As topic says i realy need a guide for thoose 2 kind of chars, i need mainly the "wich skills to use" and "wich based points" and "wich equipment" on both.
I needed a wizzard guide too but i found a very nice one from Pooch.
Ill apreciate all the help.
Ty alot to all.
[Request] Guide for Warrior (dual axe) Rogue (daggers)
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CaeKWaRioR
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hows it going,
basically, As you are starting i suggest get every skill in each tree, theones you need ofcourse, no need getting dual axes skills and s&s if you are only gonna use one.
now, first you will want to figure out what combo you want to use for warrior, 2h Sword (Big damage, lower defence), Sword and Shield aka S&S (lower damage, but takes a heap of damage) or dual axes (good damage and quick attack rate). I personnaly have rogue daggers and warrior 2 handed.
I find the 2handed very handy for killing mobs quickly with the big damage, and the added knock-down and knock-back (mainly knock-down though) helps alot to overcome the pot delay and the lower defence, as the mob is on the ground 30 percent of the time after you use that skill, and then you whale on it with 150% dmg from the other main skill you et arly(the knock back skill).
from the start to lvl 20, you will basically want all the skills, except for maybe scorn (funny though, very funny - only for pvp though), but i find 2handed better for lower lvls compared to daggers, as you can kill mobs very quickly and not take much damage, whereas as daggers you would take 2 hits from a mob, you may only take 1 or even less, if your knock down is succesful.
I just leveled to level 20 last night, and after gaping from 15 onwards to save some SP, i decided to go for daggers from there on as main. i had about 750 SP saved and could get all the dagger and poison and monster mask skills i needed in the rogue tree. I also lvled the warrior tree to 17 with the left overs. from there on i will leave it at 20 until 24, lvl it up, and leave it there until 30, when you get another whole new set of skills available.
from 20 onwards you really have to start pciking your skills right, and how far up to level each one once you have acquired them. I highly suggest you start gapping to give you more SP, because if you plan to have the main skills, you will find yourself well short of the required amount needed, even though it is Europe and an insane amount is not needed.
so its up to you, and i might add the fact of lvling the warrior mastery up to gain access to heavy armor does help too, many people see this as the only reason to go rogue/warrior, but you can be very versatile in a party too, if there is only 1 tank, you 2hand, and if there are 2 tanks already, and dd's are needed, then you turn on dagger desperate (lvl 20 skill, gives you 75%more dmg for 75% less defence), and hammer away with it.
If you are soloing though, and happen to come into contact with a giant which is your level or within 4, then i highly suggest you turn off this skill in order to survive, because you will find yourself losing a lot of health fast, and not dealing enough damage to kill it in time. otherwise, turn it on an you will utterly pwn any general or champion mobs with them only giving 1 hit (if you use a skill on it).
but good luck with it, as far as gear and weapons, just try and find some bargains, and if you find yourself using warrior more, get a nicer sword and always stay up to date with your lvl, and maybe the daggers every few lvls, or the otherway round, depoending how much you use each. there isnt much use for buying sos or +5 weaps at that lvl, coz you will find yourself doing fine with one a bit lower, and at the rate you level at the early stages, there will be only maybe 5 hours before you can get a better weapon withoiut the money. from 24 onwarsd you might want to start looking though, if you want to be teh uber leetest.
good luck, hope i helped
basically, As you are starting i suggest get every skill in each tree, theones you need ofcourse, no need getting dual axes skills and s&s if you are only gonna use one.
now, first you will want to figure out what combo you want to use for warrior, 2h Sword (Big damage, lower defence), Sword and Shield aka S&S (lower damage, but takes a heap of damage) or dual axes (good damage and quick attack rate). I personnaly have rogue daggers and warrior 2 handed.
I find the 2handed very handy for killing mobs quickly with the big damage, and the added knock-down and knock-back (mainly knock-down though) helps alot to overcome the pot delay and the lower defence, as the mob is on the ground 30 percent of the time after you use that skill, and then you whale on it with 150% dmg from the other main skill you et arly(the knock back skill).
from the start to lvl 20, you will basically want all the skills, except for maybe scorn (funny though, very funny - only for pvp though), but i find 2handed better for lower lvls compared to daggers, as you can kill mobs very quickly and not take much damage, whereas as daggers you would take 2 hits from a mob, you may only take 1 or even less, if your knock down is succesful.
I just leveled to level 20 last night, and after gaping from 15 onwards to save some SP, i decided to go for daggers from there on as main. i had about 750 SP saved and could get all the dagger and poison and monster mask skills i needed in the rogue tree. I also lvled the warrior tree to 17 with the left overs. from there on i will leave it at 20 until 24, lvl it up, and leave it there until 30, when you get another whole new set of skills available.
from 20 onwards you really have to start pciking your skills right, and how far up to level each one once you have acquired them. I highly suggest you start gapping to give you more SP, because if you plan to have the main skills, you will find yourself well short of the required amount needed, even though it is Europe and an insane amount is not needed.
so its up to you, and i might add the fact of lvling the warrior mastery up to gain access to heavy armor does help too, many people see this as the only reason to go rogue/warrior, but you can be very versatile in a party too, if there is only 1 tank, you 2hand, and if there are 2 tanks already, and dd's are needed, then you turn on dagger desperate (lvl 20 skill, gives you 75%more dmg for 75% less defence), and hammer away with it.
If you are soloing though, and happen to come into contact with a giant which is your level or within 4, then i highly suggest you turn off this skill in order to survive, because you will find yourself losing a lot of health fast, and not dealing enough damage to kill it in time. otherwise, turn it on an you will utterly pwn any general or champion mobs with them only giving 1 hit (if you use a skill on it).
but good luck with it, as far as gear and weapons, just try and find some bargains, and if you find yourself using warrior more, get a nicer sword and always stay up to date with your lvl, and maybe the daggers every few lvls, or the otherway round, depoending how much you use each. there isnt much use for buying sos or +5 weaps at that lvl, coz you will find yourself doing fine with one a bit lower, and at the rate you level at the early stages, there will be only maybe 5 hours before you can get a better weapon withoiut the money. from 24 onwarsd you might want to start looking though, if you want to be teh uber leetest.
good luck, hope i helped
Hi, first of all , thank you for answering,
After reading all the text i think ur talking about 1 char with both masterys in it right?
Im talking about 2 chars , 1 warrior (axes) and 1 rogue(daggers) , and i need to know wich skills for each of them and wich kind of equip to use on each one.
Or i just confused all of what u said?
After reading all the text i think ur talking about 1 char with both masterys in it right?
Im talking about 2 chars , 1 warrior (axes) and 1 rogue(daggers) , and i need to know wich skills for each of them and wich kind of equip to use on each one.
Or i just confused all of what u said?
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CaeKWaRioR
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oh ok, sorry, didnt realise.
well you will want to get most of them. because you will obviously only be filling one mastery tree, you will not need to gap much. I suggest you maybe use a 2 gap in order to make sure you can get all the skills you want at the major lvls, like 20 and 30 etc where a whole heap become available at once. otherwise if you dont want to have a solid gap the whole way, lvl it up to a 0 gap when there are soe good skills you want, and then leave it at that lvl until another good lvl comes up. rg. 16-20, 20-24, 24-30 etc.
get pretty much all the skills for your warrior, if you want to save some SP(not much point), then you may consider leaving out the skills at the top 2 rows, which are really for partying, but if you do leave these out, parties may not want you in there, if they are serious, as these skills can be very handy for keeping the clerics/warlocks etc without mobs on them.
daggers, do the same lvl gapping, i am using that for both. the only skill you really want to leave out is scorn, which is basically only needed to annoy other ppl in pvp, which can be hilarious, it makes them target you only for three seconds after using it. much fun when two high lvls are pvping, and one goes up for a nuke, and you use it on him, his nuke gets cancelled, and he gets pwnd because he cant attack the other guy. very funny sometimes.
other than that, unless you arent interested in making monster masks, pretty much max it out.
well you will want to get most of them. because you will obviously only be filling one mastery tree, you will not need to gap much. I suggest you maybe use a 2 gap in order to make sure you can get all the skills you want at the major lvls, like 20 and 30 etc where a whole heap become available at once. otherwise if you dont want to have a solid gap the whole way, lvl it up to a 0 gap when there are soe good skills you want, and then leave it at that lvl until another good lvl comes up. rg. 16-20, 20-24, 24-30 etc.
get pretty much all the skills for your warrior, if you want to save some SP(not much point), then you may consider leaving out the skills at the top 2 rows, which are really for partying, but if you do leave these out, parties may not want you in there, if they are serious, as these skills can be very handy for keeping the clerics/warlocks etc without mobs on them.
daggers, do the same lvl gapping, i am using that for both. the only skill you really want to leave out is scorn, which is basically only needed to annoy other ppl in pvp, which can be hilarious, it makes them target you only for three seconds after using it. much fun when two high lvls are pvping, and one goes up for a nuke, and you use it on him, his nuke gets cancelled, and he gets pwnd because he cant attack the other guy. very funny sometimes.
other than that, unless you arent interested in making monster masks, pretty much max it out.
No problem 
Well thank you for the tips, im still a bit confused on wich skills to take while im lvling theese two chars, they are both lvl 10 atm, still using auto atack
, ill hope someone come here to talk about the specifics skills to use.
And im still in doubt about heavy armor ou light armor for warrior and light armor or heavy for dagger
Well thank you for the tips, im still a bit confused on wich skills to take while im lvling theese two chars, they are both lvl 10 atm, still using auto atack
, ill hope someone come here to talk about the specifics skills to use.
And im still in doubt about heavy armor ou light armor for warrior and light armor or heavy for dagger
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CaeKWaRioR
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the way euro works is the armour only works with certain classes, and has a lvl requirement for that class to be used. for example a chest piece of heavy armour will have required: warrior mastery lvl10, thus you need to have your warrior mastery skill tree to be leveled to 10 in order to be able to wear it, no matter if your character is lvl10 or 100.
aso, warriors can only wear heavy armour, and rogues light armour, so unless you want to put SP into eachothers skill trees to get the other armour, you are stuck with it like that, which there is nothign wrong with anyway.
aso, warriors can only wear heavy armour, and rogues light armour, so unless you want to put SP into eachothers skill trees to get the other armour, you are stuck with it like that, which there is nothign wrong with anyway.