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1:1 hybrid

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 10:40 pm
by KsqueaKJ
how good are 1:1 hybrids? how well would a s/s user be if it was 1:1?

Re: pure hybrid

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:38 pm
by thechampion80
wth "pure hybrid" lol

Re: pure hybrid

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:49 pm
by KsqueaKJ
KsqueaKJ wrote:how good are 1:1 hybrids? how well would a s/s user be if it was 1:1?


^^ does that help ur question :)

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:42 am
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
I guess they will be 75% Physical and 62% Magical balance

Since its in between i'll go by the full builds


[*]Less HP than FULL STR, More HP than FULL INT
[*]Higher Damage with imbue/Magigal damage than FULL STR and less than FULL INT
[*]Nukes do moderate till little damage
[*]Crits are not as high as full str

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:25 pm
by KsqueaKJ
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:I guess they will be 75% Physical and 62% Magical balance

Since its in between i'll go by the full builds


[*]Less HP than FULL STR, More HP than FULL INT
[*]Higher Damage with imbue/Magigal damage than FULL STR and less than FULL INT
[*]Nukes do moderate till little damage
[*]Crits are not as high as full str



so far itseems like 1:1 hybrids are good if u cant decide if u want a str or a int lol
what would u say about their defense?

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:57 pm
by IDontPlaySRO
If your a Bow or Blade your skills should be able to cover your defense. Anything else will most likely be eaten unless you have Snow Shield.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:09 pm
by KsqueaKJ
ok well since i was just wondering, overall how good would u say they are? like on a scale thru 1-10

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:14 pm
by IDontPlaySRO
Also depends on build. Weapon/Light/Cold would probably be decent enough. It more depends on if you can kill with that and I'll tell you right now you won't find anyone who has experience killing at cap with a 1:1 build.

Glavie/Spear is what I would suggest. Prob be something like 7 or 8 IMO. Note that there are no builds I know of ATM that I'd consider a 10 though, so it isn't as bad as it may seem.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:20 pm
by KsqueaKJ
when u said 7-8 i was surprised on how high that was. someone was telling me about there guild member with a 1:1 either sword or blade and he said he owned with it and he was capped but i think this was during 80 cap. not sure the build.

if i did ever make one id go with weapon90/fire90/60light/60ice or another combo with the ice and light, this way u get the dmg of fire and the benifits of light and ice

i might make 1 just to see how good it does im really curious about this for some reason


o and if u picked either heuskal or bicheon would u pick the spear/sword or blade/glavie?

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:29 pm
by IDontPlaySRO
I'd say Glavie/Blade because your strength balance will be higher. Plus it's a mostly physical damage based build anyway. Don't plan on using nukes.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:33 pm
by KsqueaKJ
that makes sense


thanx for the replies helped alot

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:01 am
by muyo
Always wanting to know whether 1:1 blade/sword is great at cap. Go Bro :D

PS: Im making 1, but glaive/spear.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 5:43 am
by KsqueaKJ
hell ya man, what server do u play in?

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:21 pm
by thechampion80
i think 70:70 is slightly better than 1:1
just because you can kind of use nukes effectively

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 2:53 pm
by Pan_Raider(`_´)
thechampion80 wrote:i think 70:70 is slightly better than 1:1
just because you can kind of use nukes effectively


but you will still have moderate damage and less life than a 1:1.

But a S/S could go that way

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:40 pm
by KsqueaKJ
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
thechampion80 wrote:i think 70:70 is slightly better than 1:1
just because you can kind of use nukes effectively


but you will still have moderate damage and less life than a 1:1.

But a S/S could go that way



well 70:70 is a int hybrid and 1:1 is a str hybrid


for 1:1 for a blade which would be best garm pro or armor?

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:44 pm
by XesoS
i Don't get it , why go 1:1 ? since u know its gona be shity build . And when u are lvl 90 its to late to turn back lol xD if u even make it

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:50 pm
by KsqueaKJ
thats why im not making it till my wiz is 90 so i can just plvl him :) i would never put that much time into a build i dint know how it will turn out.

and u never knwo if it will be shitty or not since no one has ever had this build capped or if they have it they never said anything about it.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:11 pm
by thechampion80
1:1 hybrid isn't str or int lol

if you want a 69:70 spear here's a good guide:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=95919

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:38 am
by KsqueaKJ
true

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:53 am
by Refurbished
im new to hybrid.. is 70/70 = 2 int 1 str? and 1/1 is ? i dont get it.. :banghead:

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:57 am
by KsqueaKJ
1:1 is where u put and even amount of str and int in, so 1st stat go to str then int then str then int and so on


70:70 is where ur magical and physical balance is 70 naked

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:02 am
by Refurbished
so what is 2 int 1 str then? Im trying to go for balance bow.. with nukes.. what would u call that then.. thanks for your help

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:06 am
by KsqueaKJ
well 2int 1 str is a 2:1 int hybrid i dont know whar the balances would be tho and np

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:57 pm
by oskone
well, if u are 1:1 , u cant use s/s why ? cause the phy balance will be higher then mag balance

if u realy like doing 1:1 , u recommend u going 40 lvls all int and rest 50lvls go 1:1 , so u will lvl up fast in the first 50lvls , cause ure mag% i high , and later on u can improve ure mag % by adding int on ure equipment

btw at lvl 90 u gonna have 9905 hp
18353 mp

so u will be able to tank a bit

its close to like going 1:2 int hybrid
but u will lvl up faster at the begining and u will have higher naked mag at lvl 90

and at lvl 90 going 1:2 int hybrid
u gona have 11594 hp
16664 mp

but u must have all bicheon skills , cause ure phy balance is higher then the build written above


at the end ( do what u think is better ) |^^

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:29 pm
by KsqueaKJ
oskone wrote:well, if u are 1:1 , u cant use s/s why ? cause the phy balance will be higher then mag balance

if u realy like doing 1:1 , u recommend u going 40 lvls all int and rest 50lvls go 1:1 , so u will lvl up fast in the first 50lvls , cause ure mag% i high , and later on u can improve ure mag % by adding int on ure equipment

btw at lvl 90 u gonna have 9905 hp
18353 mp


so u will be able to tank a bit

its close to like going 1:2 int hybrid
but u will lvl up faster at the begining and u will have higher naked mag at lvl 90

and at lvl 90 going 1:2 int hybrid
u gona have 11594 hp
16664 mp

but u must have all bicheon skills , cause ure phy balance is higher then the build written above


at the end ( do what u think is better ) |^^


is that for ur idea of the 40 lvls int then 50 lvls 1:1?
cuz if that is for 1:1 thats the wrong hp and mp.


and its a good idea but i just want to try 1:1 for fun

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:43 pm
by muyo
Bow build can run 1:1 for sure.

Blade/Shield is not tested,but said to be not going well.
Well, im making 1:1 spear XD so plz proceed with s/s or blade.

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:47 pm
by oskone
oo srry i think i added more int then hp

well at lvl90

going from lvl 1 to 40 full int
and from 40 to 90 1;1

u will have 10720 hp and 17538 mp
phy 64% and mag 77%

srry again

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:52 pm
by KsqueaKJ
muyo wrote:Bow build can run 1:1 for sure.

Blade/Shield is not tested,but said to be not going well.
Well, im making 1:1 spear XD so plz proceed with s/s or blade.



ya i will be testing that out still but like i said im waiting until my wizard is a higher lvl so i can start plvling it.


and have u ever seen someone with a 1:1 bow? are they any good?

o and for ur 1:1 glavie are u using pro or garm or armor?
oo srry i think i added more int then hp

well at lvl90

going from lvl 1 to 40 full int
and from 40 to 90 1;1

u will have 10720 hp and 17538 mp
phy 64% and mag 77%

srry again
oo srry i think i added more int then hp

well at lvl90

going from lvl 1 to 40 full int
and from 40 to 90 1;1

u will have 10720 hp and 17538 mp
phy 64% and mag 77%

srry again


that build sounds interesting have u ever tried it before?

Re: 1:1 hybrid

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:25 pm
by tomiotar
I have a 8x 1:1 bow, at 90 cap you can have near 20k Hp and near 20k mp with good gear . If you use garment you can use snow shield at 40% and if you use prot at 35% without having problem of MP. Your char will not suck as everyone said if you know how to play it and don't pretend to be a tank as people wait from archers. You can nuke but your nuke it will be close to the regular damage of your weapon skills and nukes can't crit, so its better to use regular skills instead of nukes (I was thinking on farming the nukes to use them against the warriors on heavy armor, but I dont think that I will be pacient enough to full farm them).

I recomend you use 90 weapon/fire 60 light/ice because you will have higher phys balance than mag balance so phys buff is much more important than on 70:70 builds and you will get the strongest imbue, with 60 ice you have all the snow shield that you can use and 60 light give you the phantom walk range of the bow + 15% mag buff (since that moment you will need 10 light levels to increase just 1% mag attack buff).