[GUIDE]69:70 Heuksal

[Verfo]

Q: how fast does it level?

Q: what level mobs should i grind on?

[Barotix]

Q: how fast does it level?


A: It levels pretty quickly if you know what you're doing.

Q: what level mobs should i grind on?

A: The mobs are in the guide.

[CloudStrider]

Is this good at 100 gap?

Stress said after 90, go all INT, Baro, thoughts on this?

[pizzagirl2008]

we need some pvp vids to demonstrate your guide in action

[borat2]

we need some pvp vids to demonstrate your guide in action

pvp vids are usually a bad way to compare chars since most people who record movies never show the real situations only usually the pvp they win.

I do have a friend with exactly this build can ask her to record few fair fights to show what this build can do.

[XMoshe]

So at 33-35 we gotta grind on blood ongs or maongs? ;D

Very nice guide tho, well done.

[I Pk I]

Just to point something out at lvl 33-35 when you say move to Euro why not just kill the DW ongs they give chinese drops and less people, I think.

[Barotix]

Just to point something out at lvl 33-35 when you say move to Euro why not just kill the DW ongs they give chinese drops and less people, I think.

IMO it depends on your server situation and timezone. When I played I could always find a good empty hill to grind on.

Is this good at 100 gap?

Stress said after 90, go all INT, Baro, thoughts on this?
Is this good at 100 gap?

Stress said after 90, go all INT, Baro, thoughts on this?

Some people say if you're pure int you should hybridize after 90. Others say if you're Hybrid you should go pure after level 90. I think the point of doing either one is to compensate for the skills your going to have to start giving up at 110+. IMO I think you can go as high as 100 as Hybrid or Pure.

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Will finish Glaiver part tonight and start Blader section.

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nice guide...

but what happens when they dont let you put up wall :S it takes bit of time and ugh... they could walk away and turn it into a nuking fight :S

[Barotix]

nice guide...

but what happens when they dont let you put up wall :S it takes bit of time and ugh... they could walk away and turn it into a nuking fight :S

Even without a wall if you play it smart you should win. For some reason this build does really well against int builds.

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how do you fight galvie/blader then without wall and they use 20-23% snow shield as well

I havent seen this build before, it sounds good because i've seen 70:70 bow and your thing would attack as strong but faster, but is it enough for str builds? galvie can use 15 mag buff, the blader could turn on new shield buff for more damage

[Cerus]

Damage wise, it is VERY VERY good.
Others im not sure.

[Floor]

doh.. i still dont understand how to put stats.. 2 STR 1 INT forever? Or like equally, 2 str 1 int , 2 int 1 str.

[omgomg123]

hey barotix wat if i wear gars?... u should to wear prot... but i like gars for speed and less mp consumtion...wat do u say?

[foudre]

doh.. i still dont understand how to put stats.. 2 STR 1 INT forever? Or like equally, 2 str 1 int , 2 int 1 str.

when you lvl get naked, the average lvl for this build will be 2 int and 1 str to mantain the balance, but dont' watch that watch your balance ratios, but every so many lvls to matain the balance right you may have to add 2 str to keep it, but make sure int is at least 70 before adding str

[Floor]

doh.. i still dont understand how to put stats.. 2 STR 1 INT forever? Or like equally, 2 str 1 int , 2 int 1 str.

when you lvl get naked, the average lvl for this build will be 2 int and 1 str to mantain the balance, but dont' watch that watch your balance ratios, but every so many lvls to matain the balance right you may have to add 2 str to keep it, but make sure int is at least 70 before adding str

thanks for clearing it up. 2 INT 1 STR mostly and check ratio , when needed 2 str 1 int.

[Barotix]

how do you fight galvie/blader then without wall and they use 20-23% snow shield as well

I havent seen this build before, it sounds good because i've seen 70:70 bow and your thing would attack as strong but faster, but is it enough for str builds? galvie can use 15 mag buff, the blader could turn on new shield buff for more damage

I'll cover this now in the glaiver section.

hey barotix wat if i wear gars?... u should to wear prot... but i like gars for speed and less mp consumtion...wat do u say?

You lose physical defense.

[Verfo]

is that build good enough to kill a warrior, i mean they have their def buffs and usually have cleric buffs as well, now you dont do that big of a damage on them since you do 50% physical damage.

[Barotix]

is that build good enough to kill a warrior, i mean they have their def buffs and usually have cleric buffs as well, now you dont do that big of a damage on them since you do 50% physical damage.

It isn't 50% physical damage. It's more like 20-30%

[Stress]

I'd like to bring the ultimate example of why maintaining DPS is required and why using low DPS combos can get you killed. Here's a fight won by skill, which could easily have gone the other way, if the heuksal user had been competent:

http://www.wegame.com/watch/Sro_Aege_Pu ... iacKiller/

Start watching carefully at around 2:00. Fight peaks at 2:10.

[BalkanFanaticS]

i rly doubt if this build would be good for anything in the "wild"

id like to see a VIDIJO

[foudre]

i rly doubt if this build would be good for anything in the "wild"

id like to see a VIDIJO

good at 1 vs 1 pvp
fast grinding (2 hit on lvl things possibly 3 hit)
able to tank half way and good when snow sheild is up

what do you mean by the wild then?

[BalkanFanaticS]

i rly doubt if this build would be good for anything in the "wild"

id like to see a VIDIJO

good at 1 vs 1 pvp
fast grinding (2 hit on lvl things possibly 3 hit)
able to tank half way and good when snow sheild is up

what do you mean by the wild then?

i mean in action , cuz text(guide) is in theory/speculation

[Barotix]

i rly doubt if this build would be good for anything in the "wild"

id like to see a VIDIJO

good at 1 vs 1 pvp
fast grinding (2 hit on lvl things possibly 3 hit)
able to tank half way and good when snow sheild is up

what do you mean by the wild then?

i mean in action , cuz text(guide) is in theory/speculation

All of my experience with the pure str fire glaive is compiled into this thread with several modifications to fit the advantages and disadvantages this build has. It isn't in theory or speculation but if you insist:

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BTW, Foudre got it spot on. Good at 1 vs 1 PVP (my preference) and good at solo grinding (another preference). Good at group PvP when Snow Shield is up.

In the video KaWs doesn't even rock a Snow Shield. I doubt video evidence will be enough to satisfy you. In about 3 months he'll have a new 70:70 spear.
80:80 = 69:70 naked @80cap. Balance should be higher now.

[Floor]

These are all 80. Any 90 vids?

[Hustlar]

99% of those videos the enemy sucks, just doing some random glavie skills, no tactic involved, says nothing to me if hybrid 70:70/80:80 is good.

I'd love to see a skilled blader against this build.

[Barotix]

99% of those videos the enemy sucks, just doing some random glavie skills, no tactic involved, says nothing to me if hybrid 70:70/80:80 is good.

I'd love to see a skilled blader against this build.

Are not most PvP videos like that; therefore, no build can be properly assessed using videos. A video will not tell you if it's good or bad because even if the enemies were good you can still claim their gear was worse. The underdog build always has the hardest time proving itself but the goal of a guide is to help others emulate this build. There isn't 90 PvP because this is a under-used build. If a Blader has difficulty killing a 8:1 Spear, then it will have even more difficulty killing a 69:70 spear. The ability to tank and output large amounts of DPS makes this a good build. There were no videos of 70:70 bows when people first made the guides. Now 70:70 is a common choice for the bow, I want the same results for 69:70 spear.

[DrWicked]

So after 110 cap this build sucks ?

[Floor]

So after 110 cap this build sucks ?

after 110 cap no one will play this crappy game <.< This game just sux :S I just like pvp'ing and unique hunting, 100+ cap , your going to farm you ass off... Im totally going to quit if the sp system stays like that.

[Barotix]

So after 110 cap this build sucks ?

No it won't suck. If Joymax does their part most builds will keep going strong. After 100 you have to make the choice of staying Hybrid are going pure from that point on.