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Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:04 am
by Tasdik
Okay so we all know that certain builds pwn more then others. For instance, on isro, war/cleric = op SOB.
I'm generally pretty good with know which builds work the best. But with this whole different style of, non-draining snow shield I'm a bit confused. So, I ask you people, which builds are pretty decent in zszc? I know that all, reasonable, builds can be good if played right. But I'd still like to know which one's YOU guys think are the best.
I hear there's a lot of bowers and nukers. Are they any good, if so, which kind? What about glaviers or bladers?
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:38 am
by ShiningBow
You can never go wrong with pure str glaive..
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:48 am
by Memories
Everything is good >_>
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:56 am
by Deadfear
Bower.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:21 am
by Amarisa
hybrid blade glavie.....nuff said
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:37 am
by Panu
Amarisa wrote:hybrid blade glavie.....nuff said
Fixed.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:12 am
by Ichimaru420
Seen a few int archers they seem 2 do ok in really good gear.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:20 am
by Grounded
Ichimaru420 wrote:Seen a few int archers they seem 2 ok in really good gear.
Just for uniques
On pvp they are 1-2 hits.. imho
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:37 am
by XMoshe
How does the snowshield work then? It doesn't take any mp and just absorbs 20-30-40 what ever % of the dmg? Or it just doesn't do anything at all.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:46 am
by Ichimaru420
GaRiTaX wrote:Ichimaru420 wrote:Seen a few int archers they seem 2 ok in really good gear.
Just for uniques
On pvp they are 1-2 hits.. imho
Ya your right, the only half decent one I've seen is Malice he beat Apo a few times but Apo did kill him as well.
XMoshe wrote:How does the snowshield work then? It doesn't take any mp and just absorbs 20-30-40 what ever % of the dmg? Or it just doesn't do anything at all.
It don't drain away your mana like on isro
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:28 am
by Tasdik
Amarisa wrote:hybrid blade glavie.....nuff said
Haha, you and your hybrids.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:13 am
by XMoshe
Ichimaru420 wrote:XMoshe wrote:How does the snowshield work then? It doesn't take any mp and just absorbs 20-30-40 what ever % of the dmg? Or it just doesn't do anything at all.
It don't drain away your mana like on isro
So it acts like accessory? If that's the case Pure Int Fire/Ice Spear will rape hard.
The biggest problem I had on my Pure Int spear on isro was the fact I ran out of mp even with 45% snow only. (Fire nukes take 10k+ mp to cast+ a 4k imbue) but if you don't loose mp cuz of your snow you can spam nukes like there's no tomorrow.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:32 pm
by mick3201
Im an int bower. i dont rly mind if im not the best at pvp, i just want to get to cap as fast as possible ^^ if I do reroll, ill prolly make a glavier or bower so I can be good at pvp
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:56 pm
by Bananaman
Tasdik wrote:Okay so we all know that certain builds pwn more then others. For instance, on isro, war/cleric = op SOB.
I'm generally pretty good with know which builds work the best. But with this whole different style of, non-draining snow shield I'm a bit confused. So, I ask you people, which builds are pretty decent in zszc? I know that all, reasonable, builds can be good if played right. But I'd still like to know which one's YOU guys think are the best.
I hear there's a lot of bowers and nukers. Are they any good, if so, which kind? What about glaviers or bladers?
The Bot build is the most Dominant. . .
so dominant that It makes me not want to play for more than 30 minutes when giving in to the Urge to glaivie some monsters to the face
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:27 pm
by Amarisa
Panu wrote:Amarisa wrote:hybrid blade glavie.....nuff said
Fixed.
don't be hatin
Tasdik wrote:Amarisa wrote:hybrid blade glavie.....nuff said
Haha, you and your hybrids.
damn straight
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:07 pm
by Bananaman
Amarisa wrote:don't be hatin
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:02 pm
by Rawr~
XMoshe wrote:Ichimaru420 wrote:XMoshe wrote:How does the snowshield work then? It doesn't take any mp and just absorbs 20-30-40 what ever % of the dmg? Or it just doesn't do anything at all.
It don't drain away your mana like on isro
So it acts like accessory? If that's the case Pure Int Fire/Ice Spear will rape hard.
Well it's more of the opposite.
Well for an example, here's what I did in ECSRO...
Pure INT nuker uses snow, I use fan and then tank him for as long as I can then I use snow when my HP drops down below half, doing this allows your snow to stay up 30~60+ more seconds than his does, unless he spams icewalls he will die.
I used this technique in ECSRO on a 90 glaiver in prot, I was able to kill every nuker I fought with 90 weapons with a 22~10 gap.
STR is very overpowered without functional snow.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:16 pm
by XMoshe
Hmm well you're right, now I understand why zszc has an int requirement on the snowshield. Otherwise str chars could use 50%+ snow lol.
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:52 am
by fckerr
I think what cpinney is doing will be pwning at lvl 100...Probably the best would be 300int on lvl 100 ( gear included) for 45% snow and rest at str. He will do more dmg than pure strs and will have 45% snow which will compensate for lower hp. After snow runs out he can tank more than pure ints since he'll have 30k+ hp (heuskal passive included)...
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:59 am
by cpinney
fckerr wrote:I think what cpinney is doing will be pwning at lvl 100...Probably the best would be 300int on lvl 100 ( gear included) for 45% snow and rest at str. He will do more dmg than pure strs and will have 45% snow which will compensate for lower hp. After snow runs out he can tank more than pure ints since he'll have 30k+ hp (heuskal passive included)...
yes mens
altho the grindin atm is slow as balls
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:13 am
by Amarisa
cpinney wrote:fckerr wrote:I think what cpinney is doing will be pwning at lvl 100...Probably the best would be 300int on lvl 100 ( gear included) for 45% snow and rest at str. He will do more dmg than pure strs and will have 45% snow which will compensate for lower hp. After snow runs out he can tank more than pure ints since he'll have 30k+ hp (heuskal passive included)...
yes mens
altho the grindin atm is slow as balls
because you noop
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:09 pm
by cpinney
Amarisa wrote:cpinney wrote:fckerr wrote:I think what cpinney is doing will be pwning at lvl 100...Probably the best would be 300int on lvl 100 ( gear included) for 45% snow and rest at str. He will do more dmg than pure strs and will have 45% snow which will compensate for lower hp. After snow runs out he can tank more than pure ints since he'll have 30k+ hp (heuskal passive included)...
yes mens
altho the grindin atm is slow as balls
because you noop
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:12 pm
by iztupido
cpinney wrote:Amarisa wrote:cpinney wrote:yes mens
altho the grindin atm is slow as balls
because you noop
it no work noop
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:19 pm
by cpinney
well you are broken then cause i can see it fine
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:40 pm
by iztupido
cpinney wrote:well you are broken then cause i can see it fine
hax!
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:04 pm
by Alkali
XMoshe wrote:Hmm well you're right, now I understand why zszc has an int requirement on the snowshield. Otherwise str chars could use 50%+ snow lol.
well.. at swsro you can see 120 lvl str chars pvping with a 63% snow shield. BAM 6k crit from strongbow! yay thats fun to watch >_>
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:06 pm
by VskLancer
I chose full int spear light/ice, because i wasn't thinking on pvp endurance and i'm really enjoying the pve even with 9 gap. Soon probably i'll make a full str blade fire/cold alt, that will pwn in pvp
also feels good man to always get the giant drops
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:37 pm
by Tasdik
Well since there's apparently so many bows, and I hate being an archer, *skills are uber boring*, what build would be best to pwn archers?
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:58 am
by Amarisa
hybrid blade glavie
i win don't lie
Re: Dominant build? *zscz*
Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:40 am
by XMoshe
VskLancer wrote:I chose full int spear light/ice, because i wasn't thinking on pvp endurance and i'm really enjoying the pve even with 9 gap. Soon probably i'll make a full str blade fire/cold alt, that will pwn in pvp
also feels good man to always get the giant drops
No stats in ZSZC so bladers suck.