Venture - 85 Cap\Balanced Classes\Skill Extensions - 17April

[Ganja]

IGN is Aesop add me if you see me

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

They advertised that most of silk items except cosmetic can be earned just by playing the game. It's a lie, this "most of silk items" means globals and elephants. Health of elephants just got nerfed to the point that they are useless and its better to use npc transports. So the only silk item you can get for free are globals. If you won't donate you wont get avatar, pet, reverses or proper silk transports because they can't be traded. There goes idea of non p2w server.

[ltsune]

The idea of a non pay2win server, I suppose, is that you cannot buy anything from the item mall that will give you a nearly promised chance of winning against players who does not have any silk.
This was dealt with by for example removing both the premiums and the devil spirits completely.

Furthermore, they ensured that people would not pay2win by making silk items untradeable. If they were tradeable, the people buying silk would be the richest players on the server, thus decreasing the amount of job activity and increasing the pay2win factor a lot!

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

The idea of a non pay2win server, I suppose, is that you cannot buy anything from the item mall that will give you a nearly promised chance of winning against players who does not have any silk.
This was dealt with by for example removing both the premiums and the devil spirits completely.

Furthermore, they ensured that people would not pay2win by making silk items untradeable. If they were tradeable, the people buying silk would be the richest players on the server, thus decreasing the amount of job activity and increasing the pay2win factor a lot!

Avatar chest 5% dmg, Avatar hat 5% dmg absorption. Even that right there is pay to win. Avatar 4% lucky, better chance of making items and better items determine who wins. Reverse returns and res scrolls are very much p2w, especially if 1 guy always uses them and other can't get them at all. You're trying to tell me that donators can't make large amounts of money by selling silk items. They are making large amounts of money by buying silks. Stand near grinding spot with pet on and go sleep. When you wake up you will have 50mil. Buy silk transport and make 5* and you'll make 30 mil per trade run. This also is pay2win and people buying silks ARE richest players on the server. Personally i think that any server with treadable silk items is less p2w than this one, because non donators can still get everything. It just takes more time.
Right now any kind of few star trade without buffalos is pointless. The change to elephants pretty much killed group guild trade runs. Now they have 30k hp and insta die. I reached 83 and i really struggle to see point in continuing because all that's left is making money. Can't grind for gold without grab pet and can't trade on low level npc transports.
Main reason why i started to play there was because they said that all silk items except cosmetic ones can be obtained by just playing the game. That was complete lie.

[IntWarrior]

so ive extracted the folder all fine, try to open client i keep getting Silkroad Online Launcher Has Stopped Working... any ideas??\

PS, id post it on the server site but for some reason it wont load atm

[Sephuku]

Yeah, server is down for now.
Maybe a patch and what not.

[marijnz0r]

The idea of a non pay2win server, I suppose, is that you cannot buy anything from the item mall that will give you a nearly promised chance of winning against players who does not have any silk.
This was dealt with by for example removing both the premiums and the devil spirits completely.

Furthermore, they ensured that people would not pay2win by making silk items untradeable. If they were tradeable, the people buying silk would be the richest players on the server, thus decreasing the amount of job activity and increasing the pay2win factor a lot!

Avatar chest 5% dmg, Avatar hat 5% dmg absorption. Even that right there is pay to win. Avatar 4% lucky, better chance of making items and better items determine who wins. Reverse returns and res scrolls are very much p2w, especially if 1 guy always uses them and other can't get them at all. You're trying to tell me that donators can't make large amounts of money by selling silk items. They are making large amounts of money by buying silks. Stand near grinding spot with pet on and go sleep. When you wake up you will have 50mil. Buy silk transport and make 5* and you'll make 30 mil per trade run. This also is pay2win and people buying silks ARE richest players on the server. Personally i think that any server with treadable silk items is less p2w than this one, because non donators can still get everything. It just takes more time.
Right now any kind of few star trade without buffalos is pointless. The change to elephants pretty much killed group guild trade runs. Now they have 30k hp and insta die. I reached 83 and i really struggle to see point in continuing because all that's left is making money. Can't grind for gold without grab pet and can't trade on low level npc transports.
Main reason why i started to play there was because they said that all silk items except cosmetic ones can be obtained by just playing the game. That was complete lie.

Less QQ please. This server is totally NOT pay2win, they removed the Lukcy% from the avatars already. The moderators are constantly tweaking the game to ensure it's a good experience for us.

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

The idea of a non pay2win server, I suppose, is that you cannot buy anything from the item mall that will give you a nearly promised chance of winning against players who does not have any silk.
This was dealt with by for example removing both the premiums and the devil spirits completely.

Furthermore, they ensured that people would not pay2win by making silk items untradeable. If they were tradeable, the people buying silk would be the richest players on the server, thus decreasing the amount of job activity and increasing the pay2win factor a lot!

Avatar chest 5% dmg, Avatar hat 5% dmg absorption. Even that right there is pay to win. Avatar 4% lucky, better chance of making items and better items determine who wins. Reverse returns and res scrolls are very much p2w, especially if 1 guy always uses them and other can't get them at all. You're trying to tell me that donators can't make large amounts of money by selling silk items. They are making large amounts of money by buying silks. Stand near grinding spot with pet on and go sleep. When you wake up you will have 50mil. Buy silk transport and make 5* and you'll make 30 mil per trade run. This also is pay2win and people buying silks ARE richest players on the server. Personally i think that any server with treadable silk items is less p2w than this one, because non donators can still get everything. It just takes more time.
Right now any kind of few star trade without buffalos is pointless. The change to elephants pretty much killed group guild trade runs. Now they have 30k hp and insta die. I reached 83 and i really struggle to see point in continuing because all that's left is making money. Can't grind for gold without grab pet and can't trade on low level npc transports.
Main reason why i started to play there was because they said that all silk items except cosmetic ones can be obtained by just playing the game. That was complete lie.

Less QQ please. This server is totally NOT pay2win, they removed the Lukcy% from the avatars already. The moderators are constantly tweaking the game to ensure it's a good experience for us.

Yep, they tweaked it alright. You're probably around 60-70. Just wait till you start trading at 80+ with fire bulls.

[marijnz0r]

Less QQ please. This server is totally NOT pay2win, they removed the Lukcy% from the avatars already. The moderators are constantly tweaking the game to ensure it's a good experience for us.

Yep, they tweaked it alright. You're probably around 60-70. Just wait till you start trading at 80+ with fire bulls.

Qynchou on elitepvpers:

"Please read the patch notes to be able to be up to date with the game.

Trading is not simply afk running while spamming potions on 5* anymore. If by 'completely destroyed' you mean 'trading actually requires effort now' then yes."

My level is 72 and I did a few 5* trade runs yesterday with an elephant and a PRO hunter (lvl 80 warrior), no troubles whatsoever.

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

Less QQ please. This server is totally NOT pay2win, they removed the Lukcy% from the avatars already. The moderators are constantly tweaking the game to ensure it's a good experience for us.

Yep, they tweaked it alright. You're probably around 60-70. Just wait till you start trading at 80+ with fire bulls.

Qynchou on elitepvpers:

"Please read the patch notes to be able to be up to date with the game.

Trading is not simply afk running while spamming potions on 5* anymore. If by 'completely destroyed' you mean 'trading actually requires effort now' then yes."

My level is 72 and I did a few 5* trade runs yesterday with an elephant and a PRO hunter (lvl 80 warrior), no troubles whatsoever.

It was pretty obvious that you're low level. Now wait a little and try doing 5* on 30k elephant when you're 83+ For now please don't talk about something you didn't experienced.

[marijnz0r]

Qynchou on elitepvpers:

"Please read the patch notes to be able to be up to date with the game.

Trading is not simply afk running while spamming potions on 5* anymore. If by 'completely destroyed' you mean 'trading actually requires effort now' then yes."

My level is 72 and I did a few 5* trade runs yesterday with an elephant and a PRO hunter (lvl 80 warrior), no troubles whatsoever.

It was pretty obvious that you're low level. Now wait a little and try doing 5* on 30k elephant when you're 83+ For now please don't talk about something you didn't experienced.

Please don't play the "low level" card. It's not like it makes a whole difference those few levels. Respond to the thing Qynchou said about "afk running while spamming potions".

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

Qynchou on elitepvpers:

"Please read the patch notes to be able to be up to date with the game.

Trading is not simply afk running while spamming potions on 5* anymore. If by 'completely destroyed' you mean 'trading actually requires effort now' then yes."

My level is 72 and I did a few 5* trade runs yesterday with an elephant and a PRO hunter (lvl 80 warrior), no troubles whatsoever.

It was pretty obvious that you're low level. Now wait a little and try doing 5* on 30k elephant when you're 83+ For now please don't talk about something you didn't experienced.

Please don't play the "low level" card. It's not like it makes a whole difference those few levels. Respond to the thing Qynchou said about "afk running while spamming potions".

I'm not playing any card. I simply said that you're talking about something you didn't experienced. You don't know what difference it makes because you never done it. "afk running while spamming potions" is still there, you just have to pay for proper silk transport.

[Deadfear]

I don't understand why LetMeBeLikeYou is complaining on this forum. Go bitch to the moderators on the real forum or message them. Crying here won't change anything, believe it or not.

[Tasdik]

Like it or not, silk buyers will always have some advantage. Why? Because if they didn't, there'd be no point in donating. And no donations = no server.

Considering that perms and devil spirits are the most op pay2win items, I'm pleased the gm's removed them.

And as for avatars, if you lose because someone is wearing an avatar and you aren't, then you just suck. Get better.

Less QQ moar pew pew.

[Tasdik]

Also, as far as trading goes, get a good cleric agro hunter, and your trans should never take any damage.

So many bad hunters out there. Makes me sad.

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

I don't understand why LetMeBeLikeYou is complaining on this forum. Go bitch to the moderators on the real forum or message them. Crying here won't change anything, believe it or not.

What i wanted to say is that it's not what they advertised it to be. I said it here because they advertised it here. For rest of the time i was replying to dumb posts, like this one you made. If you still don't understand it then you aren't suppose to, believe it or not.

@Tasdic

Yes i know how those servers work. Without donations they can't pay for server. But by locking down silk items trade, non donators can't ever get those clearly non cosmetic items. I never said that i lost with someone wearing avatar i just said that it gives advantage, you can't deny that.
If only cleric heals could prevent thief wizzards from 1-2 hitting lvl 50 transport with 30k hp.

[iztupido]

It was pretty obvious that you're low level. Now wait a little and try doing 5* on 30k elephant when you're 83+ For now please don't talk about something you didn't experienced.

Please don't play the "low level" card. It's not like it makes a whole difference those few levels. Respond to the thing Qynchou said about "afk running while spamming potions".

I'm not playing any card. I simply said that you're talking about something you didn't experienced. You don't know what difference it makes because you never done it. "afk running while spamming potions" is still there, you just have to pay for proper silk transport.

Silk transports have exactly the same movement speed as normal silk transports, like stated here http://forum.play-venture.com/index.php?topic=309.0, should maybe go and read the patch notes from time to time, you know might give you an insight on what changed and what didn't so you don't make bullshit comments like the one above.

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

Silk transports have exactly the same movement speed as normal silk transports, like stated here http://forum.play-venture.com/index.php?topic=309.0, should maybe go and read the patch notes from time to time, you know might give you an insight on what changed and what didn't so you don't make bullshit comments like the one above.

Actually i read it, still i appreciate your advice. You might want to follow it yourself tho. If you did that you would probably noticed that i was talking about hp not movement speed. That way you wouldn't make bullshit comments like the one above (sorry i just had to do it ).
I don't really care about hp, movement speed or colour of transports. I just pointed out that it makes trading for non donators really hard.
Thing that annoyed me the most was "Silks are not treadable, but don't worry. Most of silk items can be obtained by playing the game" I'm too lazy to search for it but this statement was used to advertise this server. I played having it in mind and got disappointed. Just like few other people after finding out that this "most" means globals.

[iztupido]

Silk transports have exactly the same movement speed as normal silk transports, like stated here http://forum.play-venture.com/index.php?topic=309.0, should maybe go and read the patch notes from time to time, you know might give you an insight on what changed and what didn't so you don't make bullshit comments like the one above.

Actually i read it, still i appreciate your advice. You might want to follow it yourself tho. If you did that you would probably noticed that i was talking about hp not movement speed. That way you wouldn't make bullshit comments like the one above (sorry i just had to do it ).
I don't really care about hp, movement speed or colour of transports. I just pointed out that it makes trading for non donators really hard.
Thing that annoyed me the most was "Silks are not treadable, but don't worry. Most of silk items can be obtained by playing the game" I'm too lazy to search for it but this statement was used to advertise this server. I played having it in mind and got disappointed. Just like few other people after finding out that this "most" means globals.

How will the silk transports give any advantage? They have the same movespeed, and the same HP now after the patch. The firebull has 70kish hp

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

Silk transports have exactly the same movement speed as normal silk transports, like stated here http://forum.play-venture.com/index.php?topic=309.0, should maybe go and read the patch notes from time to time, you know might give you an insight on what changed and what didn't so you don't make bullshit comments like the one above.

Actually i read it, still i appreciate your advice. You might want to follow it yourself tho. If you did that you would probably noticed that i was talking about hp not movement speed. That way you wouldn't make bullshit comments like the one above (sorry i just had to do it ).
I don't really care about hp, movement speed or colour of transports. I just pointed out that it makes trading for non donators really hard.
Thing that annoyed me the most was "Silks are not treadable, but don't worry. Most of silk items can be obtained by playing the game" I'm too lazy to search for it but this statement was used to advertise this server. I played having it in mind and got disappointed. Just like few other people after finding out that this "most" means globals.

How will the silk transports give any advantage? They have the same movespeed, and the same HP now after the patch. The firebull has 70kish hp

It have less hp. Also when i checked that update notes yesterday buffalo had original hp, i'm pretty sure it got cut down by half recently. Plus i really don't see point of elephants with 30k hp.

I would really want to see reply about this false avertising. Rest are things that they can change anytime they want.

[marijnz0r]

You seem so sad, cheer up. Want to join my guild?

[LetMeBeLikeYou]

You seem so sad, cheer up. Want to join my guild?

Nah i'm just bored. I have a guild, thx for invitation anyway ;]

[marijnz0r]

I wanna play now!

[IntWarrior]

wtf is going on with the server?? i cant load home page and when trying to load the client the launcher comes up but no start, exit button or info on the left???

[Fauntleroy]

wtf is going on with the server?? i cant load home page and when trying to load the client the launcher comes up but no start, exit button or info on the left???

They have problem with host.
This is link for their forum. (It works)

[marijnz0r]

wtf is going on with the server?? i cant load home page and when trying to load the client the launcher comes up but no start, exit button or info on the left???

They have problem with host.
This is link for their forum. (It works)

Thanks for pointing that out!

[jyushinshuu]

@marijnz0r

what's your guild name? ATM I'm in full turk guild, but they seem very nice to me, they are just misunderstood. But I'm planning to leave that guild cuz I don't understand a thing they are chatting.

P.S. guys, what's your IGN in Venture? mine is ZombieGirl

[Sephuku]

I need my fix god damnit.

[marijnz0r]

@marijnz0r

what's your guild name? ATM I'm in full turk guild, but they seem very nice to me, they are just misunderstood. But I'm planning to leave that guild cuz I don't understand a thing they are chatting.

P.S. guys, what's your IGN in Venture? mine is ZombieGirl

Guild name: TheEmpire
We're in the biggest union currently.
My IGN: Luna
Contact me when the server is up

[byourdi]

@marijnz0r

what's your guild name? ATM I'm in full turk guild, but they seem very nice to me, they are just misunderstood. But I'm planning to leave that guild cuz I don't understand a thing they are chatting.

P.S. guys, what's your IGN in Venture? mine is ZombieGirl

Guild name: TheEmpire
We're in the biggest union currently.
My IGN: Luna
Contact me when the server is up

OK Mann full cntoct u n joiner quilt? hhhhh serweler is ded