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i thought this guide explained rouges perfectly...gratz
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im thinkn bout going for xbow/2h, is that a good idea?
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nice guide learned 1 thing new today !! :D
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Midnite91 wrote:im thinkn bout going for xbow/2h, is that a good idea?


I think if your a Warrior and you choose rogue as a subclass thats not a bad idea, there are better one bu it not bad. If your a Rogue and you choose warrior as a subclass theres no point and its pretty much a waste unless you want to basically be able play as a rogue AND as a warrior. The point of choosing a subclass is to make playing as a rogue easier not replace it.
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if i am going to go both daggers and xbow do i get every single skill? also, i am going for warlock as sub, which skills do i take?
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all that info is mentioned in the guide :banghead:
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nvm for the warlock thing i said, but nothing says which skills to take....
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I just would like to say: Thank you Xenmas!

This guide made me make a Rogue character after I got hacked. And now I enjoy silkroad more then I've ever done before.

Thank you :)
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Weirdo wrote:I just would like to say: Thank you Xenmas!

This guide made me make a Rogue character after I got hacked. And now I enjoy silkroad more then I've ever done before.

Thank you :)

same...except the hacked part. i did notice that there are no guides on Dagger Skills. i wonder why... :wink:

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Psyx wrote:It's not 'The best defence is a good offence', it's


---The best offence is a good defence---




That's why people make so many Wizards >.>
The 18th Century English proverb (contrary to your statement) is "Attack is the best form of defence."
The proverb is usually quoted in the US as "the best defense is a good offense".

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Grandpa wrote:
Psyx wrote:It's not 'The best defence is a good offence', it's


---The best offence is a good defence---




That's why people make so many Wizards >.>
The 18th Century English proverb (contrary to your statement) is "Attack is the best form of defence."
The proverb is usually quoted in the US as "the best defense is a good offense".

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when u are in the lower lvls in a rogue char how do u sp farm? what is needed and how? When to start sp farming and what skill to use and so on can somebody tell me.....And great guide
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Here's the follow up to my previous Rogue/Warlock vid. Bit more variety in opponents. Hope people get a better idea how to play the build.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzZ7pAT8Ung

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Thanx a lot, great guide. Rogue/Warlock sounds like it'll fit my playstyle like a glove, challenging and rewarding. =)

Should I really bother with medical race and magical ravage btw? Doesn't those just lower their defenses against magical attacks, which I don't use at all rite? Or should I just take those for the teamplay with wizards ??
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so rogues can party and be good at solo? and also, how much stronger are daggers than xbow at lvl 40 cause i mite not get both until the cap when i start farming. thanks.
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xbow is always stronger than daggers in pve...
even if daggers can hit more, you waste time getting there to hit them

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-.- wrote:xbow is always stronger than daggers in pve...
even if daggers can hit more, you waste time getting there to hit them


scud and faster than average reflexes+putting some thought in to it works as well. And dagger rogues don't spam f*ckin kb which has to be one of the most annoying things ever.
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Summanus wrote:
-.- wrote:xbow is always stronger than daggers in pve...
even if daggers can hit more, you waste time getting there to hit them


scud and faster than average reflexes+putting some thought in to it works as well. And dagger rogues don't spam f*ckin kb which has to be one of the most annoying things ever.


You guys are talking solo play VS party play.

Daggers are best for Party Grinds Xbow is best for Solo Grinds.
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The single fastest lvling build there is, is 1 gap Xbow/bard with robes .... believe me, I played it, and I outlvled all the bots even though they played 24/7 and I played 3 hours max a day .... you can kill mobs that are 6-10 lvls above you and because of robes + bard you get insane movement speed + the range from the weapon is killing mobs as quick as possible ... the downfall is that you have no survivabilty what so ever, so be prepared to die ;)

but hey would you prefer a low lvl char who has survivabilty or a high lvl char so that you can at least kill high lvls :P
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The best guide i´ve ever seen, right now im farming my lvl 80 rogue/warlock. Rogues FTW
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Update!

I added the Advanced Party Play Tips in the Partying section. I hope those help those of us who know how to play the game. I'd like to add some graphics or something to make the guide look nicer but whatev, also im going to start removing some of those broken image links.

Right now im writing up a Skillz guide complete with Rogue Builds, SP count, Descriptions, Uses, etc. I've been saying i would do this for awhile but i have some free time now. I'll be Adding it into the Guide in a link because im going to make a new Topic for it, I haven't decided if im going to have mods lock it when im done and have you refer all questions to this topic or allow discussion inside the skills guide topic. We'll see.

Also im sorry if i don't answer some of your PMs i open them all and then get back to them if i can but im not really a PM person unless i have to be. You'd get a better response posting in here >>

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Well i've got work to do, thanks for reading the guide.
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Nice guide cant wait for you to add on :D
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You are doing an amazing job with this guid, its just perfect. i always recommend this guide to those who want to try a rogue character, congratulations and please keep improving the guide, i´ll send you a video of my character as soon i finish it.
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wow awesome guide
but!
u say warriors are useless without iron skin
i raped your ass without it -.-
and for the party section
i love having rogues in my party
they are full of win
especiall you :P u saved our asses lots of times, and lured extremely well
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1H warriors are a problem for dagger users. Xbowers will have an easier time with them. :P
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Great update with the "Advanced Party Play" (it's been a while since I read this, so don't know when you added this). When people are up to APP, then they start to realize how usefull Rogues really are, but I think that before 10% of my server can play APP, it'll be 2015... :wink:

By the way, 1 question for you? How many guys have you met on your server that know how to party, let alone the fact that rogue are usefull?

In my server I haven't met more than that I can count on 2 hands ;-)

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didnt see you mention this

but if you are using transport animal, you can stealth+ride animal and entire thing is in stealth too

makes following harder, if they dont know to follow shadow (not sure if they fixed shadow or not, havent traded in a long time)

but you could always stealth, ride a bit, get off while in stealth then walk around behind them and prick then continue on

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Mefra wrote:Great update with the "Advanced Party Play" (it's been a while since I read this, so don't know when you added this). When people are up to APP, then they start to realize how usefull Rogues really are, but I think that before 10% of my server can play APP, it'll be 2015... :wink:

By the way, 1 question for you? How many guys have you met on your server that know how to party, let alone the fact that rogue are usefull?

In my server I haven't met more than that I can count on 2 hands ;-)


what server are you on?

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very helpful guide
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Psyx wrote:It's not 'The best defence is a good offence', it's


---The best offence is a good defence---




That's why people make so many Wizards >.>


To bad in that case the quote is bs.

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