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Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:04 pm
by Strwarrior
What the title says, if you donr know what is it, its the skill where u reduce ur defence for dmg.

And for sure, for a balder.

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:24 pm
by TheDrop
I dont have a blader but i'd say yeah, since (im pretty sure) the defence % lost from the shield is only phy defense, very useful against wizzies/nukers, and against other builds when you use it along with snow shield

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:14 pm
by apan
Strwarrior wrote:What the title says, if you donr know what is it, its the skill where u reduce ur defence for dmg.

And for sure, for a balder.

Yes. I just got my blader to lvl 80 today (on iSRO) and I've maxed it out so far. But I think I'm going to leave it at 80. IMO it only gets worse after 80.

So if I were you, get it to 80 and then leave it :)

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:25 pm
by Strwarrior
Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:27 am
by apan
Strwarrior wrote:Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

Well because I think the ratio between physical defense removed and physical attack gained get worse after lvl 80.

And at lvl 120 when you get the last one, it removes 100% of your shield for 160 physical attack. 160 physical attack at 120 just isn't that much...

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:17 am
by Strwarrior
apan wrote:
Strwarrior wrote:Why would i leave it at 80?, it costs 54k sp (the whole tree).
Also im not only thinkng about pvp, ifs about grinding i think it would help, and in pvp, at least when u get ur debuffs ready on some1, use it, kd and wish for a smexy crit :).

Well because I think the ratio between physical defense removed and physical attack gained get worse after lvl 80.

And at lvl 120 when you get the last one, it removes 100% of your shield for 160 physical attack. 160 physical attack at 120 just isn't that much...

True, but at 100 it removes ~80%, and gives 155~, and as unbeatabledevil stated, it still works vs some builds xd,
Im still actually thinking to make my farmer a blader or a hyb int spear

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:07 pm
by fckerr
Blader would be much more useful in fortress war.

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:25 pm
by apan
fckerr wrote:Blader would be much more useful in fortress war.

What do you mean? ^^ You kinda posted half of a sentence :P Unless you mean should, instead of would? =)

Re: Is the bicheon force tree worth getting?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:34 pm
by Strwarrior
ĪDK, both spear and blader cost almost the same amount of sp, ill see when i finish farming.