Information on Fembria and stuff..

[hapnz]

for me..
im searching a smooth playing system

well good luck with that.

[Sylar]

We'll see.

lets say u are lvl 6x or less
in ecsro... will u leave or stay.. for me i will leave

even if i was high lvl.. i will leave for the new skills
and for a normal player.. i will leave for the new system

for me..
im searching a smooth playing system

the new system sux, lol
it has the old triangular conflict system, 'jobbing system' for the naps
that shit with alias and waiting for 1 week, nothing more fun then doing one day a union trade and the next day you go thieving and the other day u gonna help the low lvls with their trades.
also, the euros will ruin the pvps imo, with their buffs they'll give to chinese and stuff, not fair anymore
but it's my opinion vs. yours ofcourse

[Strwarrior]

We'll see.

lets say u are lvl 6x or less
in ecsro... will u leave or stay.. for me i will leave

even if i was high lvl.. i will leave for the new skills
and for a normal player.. i will leave for the new system

for me..
im searching a smooth playing system

the new system sux, lol
it has the old triangular conflict system, 'jobbing system' for the naps
that shit with alias and waiting for 1 week, nothing more fun then doing one day a union trade and the next day you go thieving and the other day u gonna help the low lvls with their trades.
also, the euros will ruin the pvps imo, with their buffs they'll give to chinese and stuff, not fair anymore
but it's my opinion vs. yours ofcourse

i agree with the jobbing system.. it sks too much. also the 10 sec delay to equip pvp capes etc..
euro doesnt ruin it.. the players who play euro ruin it.
if u want to pvp some 1 just tell him lets pvp 1v1 and he should tell others not to buff him
im telling ya.... euro is good. who play it with (BEING OUTBUFFER) SKS

but yeah.. not thing have got no disadvantages
every thing in life got it

[Miguez]

x30 may actually get me to play Fembria since the real pain is 1-40/50 after that it gets interesting. Idk, I'm enjoying vSro IMO.

Also I'm to tired to keep arguing over Europe being good thing or not. I vote Yes, you vote No. End of story, we all like different things.

[hemagoku]

the new system sux, lol
it has the old triangular conflict system, 'jobbing system' for the naps
that shit with alias and waiting for 1 week, nothing more fun then doing one day a union trade and the next day you go thieving and the other day u gonna help the low lvls with their trades.
also, the euros will ruin the pvps imo, with their buffs they'll give to chinese and stuff, not fair anymore
but it's my opinion vs. yours ofcourse

i agree with the jobbing system.. it sks too much. also the 10 sec delay to equip pvp capes etc..
euro doesnt ruin it.. the players who play euro ruin it.
if u want to pvp some 1 just tell him lets pvp 1v1 and he should tell others not to buff him
im telling ya.... euro is good. who play it with (BEING OUTBUFFER) SKS

but yeah.. not thing have got no disadvantages
every thing in life got it

party pvp can be fun 2 u know ,i once killed a lvl70+ with the help of a warlock friend (i was about 60 and friend 61) debuffing him ,btw he didn't mind and he didn't even kill us for some time xD but it can be fun !!

[AutumnLeaves]

euro doesnt ruin it.. the players who play euro ruin it.

I've never seen it put so simple and true at once, nice job Str.

[Snoopy]

The people don't ruin it... they just take advantage of what they can. That being, they can res those who are in opposite job to them, or they just stand there with no job suit on and "black-res" everyone.

Now, you can't totally blame the player for taking advantage of this, that's when you have to fall back to Joymax and wonder why they made it like that.

[AutumnLeaves]

Thats like blaming the bar for someone driving drunk.... Its completely the players fault IMO. Though I do see your point of why did Joymax even include that option in the first place.

[Strwarrior]

The people don't ruin it... they just take advantage of what they can. That being, they can res those who are in opposite job to them, or they just stand there with no job suit on and "black-res" everyone.

Now, you can't totally blame the player for taking advantage of this, that's when you have to fall back to Joymax and wonder why they made it like that.

its not his advantages.. he is helping others in a 1 v 1 mode
and its not allowed i think. is it?
sure no because they call it 1v1

Why can euro buff and heal others?
cuz they are desined for pt play..
in pvp they shouldnt use the advantages they got......
so the player does ruin, the race doesnt.

euro doesnt ruin it.. the players who play euro ruin it.

I've never seen it put so simple and true at once, nice job Str.

Thanks

x30 may actually get me to play Fembria since the real pain is 1-40/50 after that it gets interesting. Idk, I'm enjoying vSro IMO.

Also I'm to tired to keep arguing over Europe being good thing or not. I vote Yes, you vote No. End of story, we all like different things.

its 1 week only.
but i will have no life in it
i will keep playing to lvl

[Snoopy]

The people don't ruin it... they just take advantage of what they can. That being, they can res those who are in opposite job to them, or they just stand there with no job suit on and "black-res" everyone.

Now, you can't totally blame the player for taking advantage of this, that's when you have to fall back to Joymax and wonder why they made it like that.

its not his advantages.. he is helping others in a 1 v 1 mode
and its not allowed i think. is it?
sure no because they call it 1v1

Why can euro buff and heal others?
cuz they are desined for pt play..
in pvp they shouldnt use the advantages they got......
so the player does ruin, the race doesnt.

You can tell a cleric to stop buffing you in a 1v1, or you can leave the area. If it's the person who you're pvping's buffer, then tell them you won't pvp them until they leave.

The point I was referring to was they outside ressing and buffing while Job waring or Guild waring.

My point is, it's a combination of both the lack of Joymax's testing, and partially the players. Though, it is not just the players fault because I know many people who don't do this, so you can't blame everyone.

I don't necessarily hate Euros, I just can't see people using them properly on Private Servers.

[Strwarrior]

The people don't ruin it... they just take advantage of what they can. That being, they can res those who are in opposite job to them, or they just stand there with no job suit on and "black-res" everyone.

Now, you can't totally blame the player for taking advantage of this, that's when you have to fall back to Joymax and wonder why they made it like that.

its not his advantages.. he is helping others in a 1 v 1 mode
and its not allowed i think. is it?
sure no because they call it 1v1

Why can euro buff and heal others?
cuz they are desined for pt play..
in pvp they shouldnt use the advantages they got......
so the player does ruin, the race doesnt.

You can tell a cleric to stop buffing you in a 1v1, or you can leave the area. If it's the person who you're pvping's buffer, then tell them you won't pvp them until they leave.

The point I was referring to was they outside ressing and buffing while Job waring or Guild waring.

My point is, it's a combination of both the lack of Joymax's testing, and partially the players. Though, it is not just the players fault because I know many people who don't do this, so you can't blame everyone.

I don't necessarily hate Euros, I just can't see people using them properly on Private Servers.

in jobbing its true.. they use them
i cant say no, but who does is the players, the race doesnt force u to do that , and if they didnt use it good in isro, who knows, maybe they will use it properly in private servers.

[Snoopy]

its not his advantages.. he is helping others in a 1 v 1 mode
and its not allowed i think. is it?
sure no because they call it 1v1

Why can euro buff and heal others?
cuz they are desined for pt play..
in pvp they shouldnt use the advantages they got......
so the player does ruin, the race doesnt.

You can tell a cleric to stop buffing you in a 1v1, or you can leave the area. If it's the person who you're pvping's buffer, then tell them you won't pvp them until they leave.

The point I was referring to was they outside ressing and buffing while Job waring or Guild waring.

My point is, it's a combination of both the lack of Joymax's testing, and partially the players. Though, it is not just the players fault because I know many people who don't do this, so you can't blame everyone.

I don't necessarily hate Euros, I just can't see people using them properly on Private Servers.

in jobbing its true.. they use them
i cant say no, but who does is the players, the race doesnt force u to do that , and if they didnt use it good in isro, who knows, maybe they will use it properly in private servers.

I know the race doesn't force you to do that, but it doesn't exactly stop you from doing it either. Which is why people put their hands out that open window and openly buff opponents etc.

[Strwarrior]

Dual Post... sry

[Strwarrior]

I know the race doesn't force you to do that, but it doesn't exactly stop you from doing it either. Which is why people put their hands out that open window and openly buff opponents etc.

chinese are not stopped from doing any thing
and euro shouldnt be stopped from doing any thing
its their powers, do u like some1 to make u use pots every 15 secs?
will u say yes? sure no,

so
every player got his freedom, some guys doesnt do that.

[Snoopy]

I know the race doesn't force you to do that, but it doesn't exactly stop you from doing it either. Which is why people put their hands out that open window and openly buff opponents etc.

chinese are not stopped from doing any thing
and euro shouldnt be stopped from doing any thing
its their powers, do u like some1 to make u use pots every 15 secs?
will u say yes? sure no,

so
every player got his freedom, some guys doesnt do that.

I give my reasons, then you decide to change it to the pot delay?

Most people are well aware of the pot delay when they decide to make a Euro. That's one of the repercussions of picking a European character.

You're right, Chinese aren't stopped from doing anything, nor are they support classes. There is a difference though, between being able to do something, and doing something considered wrong to the community. Just because someones able to download an invisible/stealth doesn't mean it's allowed. In this case, just because you can buff someone who's in the middle of a pvp, or res someone while you're not participating in triangular conflict, doesn't make it "right" as such; to openly buff or res them.

If Euros are so good, put on a bloody Thief/Hunter/Trader suit and res people!

[Eeece]

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uhm, i don't see it =D ?

On iSRO Fire Shield Emperor is maxed at lvl 1.......

Lol.? u sure?
wher u got that?

Uhh yeah I'm sure. You can check legionsofthedamned, BobTheVeg and nivlam. I don't think they'd all be lying[/quote]
sry dude ur brains may be out dated in csro i checked it up and its lvl 9 max ...

[Snoopy]

Warek is already working on removing Fire Shield - Emperor back to Lv1 only. He also told me that soon, there will be a pk2 with 90 skills (whether or not they're permanent or just pk2, we'll find out).

[Strwarrior]

I know the race doesn't force you to do that, but it doesn't exactly stop you from doing it either. Which is why people put their hands out that open window and openly buff opponents etc.

chinese are not stopped from doing any thing
and euro shouldnt be stopped from doing any thing
its their powers, do u like some1 to make u use pots every 15 secs?
will u say yes? sure no,

so
every player got his freedom, some guys doesnt do that.

I give my reasons, then you decide to change it to the pot delay?

Most people are well aware of the pot delay when they decide to make a Euro. That's one of the repercussions of picking a European character.

You're right, Chinese aren't stopped from doing anything, nor are they support classes. There is a difference though, between being able to do something, and doing something considered wrong to the community. Just because someones able to download an invisible/stealth doesn't mean it's allowed. In this case, just because you can buff someone who's in the middle of a pvp, or res someone while you're not participating in triangular conflict, doesn't make it "right" as such; to openly buff or res them.

If Euros are so good, put on a bloody Thief/Hunter/Trader suit and res people!

told u, every thing got disadvantages.

if esro opend i will play a chinese, not a euro.
but any way, for the system they should fix it to make it only able to buff when in same pt.
cuz u are talking about jobbing and i almost got 1% info about it, so i cant discuss it so true.

but i think the Bold part will be good

[hemagoku]

chinese are not stopped from doing any thing
and euro shouldnt be stopped from doing any thing
its their powers, do u like some1 to make u use pots every 15 secs?
will u say yes? sure no,

so
every player got his freedom, some guys doesnt do that.

I give my reasons, then you decide to change it to the pot delay?

Most people are well aware of the pot delay when they decide to make a Euro. That's one of the repercussions of picking a European character.

You're right, Chinese aren't stopped from doing anything, nor are they support classes. There is a difference though, between being able to do something, and doing something considered wrong to the community. Just because someones able to download an invisible/stealth doesn't mean it's allowed. In this case, just because you can buff someone who's in the middle of a pvp, or res someone while you're not participating in triangular conflict, doesn't make it "right" as such; to openly buff or res them.

If Euros are so good, put on a bloody Thief/Hunter/Trader suit and res people!

told u, every thing got disadvantages.

if esro opend i will play a chinese, not a euro.
but any way, for the system they should fix it to make it only able to buff when in same pt.
cuz u are talking about jobbing and i almost got 1% info about it, so i cant discuss it so true.

but i think the Bold part will be good[/quote]
totally agree ,i am euro on isro btw !! but i don't like them that much ,my wiz/cleric maybe able to 1 hit 5 lvls above me ,but a 15lvl below me can kill me ,and with buffs its unfair for the other guy against me ,i say best thing in euro is party mobs !!

[Miguez]

I think that discussion isn't leading you/us nowhere.

[hemagoku]

I think that discussion isn't leading you/us nowhere.

ya but it feels nice when arguing for ur opinion xD

[Strwarrior]

ya but it feels nice when arguing for ur opinion xD

[Miguez]

If you say so. ^_^