(Close Combat).

Great sword/2H swords = Spear for Europe.

But they added other jobs for magic.

Duel axes are kind of stupid. Looks kind of cool. But both will be weak. :/ More hits. But, Less power.

So, Final is Swords.

Just call it what it is:

Sword(s)

Great Sword(s)

Duel-Axes

Dagger(s)/Knife(s)

Rod(s)

Wand(s)

Staff(s)

Vandall · Post by **Vandall** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:19 pm

Noureddin wrote:
Great_Master wrote:Good short guide :thumbs up:

I'm going 2-handed sword 4 sure

Sig sucks. Avatar sucks, Naruto sucks, And you sure as hell suck.

Anyways,

I'll just do 1 handed sword just like my Chinese character.

Magic is stupid. Bows are good too but needs arrows. Both magic and bows suck in CC(Close Combat).

Great sword/2H swords = Spear for Europe.

But they added other jobs for magic.

Duel axes are kind of stupid. Looks kind of cool. But both will be weak. :/ More hits. But, Less power.

So, Final is Swords.

Just call it what it is:

Sword(s)

Great Sword(s)

Duel-Axes

Dagger(s)/Knife(s)

Rod(s)

Wand(s)

Staff(s)

wat

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:56 am

TwelveEleven wrote:
achmalach wrote:so if i understand correct:
* There is no diff. in weapon trees and magical trees like in chinese. Does this mean in euro one mastery tree contains both magical as weapon skills? Magic characters don't use their weapon for physical attacks. And physical characters don't use their weapons for magical attacks. So no, it's not included. But only because they're not there.

Ok as i understand then: both magical as physical skills are in the trees, some require a weapon, some don't

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:43 am

Yep that's it.

Joku · Post by **Joku** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:48 pm

I guess i take 2H and secondary CLERIC. Offensive and defensive.. I think Offensive + Offensive suks.

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:27 pm

Cardinal wrote:
TwelveEleven wrote:
Cardinal wrote:@ twelve

is the 1h sword stronger then a chinese blader ?

Good question, my guess is yes. But i'm not 100% sure. tbh i haven't seen a single 1h sword in my whole time on kSro/cSro at least not a lvl 30+

ok, thanks for your opinion. I read some where in a different forum that it is stronger then a chinese blader but.... honestly ... I dont think it will be true unless ... like u stated there were more 1h swords.......

I personally have not seen any in csro div 2

lol so I am stuck between axes or 1h sword ...

At the higher lvls it IS stronger, because of the buffs.

asked a few 1h bladers

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:43 am

Do you have any more information on a wizard-cleric?

Should these be extremely strong but fragile?

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:32 am

little *bump*

Grim · Post by **Grim** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:34 pm

So from what I'm guessing, Euro chars have no imbue??? So are there attacks stronger to compensate this, because with the 20 sec pot delay, in PvP Chinese dominate, and no imbue, it seems like Euro is for PvE and China is PvP.

To Roleplay, or to PvP, that is the question. :banghead:

Vandall · Post by **Vandall** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:55 pm

Grim wrote:So from what I'm guessing, Euro chars have no imbue??? So are there attacks stronger to compensate this, because with the 20 sec pot delay, in PvP Chinese dominate, and no imbue, it seems like Euro is for PvE and China is PvP.

To Roleplay, or to PvP, that is the question.

i think in some cases euro chars can win in 1 vs 1

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:09 am

Grim wrote:So from what I'm guessing, Euro chars have no imbue??? So are there attacks stronger to compensate this, because with the 20 sec pot delay, in PvP Chinese dominate, and no imbue, it seems like Euro is for PvE and China is PvP.

To Roleplay, or to PvP, that is the question.

You'll see that euro aint bad in 1v1

nofearz · Post by **nofearz** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:01 pm

GaS wrote:I'm still in between a dagger rogue or a 2H sword warrior

Yes me too which one have more damage or kill quicker?

Davids · Post by **Davids** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:26 pm

nofearz wrote:
GaS wrote:I'm still in between a dagger rogue or a 2H sword warrior

Yes me too which one have more damage or kill quicker?

Id pick rouge for the invisibility skill, mask skill and "adopt a mob" skill

I dont know much about warrior special abilities though

nofearz · Post by **nofearz** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:27 pm

how do you get essence of death?

Vandall · Post by **Vandall** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:28 am

nofearz wrote:how do you get essence of death?

u mean the mask or the skill?

xdiviner · Post by **xdiviner** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:38 am

i had a question..... i want to be a bard and was going to just stick to the bard tree... since its the only tree available to the greatest weapon in euro the harp.... should i just stick to that tree and lvl everything up... & that 2 mastery lvl after lvl ten.... does that mean i can put both into the bard mastery lvl? ahh this is soo confusing... please help me ... do i have to do 2 trees? or is it better with 2 trees.... i really dunno because its a bard afterall and you kinda would have to switch weapons..

lalaxd · Post by **lalaxd** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:32 am

does this sp gaining in 8 man pt work also with chinese char?

achmalach · Post by **achmalach** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:59 am

xdiviner wrote:i had a question..... i want to be a bard and was going to just stick to the bard tree... since its the only tree available to the greatest weapon in euro the harp.... should i just stick to that tree and lvl everything up... & that 2 mastery lvl after lvl ten.... does that mean i can put both into the bard mastery lvl? ahh this is soo confusing... please help me ... do i have to do 2 trees? or is it better with 2 trees.... i really dunno because its a bard afterall and you kinda would have to switch weapons..

as from what i know/read it's sometimes easier to get a second tree for instance to compensate a bit the negative characteristics of your build.
And yes for some skills you will indeed need to swap between weapons to be able to execute them.

Hope this helps you a bit

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:06 am

xdiviner wrote:i had a question..... i want to be a bard and was going to just stick to the bard tree... since its the only tree available to the greatest weapon in euro the harp.... should i just stick to that tree and lvl everything up... & that 2 mastery lvl after lvl ten.... does that mean i can put both into the bard mastery lvl?Yes, but you can't pass your own lvl with your mastery lvl. ahh this is soo confusing... please help me ... do i have to do 2 trees?No or is it better with 2 trees....Can be i really dunno because its a bard afterall and you kinda would have to switch weapons..

JackB4u3r · Post by **JackB4u3r** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:03 pm

Well, 0 gap all the way and have 1 masterie tree, i don't think that you will have enough sp. I'm a 2-handed warrior and got General skills and 2-handed sword skills. At lvl 30 i didn't have enough sp to lvl everything :shock:

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I think that you should keep a 1 or 2 gap from time to time.

xdiviner · Post by **xdiviner** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:14 pm

Great_Master wrote:Well, 0 gap all the way and have 1 masterie tree, i don't think that you will have enough sp. I'm a 2-handed warrior and got General skills and 2-handed sword skills. At lvl 30 i didn't have enough sp to lvl everything .

I think that you should keep a 1 or 2 gap from time to time.

so are you just sticking to the warrior tree? or adding another tree?

dungtran · Post by **dungtran** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:17 am

Can someone give me some comment on Wizzard+rogue(crossbow) and or rogue(crossbow)+wizzard.

thankyou

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:25 am

dungtran wrote:Can someone give me some comment on Wizzard+rogue(crossbow) and or rogue(crossbow)+wizzard.

thankyou

Crossbows have ONLY Physical damage so is better to be pure STR, staves (wizard's weapon) have ONLY Magic attack so it's better to be pure INT.

IMO rogue skills (not the weapon ones) don't worth the SP... If you will be INT, i wouldn't suggest to take Rogue as a sub, and Wizard mastery has almost only attack skills which, if you aren't pure INT, are rather useless.

dungtran · Post by **dungtran** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:31 am

oops, i forgot to take the str/int build into consideration. I also have another question.

Does warlock do wide are of damage like wizzard does? or does it just do damage on one mop at a time? ^_^ and also what race would fit with wizzard the best?

HyorunmarouZ · Post by **HyorunmarouZ** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:40 am

dungtran wrote:oops, i forgot to take the str/int build into consideration. I also have another question.

Does warlock do wide are of damage like wizzard does? or does it just do damage on one mop at a time? ^_^ and also what race would fit with wizzard the best?

Warlocks can only attack one target as far as i know... it's the main advantage of the wizard... lots of AoE nukes.

And race?... Wizard is an Euro class... Only Euro has this "classes" system. Chinese chars will be exactly the same they are now...

dungtran · Post by **dungtran** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 5:49 am

ya i mean class, which class do u think fit the best with wizzard?