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[90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:16 am
by subzero
ok guys, im in a dilemma, i have a lvl 90 FF bow accnt. with 90pach, 90fire, 90light, 30ice.
and i was wondering if 90pach, 90force, 90fire would be a better build. i think the only main things i would lose in lightning are ghost walk and parry inc.
So my question is: Is parry and ghost walk worth giving up for lvl 90 force..(i think in force i will only have res and Vital spot skills tho.) so is it still worth it.
when i pvp lvl force bowman...i only hit them for like 7k with strong bow with weaken on me...and when they get division on me....they crit me 23k++ which leaves me with only 5k left then the can 1 more skill me..
so IYO is force bow or regular bow build better for pvp/fortress war/job war ect.
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:24 am
by Genocide
it would be a lot of delvling
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:47 am
by Blurred
I like it without force, when i played a friends 90 bow char... It was strong IMO.
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:43 am
by SolidSteel
Well, I have exact the same build and had exact the same dilemma!
In one vs one PVP, the force bow is definitly better (as you experienced earlier).
But for fortress/job wars I do believe a high mobility is required for bow-users. So a high level of ghost walk is a must. Your regular bow-build is better for that aspect of the game.
So if I were you, I wouldnt swap your light for force. It's gonna cost alot and your gonna be disadvantaged in jobbing/fortress.
Unless your a real 1vs1 pvp addict, then you might consider taking Force.
Atm i'm thinking of deleveling my light to 80 and bringing my cold up to 40. I believe this build is better then the 90/90/90/30. You only lose 5 Parry, 4% speed and 1m ghostwalk, and gain 7% more dam absorb with snowshield and +8 more phys defence. Increasing your tanking abilility considerable.
Hope I helped
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:52 am
by sawney
SolidSteel wrote:Well, I have exact the same build and had exact the same dilemma!
In one vs one PVP, the force bow is definitly better (as you experienced earlier).
But for fortress/job wars I do believe a high mobility is required for bow-users. So a high level of ghost walk is a must. Your regular bow-build is better for that aspect of the game.
So if I were you, I wouldnt swap your light for force. It's gonna cost alot and your gonna be disadvantaged in jobbing/fortress.
Unless your a real 1vs1 pvp addict, then you might considder taking Force.
Atm i'm thinking of deleveling my light to 80 and bringing my cold up to 40. I believe this build is better then the 90/90/90/30. You only lose 5 Parry, 4% speed and 1m ghostwalk, and gain 7% more dam absorb with snowshield and +8 more phys defence. Increasing your tanking abilility considerable.
Hope I helped
lol 8 more is nothing on lvl 90 xD
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:52 am
by hits98
more likely w/out force
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:03 am
by SolidSteel
sawney wrote:lol 8 more is nothing on lvl 90 xD
I know its not much, but its something. 5 parry isn't much either.
Was just saying that according to me:
+7% dam absorb and +8 phys def > +5 parry, +4% speed and +1m ghostwalk
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:54 am
by Annihilate
tbh i wouldnt up light till 90..
make bow fire lv 90
and ice light till 60,in future caps light will be useless for bow i think,cause at cap 100 they get 5+6arrow combo with KB,and bow doesnt need to run much since of big distance u can hit in pvp\pve...but if you wanna try force make it,looks like in hera are all going crazy for force skills...half of 90's have force rofl
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 3:47 pm
by MidnightMan
for most people force doesnt work too well, by the time you get the statuses you need on your opponent half of your life is gone from him hitting you and the they hit a purification pill and 1/2 of your work is cured, im a lvl 90 glaiver and there is a couple of lvl 90 ully farmed bowers on my server that use force and I win 4 out 5 matches
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:05 am
by PinayLoveNukes
MidnightMan wrote:for most people force doesnt work too well, by the time you get the statuses you need on your opponent half of your life is gone from him hitting you and the they hit a purification pill and 1/2 of your work is cured, im a lvl 90 glaiver and there is a couple of lvl 90 ully farmed bowers on my server that use force and I win 4 out 5 matches
Noob.... You pvping a weak bower who doesn't know his or her strategy.... Plus make video if you kill force bower. Cuz force bower are hard to kill unless you get buff from euro .
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:49 am
by BaronSengir
PinayLoveNukes wrote:MidnightMan wrote:for most people force doesnt work too well, by the time you get the statuses you need on your opponent half of your life is gone from him hitting you and the they hit a purification pill and 1/2 of your work is cured, im a lvl 90 glaiver and there is a couple of lvl 90 ully farmed bowers on my server that use force and I win 4 out 5 matches
Noob.... You pvping a weak bower who doesn't know his or her strategy.... Plus make video if you kill force bower. Cuz force bower are hard to kill unless you get buff from euro .
you have no right to call him noob since your the biggest noob here asking shitty ass questions and making countless topics
ps i kill bowers and i mean demolish them i guess it must be my gear and you do know you can pill of all the gay status a force bower gives you right and it has a 20 sec delay like the pills
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:15 am
by PinayLoveNukes
BaronSengir wrote:PinayLoveNukes wrote:MidnightMan wrote:for most people force doesnt work too well, by the time you get the statuses you need on your opponent half of your life is gone from him hitting you and the they hit a purification pill and 1/2 of your work is cured, im a lvl 90 glaiver and there is a couple of lvl 90 ully farmed bowers on my server that use force and I win 4 out 5 matches
Noob.... You pvping a weak bower who doesn't know his or her strategy.... Plus make video if you kill force bower. Cuz force bower are hard to kill unless you get buff from euro .
you have no right to call him noob since your the biggest noob here asking shitty ass questions and making countless topics
ps i kill bowers and i mean demolish them i guess it must be my gear and you do know you can pill of all the gay status a force bower gives you right and it has a 20 sec delay like the pills
k bring it on tough guy
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:10 pm
by Stephanus
PinayLoveNukes wrote:****
k bring it on tough guy
No need to do anything.
You just incinerate yourself and make a beutifull campfire
*brings bacon and onion*
Sry, im hungry.
Re: [90 cap] Force Bow or Original Bow?
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:34 pm
by Polemique
SolidSteel wrote:sawney wrote:lol 8 more is nothing on lvl 90 xD
I know its not much, but its something. 5 parry isn't much either.
Was just saying that according to me:
+7% dam absorb and +8 phys def > +5 parry, +4% speed and +1m ghostwalk
Consider the SPs you´ll gain...
My twing character will be the same. the advantage from light on 90 is too low to spend arround 100k SP in this...
Neither ice on 50 is better nor lightning on 90 - but ice is simply the less expensive way