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I saw the Warlock/cleric guide and it's pretty good but Seem like too much farming for me since I don't like doing it, anyways I have 4 in warlock and 4 in cleric and my warlock im farming is lvl 13 , A friend of mine is a warlock/bard and he says he barely uses any potions.


So I just wana hear from oether people which build would they pick I almost never PvP cape cuz it's all capped or close to cap people taht do that, I like more to do quests and grind, but I also like to go on every CTF I can ^^

id say go bard
it helps u move faster, has noise, lets u recover mp and to get hp back ur a warlock anyways
also for ctf odds are ull have at least 1 cleric on your team for bless or ressing purposes
but u probably wont be able to kill giants easily since u cant recover health continuously or bless urself but with those debuffs it wont be impossible

mimiskis wrote:id say go bard
it helps u move faster, has noise, lets u recover mp and to get hp back ur a warlock anyways
also for ctf odds are ull have at least 1 cleric on your team for bless or ressing purposes
but u probably wont be able to kill giants easily since u cant recover health continuously or bless urself but with those debuffs it wont be impossible

you're also in Hera ^^

Thx for your input , Imma wait for more people

I think Cleric subclass is more practical than Bard for a few reasons.

-Bless Spell
-Self and Party Heals/Buffs
-Ability to revive fallen party members
-Easy weapon switching
-A powerful last resort nuke

Whereas, the upsides of bard are:

-Speed
-No aggro
-MP Healing
-Tambours
-Fast nukes

Speed can be replaced by drugs or other bard subs. Noise is not too important in my opinion, since you can actually tank quite well on groups of monsters of your level. MP Healing, although it is pretty cool to have, isn't a huge problem especially if you are a Robe user. Even Light Armor users don't run out of MP very often and Vigor grains can be a good solution. Tambours are pretty sweet but then again you probably aren't acting as a Warlock while you're dancing with your harp. The nukes are definitely the best part about being a bard sub, casting 1.5x faster than the Warlock nukes and doing more damage as well. Plus they have the Booming Chord, which is good for group action (or mass murdering noobs).
Cleric is pretty convenient for acting, well, as a cleric. You definitely have more tankability with Healing Cycle and Bless, and immunity with Holy Spell, too. In addition, you are not required to re-equip your shield every time you switch weapons, unlike a harp.

You stated that you don't pvp a lot: I would still pick Cleric over Bard, because a few bonuses of being a Bard can be replaced. If you don't want to farm, Bard is the least SP-intense sub out there, and you really don't need to use MP potions if you want to switch every 16 seconds to use Mana cycle. That's probably what you want to do since you are a low level who doesn't have support from high level friends/accounts. Otherwise, Cleric will keep you alive.

Advancechao wrote:I think Cleric subclass is more practical than Bard for a few reasons.

-Bless Spell
-Self and Party Heals/Buffs
-Ability to revive fallen party members
-Easy weapon switching
-A powerful last resort nuke

Whereas, the upsides of bard are:

-Speed
-No aggro
-MP Healing
-Tambours
-Fast nukes

Speed can be replaced by drugs or other bard subs. Noise is not too important in my opinion, since you can actually tank quite well on groups of monsters of your level. MP Healing, although it is pretty cool to have, isn't a huge problem especially if you are a Robe user. Even Light Armor users don't run out of MP very often and Vigor grains can be a good solution. Tambours are pretty sweet but then again you probably aren't acting as a Warlock while you're dancing with your harp. The nukes are definitely the best part about being a bard sub, casting 1.5x faster than the Warlock nukes and doing more damage as well. Plus they have the Booming Chord, which is good for group action (or mass murdering noobs).
Cleric is pretty convenient for acting, well, as a cleric. You definitely have more tankability with Healing Cycle and Bless, and immunity with Holy Spell, too. In addition, you are not required to re-equip your shield every time you switch weapons, unlike a harp.

You stated that you don't pvp a lot: I would still pick Cleric over Bard, because a few bonuses of being a Bard can be replaced. If you don't want to farm, Bard is the least SP-intense sub out there, and you really don't need to use MP potions if you want to switch every 16 seconds to use Mana cycle. That's probably what you want to do since you are a low level who doesn't have support from high level friends/accounts. Otherwise, Cleric will keep you alive.

well in teh guild I am I guess i can ask for Plvl at ongs to farm... and use my ticket to speed up the process...and you know what yeah, what a drag having to re equip m yshield again.I'm thinking Il go for sub cleric...I won't get all the nueks from cleric just offering and the necesary to survive shit. and bard I was just taking noise and mana cycle and march pobably a few otehrs too but not the nueks since I want to go warlock as my main. so yeah thanks alot for your help

side question: are warlocks any good at plvling people?

whiteclawz wrote:side question: are warlocks any good at plvling people?

any build thats good at lvling itself fast (nukers warlocks bowman wiz'z xbow rogues ect...) should be good plvlers although ive never seen a warlock plvl

Warlocks wouldnt be as fast as classes like wizards for plvling, but I guess they could be decent.

with all the AoE dot's i would assume so. Probably zerkmachine there too, if so then yes. one of the nukes is AoE too, but wizzes are still guna be faster.

Lv 85 hybrid warlock here and no I'm not much good at plvling, although I imagine a Lv 90 pure int could do it quite well. If you are going to plvl you should go to the hungry blood ongs since they can't be ksed as easily (double hp and exp of a party ong) and draw a huge group to you with vampire kiss or debuffs then cast a load of dots and run off to find more ongs. Also I find that I get zerk at a normal rate when I'm plvling.

so is bard still work for a warlock sub?

yes, bard works as a warlock sub.

Warlock/Bard = Squishy you be like paper because no Orbit or Recovery divsion or Holy spell which helps protect you from debuffs which could put you at a big advantage if you can defend against that.

Why bard if you can buy drugs? id say Warlock/Cleric Bard/Cleric best combo.

Im a level 90 FF Warlock/Cleric i have every single skill in both trees and got hundreds of k's of sp left and thhis build is amazing if i could not heal or had holy spell i die in seconds this class can plvl but not as fast as wizard because they have LT which doubles there damage and wiz has massive AoE.

Atleast you can cure yourself and even switch to cleric to do offering or absolute damage on people who are over buffed.

lock/cleric for sure

i think that warlock bard are good . the guy who said tha lock/bard can kill a gigant FAIL!!! my warlock bard get zerk each 40/60 segs and im bard soo i`ve the insane speed


for the one who ask about warlock pwlving i say YES warlock can plvl. i used to play on greece and i saw a bot named VIGILANT and she pwlvl for free and she is warlock cleric. soo 7 nub sitted in the mountain meanwhile she is killing mobs lv 85/87 party . . . xD it was pretty awsome