Bow build 70:70 GUIDE Updated 3.0!

[FuryAngle]

jadakiss ur so stupid this guide is a total waste of time go play barbie bitch

Hes making a hybrid barbie too, Part Ken PArt Barbie, Can you guess which part is Ken?

[Zing]

This thread turned very shitty, because of all the hostilities.
I would like to add that the majority of those who had built and played a confirmed 70:70 build have said they (if I am not mistaken) love/like it and would choose this build over the pure STR build.

[Eukanuba]

I did at one time make a 43 Archer Hybrid, it was near 70:70, My worst build ever, faired very badly in PVP even though i had very good gear and wepons.

So you've created a character like this, but you just had no idea how your stat points were arranged exactly...right....

And its nice to see somebody so "educated" speak in their true colours.

It's not my fault that you are so full of yourself that you couldn't realize I was mocking you the whole time.

And why are you even on this topic?

Certainly not post whoring like you, Mister 88-post-count-in-two-days.

You dont claim to have a decent character, for all we know, you could be a low level noob that reads to many guides.

So you're going to hold it against me that I don't claim to be the almighty god of Silkroad? For all we know, you're just some noob who claims to have a high level.

I would bet dollars to dimes that if we took a poll of everyone who has read this entire thread, they would overwhelmingly say that the things I have said were vastly more interesting and pertinent to the topic than the drivel that you've spit out so far.

[Jadekiss]

I know enough and have facts and videos as my evidence. Where is yours?(Once again, saying Wind/Samara is not enough.)

Dude pls reread my posts... i said i cant make a vid of my char because he is only lvl 24 and still farming the 75K sp where the ..... can i lvl fast to lvl 70+ withouth a gap and being fully farmed ? (75K = max all skills on lvl 52 only)
now lets stop being rude here
and i also mentioned that it depends on the gear and how u play your char ! i also said that you can play any char whatever you want... but did you read that ? seems not to be :/

jadakiss ur so stupid this guide is a total waste of time go play barbie bitch

ok i will play with my barbie.... are you happy now ? alright

Hes making a hybrid barbie too, Part Ken PArt Barbie, Can you guess which part is Ken?

sure dude... you are so funny..

I would like to add that the majority of those who had built and played a confirmed 70:70 build have said they (if I am not mistaken) love/like it and would choose this build over the pure STR build.

agree

[judaiskariot]

Certainly not post whoring like you, Mister 88-post-count-in-two-days.

Haahahh that is true regarding FuryAngle..

Lol that guy just showed up a week and a half ago on server with lvl 72 char and nooneknows who he is (hacked for sure) and then started to insult people and do the PVPs whole day (nothing but PVP's) and now he is suddenly on forum and he flames, flames, flames..

I dont know what is his damage but he is not normal, and he doesnt have any sense of humor..

[Dempster]

I've had just about enough of this bullshit, I'm going to go make 2 bow characters, lvl them up to 32, one will be a "70:70" hybrid, one will be full str. ill post videos of them pvping to end all this bullshit.

[Jadekiss]

@Dempster.... you cant compare thoseb uild on that low lvl... it wont make sense... it depends always on the gear and weapon also on your enemy !
and if this is bullshit for you why you want to make those to char ? just leave it and let other ppl do the job i have already some ppl who are already 42+ and still like the build they arent really full farmed and they also dont get the 80:80 balance yet.... on low lvl to get the 80:80 balance would a waste of money recommend on lvl 64+ almost 70+
but not 32.....
and i also said that this build will be very expensive
(not only for this build, but if you want to have succes then you need a lot of money for the gears)

[Dempster]

@Dempster.... you cant compare thoseb uild on that low lvl... it wont make sense... it depends always on the gear and weapon also on your enemy !
and if this is bullshit for you why you want to make those to char ? just leave it and let other ppl do the job i have already some ppl who are already 42+ and still like the build they arent really full farmed and they also dont get the 80:80 balance yet.... on low lvl to get the 80:80 balance would a waste of money recommend on lvl 64+ almost 70+
but not 32.....
and i also said that this build will be very expensive
(not only for this build, but if you want to have succes then you need a lot of money for the gears)

They would be white npc gear to make things fair. and i said 70:70 balance like your thread has been claiming is godly. the weapons will also be npc. Aren't you like lvl 24 anyways? so this will be a good projection of how lousy your char will be , I'll start the chars when I get home, I'm at work right now :p

Edit: I've discovered that to obtain 70:70 at lvl 32 you would need something adding 1 stat, whether it be int or str... a nude 32 char can have 69:70, so i will find a ring or something with 1 str/or int on it and add stats accordingly. (both chars will get a bonus of one stat)

[Dempster]

You know what, I'm going to be real friendly to that "Watcher" and "L1ttleb1tch" of his and see if i can get him to send me some screen shots of his char build, (he's a hybrid archer... so is she... and they fall down in record breaking time)

[Jadekiss]

Ok finally i made 2 chars now on lvl 24 one full str archer and one 70:69 balance and both got 9 gap same skill and they are naked (so no str bonus and int bonus)
first of all i will post the screens of the full str char

Stats:
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-16-07]_50.jpg[/img]

Normal shoot + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-16-57]_31.jpg[/img]

anti devil + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-16-36]_57.jpg[/img]

anti devil crit + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-16-22]_98.jpg[/img]

ok now the 70:69 balance one:

Stats:
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-23-54]_19.jpg[/img]

normal shoot + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-25-21]_64.jpg[/img]

anti devil + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-25-36]_64.jpg[/img]

anti devil crit + imbue
[img]http://www.gwebspace.de/airnike/SRO[2007-02-1617-26-15]_18.jpg[/img]


so that was it .... both use the SAME sos 24+3 bow and hitting the same mobs... how you can see the crit of the 70:70 ( 70:79) is higher than of the full str also the other shots are higher.... so i think the calculation of the crit is prove now....

[Dempster]

all this proves is int is more damage than str points.... which does not make a character "Best 2007 build", your char has so little hp and defence, that it CANNOT tank a pure str of it's lvl, and you seem to forget to post ss of skills and gear. (you could easily have switched the bow)

not to mention how easy it is to photoshop. i will post a video

you belive less than 10 damage warrants this as proof that your build roxxors? (when you would have done this multiple times to get a high dmg on your int char im sure)

10 damage or 600 hp... HMMMM which build there is better?

[Dempster]

one character has mutiple stats more than the other, i just checked the skill builder, you effing noob delevelling is fun aint it (your int char was higher lvl, and you added stats on it, or that is not the same bow)

[Jadekiss]

@Dempster ... omg i said they are naked.... how can the gear change the attack power of they are naked ?
the bow is the same a normal sos 24+3 no int and no str only crit 9 that is the fact believe if or not... i dont have to change the bow to make the 70:69 bow char do more damage tzzzz that is really lame
photoshop ? dont be so arrogant dude i posted the screens and i hope other ppl will see it too that that is right now the fact.. the full str bow dont do a higher crit he has only more hp but is much weaker than the 70:70
and there is another example:
full str has 93% phy and 34% mag = 127% right ?
but the hybrid archer has totally 139%.... hmm what is better ? yeah you got it the hybrid

[Jadekiss]

one character has mutiple stats more than the other, i just checked the skill builder, you effing noob delevelling is fun aint it (your int char was higher lvl, and you added stats on it, or that is not the same bow)

lool yea right i forgot that my 70:70 bow was lvl 25 i was farming how you can see on the SP im sry for that mistake.... but read my post which i just posted befor this one....
sry again for the lil mistake, i fully forgot that point
but you dont have the right to call me a noob everyone forget something we are all human.... dont be rude

[Dempster]

how many times must i say it, %'s themselves on balances do

ABSOLUTELY F*CKING NOTHING

but for the rest of you who are curious about my accusations of his false screen shots, below is a screenie of what a lvl 24 70:70 (or 69 rather) would have with his amount of hp

note the mp/hp



note the mp/hp

[Dempster]

one char has 5 stat points more than the other, and that grants you 10 damage?... i guess if you did this fairly your int char has LESS DAMAGE and less hp, defence than the str char... I kinda feel bad for you... so pathetic... nah not really

dont be rude

oh please, i saw what you named this thread at first, piss off


In the end you have proven that your build is useless, you have what was it , 7 damage higher on a critical than a pure str char (mind you, you have higher stats)

but you sacraficed 600+ hp, Huhm, whats going to win the battle an extra 7 damage?(which would not even be there had you done this fairly), or all that hp? please go and make claims on some other build, or rather go fabricate something on another build.

[Jadekiss]

Dempster.... i thought i have a brain dude... than use it man... if the crit of this build is still higher than of the full str bow.... than the discussion about crit crit crit is done now !
but the fact is this bow build has a higher avarage damage which can kill the enemy fast enough before they really hurt you !
you said this build cant kill a same lvl full str (glavier) ? or something like that ? im not sure
but i pvp a friend ... he is lvl 26 he has a lvl 26+3 glavier and has only 1 gap
im lvl 24 have 9 gap which means i sux but i have a sos 24+3... but i still have the low lvl skills.... but what happened ? i killed the glavier ( i hav with gear a balance of 77:77) he could only kill me when he crit twice + some hits.... but if i keep him on distance i own him all the time !
he said that i cant be lvl 24 with 9 gap.... so ? still think i cant own full str glavier on same lvl or higher ? btw he wears armor which make the situation harder for me

[Dempster]

you ramble too much, and your english sucks just as much as your build does, I don't even see why I'm replying to your moronic posts anymore

You believe a lvl80 noob ass 70:70 archer will crit more than a full str one will. You sir are an idiot.

[DeRanged]

Hey Jade... i dont know if u gotton my PM or not but ..i am doing ur build right now on my bow guy... I am currently lvl 32 with a 9 lvl gap. SOS+2 only 6 crit though..and wearing protector... I am killing black robbers right now 4 hits... is that good? i am currently farming obviously and i have 27K of sp...the goal is 100k..and cloose the gap to a 5 lvl and just lvl regularly...is that good?

i like this build soo far... but ofcourse i havent tried much of anything...except a full str blader.... so just let me know if i am on the right track... and what should i expect....

Oh and i think u answered this question already..but the 70:70 is without the clothes right?

Thank You for the build!

[Jadekiss]

@Dempster whatever dude.... then quit posting in this thread if my english sux and my build too
call me whatever you want if you are so arrogant.... still calling me noob/idiot how lame ! my english isnt that good but i think ppl can still understand me so ..... off

@DeRanged... hmm i didnt check my message box
first of all.. yeah the 70:70 balance is without gears + weapon + accesoir
which may have int or str bonus on it
what is your balance right now with gears ?
and can you kill the robbers fast enough before they hit you (maybe 1 hit)?
np you are welcome... but you dont have to do this build its your choice

[NuclearSilo]

lol Dempster big pure str defender. It's ok, u have the right to defend. But unfortunatly, the pics said all : higher crit, 50 damages different means 500 damages extra in 10 shots which compensate the lost HP. Since the strategy hit & run is apply, u dont need to be a dead meat tanker .
Btw, there still a problem with your build, Jadekiss. Do u know that mob have same phy/mag defence as a player in armor? Im pretty sure, testing damage on player wearing garment, the result will be different, since 70:70 based mostly on mag power. Garment has low phy defence so pure str will have advantage.

[judaiskariot]

lol... maybe your right jade but your str char has total of 155 points
and hybrid 160 points..

That is lame dude.. i didnt expect that

[Jadekiss]

@NuclearSilo yeah i agree in that point... i didnt try it against a garment player..
but the hit & run tactic is still doing a great job =)


@judaiskariot yeah i already said i feel sry about that mistake i didnt notice that... because i was farming with the 70:70 and then i just thought i need to make a full str same lvl same gap and same weapon ... to try out the damage result ... but i fully forgot the 5 points bonus

alright... i wrote Wind a message and he wrote back he said he will post here in the next few days... so i hope he will prove something

[judaiskariot]

Lol you shouldnt wory about me.. i have a hybrid and i love it.. i dont care what people has to say..

[Alfred]

@Dempster whatever dude.... then quit posting in this thread if my english sux and my build too
call me whatever you want if you are so arrogant.... still calling me noob/idiot how lame ! my english isnt that good but i think ppl can still understand me so ..... off

+1

[Jadekiss]

Lol you shouldnt wory about me.. i have a hybrid and i love it.. i dont care what people has to say..

hehe alright dude =) i respect that !
go your own way and make whatever you want.. what build you want.. and play it however you want
btw its just a game

[judaiskariot]

My point exactly

But one thing is strange though i was searching for guides by @Dempster,
and couldnt find any.. I thought i will find at least 5 or 6 ??

So strange

[Da_Realest]

Dude pls reread my posts... i said i cant make a vid of my char because he is only lvl 24 and still farming the 75K sp where the ..... can i lvl fast to lvl 70+ withouth a gap and being fully farmed ? (75K = max all skills on lvl 52 only)
now lets stop being rude here

I never was rude when I said that. You're getting mad again if you think I was rude just for saying that. It doesn't matter whether you are farmed or not to prove the build. Just about all players on sro are unfarmed unless they are at the cap and some are still unfarmed.

and i also mentioned that it depends on the gear and how u play your char ! i also said that you can play any char whatever you want... but did you read that ? seems not to be :/

I did read. And since you never gotten to a very high lvl, you don't understand the importance of alchemy. ANY, I repeat, ANY build can do well in PvP with that much alchemy. You have to have almost perfect alchemy on your gear to get 80:80. That doesn't prove that your build is good. It proves that your gear is so much better. You shouldn't even argue anymore unless you're going to compare someone who has an average amount of alchemy or no alchemy since 90% of people playing this game will never get that much alchemy.

If your 70:70 bow was so good as you make it seem, then all that alchemy shouldn't be necessary.

Do you know anything about testing? Those pics don't mean anything. There is something called ATTACK RATING. One minute the damage could be lower than the pure str, one minute it could be higher. That is why you test it many times to get the average. You don't just test it one time and say the other is better. I already know a 70:70 will do a higher constant damage than a pure str but I don't think it will in criticals.

You also cheated with stat points as Dempster proven. Yes, those few stat points will make a difference in damage.

Also, gear IS greater than build and skill level. Of course you beat the glaive. An sos lvl 24+3 bow is about the same as an lvl 29 bow. It didn't matter if you are unfarmed or not. 90% of the people between the levels 20-64 are unfarmed also. Just because he has one level gap does not mean he is farmed. I've killed level 63 nukers with lvl 45 skills at lvl 58. Does that mean anything? No.

With that much alchemy, ANY can win in PvP. You proved things that we already know in this topic. Gear is better than your level, the way you play, doesn't matter how farmed you are.

[empaZ]

Lvl 24 doesnt show anything O.o get 2 lvl 80 and see

[Jadekiss]

@Da_realest yeah in some point i agree with you but can you explain me why a pure char has totally a lower % balance ? i mentioned that already : my pure char has 127% and my hybrid 137%
on the higher cap it will be the same that the 70:70 hybrid bow has totally a higher % balance...but why ? i dont know
dont you think if the % is higher than usually the char will be better ?
at lvl 80 a 70:70 bow with full int and str equipment that means 57 int and str (usually 55 but through the flag 57)
has a balance of 81:85 = 166
and a full str something about 140-150 but im not sure
i only know that it was pretty much lower...