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some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:12 pm
by Apy
Ecsro is on his way to the grave yard, since we discovered something really interesting


http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=52613


Here guys you can see how the site and the owner of it(site in which you payed for silk/sp..bla bla.) got sued...sadly...date reason are presented.

I don't know for sure, but check this out, probably it's true/probably not

Quitting ECSRO
Dear friends, dear users,

I know that most of you have never heard of me and never will.
I want to tell you a story.
When I joined ECSRO in august 2009 I was optimistic and more than enthusiastic regarding the situation and quality of the servers.
At first most things seemed well managed and running smoothly.
But after several arguments with the GMs and Assistants I got to know about the tensions that prevailed in the team for a long time.
Many former team members had quarrels with Eike (P-Master) and regularly expressed their discontent with his actions – either with demonstrations of extraordinary scale or with Unique-events that killed the server on purpose.
Fact was – P-Master had to go.
But Ocean, the renowned owner of the servers, blinded by his naïve distrust, never listened.
He trusted Eike and this was one of his many mistakes.
Eike did far more than just raking in money behind Oceans back.
Sometime around Christmas he visited Ocean in China.
Ocean, informed of Eike’s intrigues and scheming by that time, did not waver to withdraw Eike from the ECSRO-Project and end their friendship.
At that time a great turmoil went through ECSRO.
New GMs, old GMs, nobody really knew who was part of the team anymore and whether the new places would be reoccupied.
And this is where I come into play.
Since I used to have much contact with ocean and had friendly affiliations with the team members, I was chosen to become an Assistant or Trial-Assistant to be exact.
My wholehearted whish was to re-establish order in the team and to help and support the users.
My intentions are not as honourable as they seem here.
I just wanted to play peacefully on this private server, together with my friends and everyone else.
They should have gotten their answers, their items.
But alas, I wasn’t able to fulfil all this.
I was simply…too late.
ECSRO was already damned when I began my struggle.
All that is left for me is to simply hope that I was a good friend/assistant to all those that know me.
I will hereby withdraw from my appointment as an Assistant.

My reason…is here

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=52613


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Liebe Freunde, liebe User,

ich weis das die Meisten von euch noch nie von mir gehört haben und es auch niemals mehr werden.
Ich möchte euch eine Geschichte erzählen.
Als ich im August 2009 mit ECSRO begann war ich sehr optimistisch und mehr als enthusiastisch was die damalige Situation und die Qualität der Server betraf.
Auf den ersten Blick hin schien das Meiste gut gemanaged und reibungslos am laufen zu sein.
Nach einigen Streitgesprächen mit den damaligen GM's und Assistant's erfuhr ich dass schon seit langer Zeit eine angespannte Stimmung im Team herrschte.
Viele der damaligen Teammitglieder lagen im Streit mit Eike (P-Master) und brachten ihren Unmut über ihn und seine Handlungsweisen oft zum Ausdruck.
Zum einen mit Demonstrationen interessanter Größenordnungen, zum anderen mit Unique-Events welche absichtlich den server lahmlegten.
Fest stand, P-Master musste weg.
Ocean, der wohlbekannte Besitzer des Servers jedoch, blind und misstrauisch wie er war hörte niemals zu.
Er vertraute Eike und dies war unteranderem sein Fehler.
Eike hat hinter Oceans Rücken mehr getan als nur Geld in die eigene Tasche zu wirtschaften.
Irgendwann, so um Weihnachten rum besuchte Eike seinen Freund Ocean in China.
Ocean, der mittlerweile von Eikes Machenschaften unterrichtet war zögerte nicht ihn vom Projekt ECSRO abzuziehen, die Freundschaft zu kündigen.
Zu dieser Zeit fand ein großer Umbruch in ECSRO statt.
Neue GM's, alte GM's, man wusste kaum mehr wer nun zum Team gehörte, ob die "Alten" nun zurückkehren würden oder ihre Plätze neu besetzt werden.
Und da komme ich ins Spiel.
Da ich mit Ocean viel Kontakt hatte und auch zum Team freundschaftliche Kontakte pflegte wurde ich auserkoren ein Assistant bzw. Trial-Assistant zu werden.
Mein Wunsch war es wieder Ordnung in das Team zu bringen, die User zu supporten und ihnen zu helfen.
Meine Absichten sind nicht so edel wie sie hier zu lesen sind.
Ich wollte nur in Frieden auf diesem Privatserver spielen, mit meinen Freunden und all den anderen.
Sie sollten ihre Antworten bekommen, ihre Items.
Aber leider, leider war ich nicht in der Lage all dies zu erfüllen.
Ich war...zu spät.
ECSRO war schon im Verfall begriffen als ich anfing dagegen anzukämpfen.
Ich kann nur hoffen das ich denjenigen die mich kennen ein guter assistant/Freund gewesen bin.
Ich werde mich aus meinem Amt zurückziehen.

Hier...seht ihr meinen Grund

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=52613

Update guys

Full case post by an iNet lawyer:


JOYMAX CO., LTD. v. GRZEGORZ GRYCUK, ET AL.
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA (SANTA ANA)
8:09-CV-01432
FILED: 12/08/2009

The misappropriation of trade secrets, in one form or another, is often the motivation for unauthorized access, hacking, or theft in the business environment. This is nothing new. Stealing business plans and trade secrets of US companies has been a standard business practice for summer clerks and interns from other countries. This case is a reminder that protecting your trade secrets as a business is a critical function and contracts with employees and contractors can go a long way in establishing legal protections against misappropriation.

Joymax is a company existing under the laws of South Korea primarily involved with the development of computer games. The Defendant, and others associated with him, appear to be residents of the country of Poland. Plaintiff alleges that the Defendants stole their source code and launched a duplicate online game website. Joymax also alleges that it has invested over $10 million in the development, marketing, and distribution of its online game and that the source code is a trade secret.

Plaintiff has sued for copyright infringement, false advertising, trademark infringement, and theft of trade secrets. The Plaintiff has requested preliminary and permanent injunctive relief, damages according to proof, an order for the reassignment of Defendant’s domain name to Plaintiff, costs of suit, and attorneys’ fees. Dozier Internet Law Cross-Reference Number 1394.
Posted by Internet Lawyer: Dozier Internet Law at 9:43 AM 0 comments

source: http://dozier-internetlawpc.blogspot.com/

Interesting...

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:35 pm
by butcha
Well, whether this is a lie, or all the news on sro-db site are lies.... or both of them are lies :banghead:
I don't know what to believe anymore, in fact, I don't believe anything considered ecsro anymore.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:44 pm
by Apy
well actually we can see the proof date and reason of the sue clamed by Joymax against that p..bla bla...,
Also the news are posted on a forum in which news are shared and as it's proved, it got something in common with ecsro.net

I gues there goes down Ecsro...bleah...

btw I loled at the foling sue of 350$ rofl, what is 350$ compared to the ammount of money Ocean won

I'll post more news about this "shit" that it's going on...

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:10 pm
by hapnz
Suing goldsold.pl website owner eh? it's not the same guy as the ecsro server owner, right?

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:18 pm
by Disconn3cted
Apy wrote:well actually we can see the proof date and reason of the sue clamed by Joymax against that p..bla bla...,
Also the news are posted on a forum in which news are shared and as it's proved, it got something in common with ecsro.net

I gues there goes down Ecsro...bleah...

btw I loled at the foling sue of 350$ rofl, what is 350$ compared to the ammount of money Ocean won

I'll post more news about this "shit" that it's going on...


$350 is the amount of money Joymax had to pay to initiate the case. I'm not sure what you mean when you say it is nothing compared to the amount of money Ocean won. :?

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by Apy
just the filing suit, but someone has to cover that sum, also will have to cover the infractions too..think that in the end Oceans profit...goes....no where

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:36 pm
by Swindler
hapnz wrote:Suing goldsold.pl website owner eh? it's not the same guy as the ecsro server owner, right?

no but goldsold is also a goldselling website to iSRO, may be the reason.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:55 am
by randykiyoshi
Interesting. Well, ecSRO was beginning to take too long to level @ 94, maybe this is a good thing. It was fun while it lasted, apart from the constant downtimes and lagginess.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:57 am
by TheDrop
wait, so did JM sue eCsro or goldsold.pl?

either ways, lulz

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:50 am
by Apy
UnbeatableDevil wrote:wait, so did JM sue eCsro or goldsold.pl?

either ways, lulz


goldsold, well it's owner, with which EcSro gets the $$$.

and I agree, epic lawlz

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:46 am
by Crowley
Time for me to chargeback.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:49 am
by chuwinggum
LMFAO! 4 of my friends including me were planning to buy 1m sp..

people begun to love ecsro even with lags since it has 10x rate
and easy access on everything..

cant you make your own private server Apy?

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:17 am
by Apy
chuwinggum wrote:LMFAO! 4 of my friends including me were planning to buy 1m sp..

people begun to love ecsro even with lags since it has 10x rate
and easy access on everything..

cant you make your own private server Apy?



LMAO! :D

I consider that eSro when it will be relased, gonna be the best private server ever.
enuff sayed !

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:50 am
by Alkali
i knew something like this are going to happen, well fuck ecsro if it wont ever come back then.

EDIT: i feel sorry for the guys who bought silk/sp n stuff lol

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:50 pm
by butcha
Alkali wrote:i knew something like this are going to happen, well fuck ecsro if it wont ever come back then.

EDIT: i feel sorry for the guys who bought silk/sp n stuff lol

2mil sp and 1k silk.... 2*30$+40$=100$ :palm: :banghead:

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:44 pm
by Crowley
butcha wrote:
Alkali wrote:i knew something like this are going to happen, well fuck ecsro if it wont ever come back then.

EDIT: i feel sorry for the guys who bought silk/sp n stuff lol

2mil sp and 1k silk.... 2*30$+40$=100$ :palm: :banghead:


I spent 275 USD, which is around 400 NZD. :banghead:

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:59 pm
by Miguez
Tsume wrote:
butcha wrote:
Alkali wrote:i knew something like this are going to happen, well fuck ecsro if it wont ever come back then.

EDIT: i feel sorry for the guys who bought silk/sp n stuff lol

2mil sp and 1k silk.... 2*30$+40$=100$ :palm: :banghead:


I spent 275 USD, which is around 400 NZD. :banghead:


:palm:

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:21 pm
by Swindler
Failfailfail, all of you who purchased silk,gold,sp w/e.

Like this wasnt expected from the very first beginning?

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:28 pm
by TheDrop
Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:


Apy wrote:
I consider that eSro when it will be relased, gonna be the best private server ever.
enuff sayed !

heh, wasn't esro supposed to be released like...1.5 years ago xD.
'Tis fake mens ;p

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:38 pm
by Amarisa
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:



idk about you but i enjoyed having 500k sp and getting a char to 82 unlike isro. also proving that dual wep builds are amazing.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:46 pm
by butcha
Amarisa wrote:
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:



idk about you but i enjoyed having 500k sp and getting a char to 82 unlike isro. also proving that dual wep builds are amazing.

I was just about to say something like this. It was cool to have D-Spirit maxed and not need to worry about what is the next skill I'm upping. I loved just pure leveling :sohappy:

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:18 pm
by Apy
NEWS

A few facts about the trial:

Charges from Joymax against ECSRO and Goldsold:

1) Infringement of copyright.
2) False advertising.
3) Infringement of trademark
4) Theft of trade secrets.

Total damage claimed by Joymax: $2,500,000

Source:

Case Complaint, Case No. SACV09-1432 RNB
JoyMAX Co., LTD vs. GREGORZ GRYCUK, ECSRO, ECSRO.NET, GOLD SOLD, GOLDSOLD.PL and DOES 1-10

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=52613


what the FvCK ?

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:47 pm
by TheDrop
Amarisa wrote:
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:



idk about you but i enjoyed having 500k sp and getting a char to 82 unlike isro. also proving that dual wep builds are amazing.

i meant people who'd just bought the silk/gold, right before ecsro went down ;p

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:54 pm
by Amarisa
UnbeatableDevil wrote:
Amarisa wrote:
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:



idk about you but i enjoyed having 500k sp and getting a char to 82 unlike isro. also proving that dual wep builds are amazing.

i meant people who'd just bought the silk/gold, right before ecsro went down ;p


kinda miss lead me

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:03 am
by Grounded
R.I.P. Ecsro =(
was good while it lasted!

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 am
by Apy
GaRiTaX wrote:R.I.P. Ecsro =(
was good while it lasted!


Agree !

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:47 am
by ltsune
Apy wrote:NEWS

A few facts about the trial:

Charges from Joymax against ECSRO and Goldsold:

1) Infringement of copyright.
2) False advertising.
3) Infringement of trademark
4) Theft of trade secrets.

Total damage claimed by Joymax: $2,500,000

Source:

Case Complaint, Case No. SACV09-1432 RNB
JoyMAX Co., LTD vs. GREGORZ GRYCUK, ECSRO, ECSRO.NET, GOLD SOLD, GOLDSOLD.PL and DOES 1-10

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuit.asp?id=52613


what the FvCK ?


$2,500,000 .... omg.

Ocean will never be able to pay that much back ;o He is like owned.....

I am just glad I am not him :P

Yeah.... I wasted quite some money on ecsro but well... it was kinda fun while it lasted.

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:40 am
by atlanser
Looks like its over

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:08 am
by chuwinggum
OMG!!! i cant believe the fun is gone :nowant:
the thieving.. :banghead: pwning turks/orNot who spam kill low lvls.. :banghead:
and most of all "earning money" (helping real friends) :D

ok i am awake xD LMFAO! ROFL!

too bad :dope: rs..
the gold you got and the items you :dope: d cant be used =))

UnbeatableDevil wrote:
Amarisa wrote:
UnbeatableDevil wrote:Lol @ people who wasted money on this server (or sro in general) :palm:



idk about you but i enjoyed having 500k sp and getting a char to 82 unlike isro. also proving that dual wep builds are amazing.

i meant people who'd just bought the silk/gold, right before ecsro went down ;p


they can do chargeback. 8)

Re: some news about ecSro, seems like....

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:30 am
by butcha
lol 2.5 freaking millions. Joymax really has some mental problems.