Blader build best for killing euros?
Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 3:22 pm
I want a build that could generaly kill any euro. any help or info??
Greatly appreciated!
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Mousetrap wrote:I find while using my rogue pure str bowers to be the hardest to kill, simply because of the knockback.
Bladers aren't really a challenge.. yes they take longer to kill, but if the rogue is smart the blader will never kill him.
heuksal users are nothing vs euro so don't waste your time with that.
s/s nukers with 53% snow shield are pretty annoying.. but still their low HP makes them pretty easy targets.
Euro > Chinese
I just now tanked two 85+ wizards, one with life turnover and a rogue with crossbow extreme on in CTF, both of us with bless.. 3v1, I killed them all as a level 85 warrior / cleric using 1H.
Warrior cleric is the best build in the game, I just hit 85 this week and can kill any level 90 chinese on the server.
for example;
hybrid spear:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892 (he hasn't done the inventory quest, but he is 90.)
blader:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=129456
bower:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=133008
seriously.. reconsider making a chinese, I mean that hybrid spear guy must've spent 2k USD on his gear.. to be beaten by someone five levels lower in a +3+4+5 heavy armor set?
If you must make a chinese, make a bower and farm to 100 cap.. unlimited KB will be the best defense against a euro, against anyone really.
@caseyd4 Hybrid bows are good, but they need to be something like Bow90 Fire90 Light70 Cold50 so they can use a good snow shield.
Mousetrap wrote:I find while using my rogue pure str bowers to be the hardest to kill, simply because of the knockback.
Bladers aren't really a challenge.. yes they take longer to kill, but if the rogue is smart the blader will never kill him.
heuksal users are nothing vs euro so don't waste your time with that.
s/s nukers with 53% snow shield are pretty annoying.. but still their low HP makes them pretty easy targets.
Euro > Chinese
I just now tanked two 85+ wizards, one with life turnover and a rogue with crossbow extreme on in CTF, both of us with bless.. 3v1, I killed them all as a level 85 warrior / cleric using 1H.
Warrior cleric is the best build in the game, I just hit 85 this week and can kill any level 90 chinese on the server.
for example;
hybrid spear:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892 (he hasn't done the inventory quest, but he is 90.)
blader:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=129456
bower:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=133008
seriously.. reconsider making a chinese, I mean that hybrid spear guy must've spent 2k USD on his gear.. to be beaten by someone five levels lower in a +3+4+5 heavy armor set?
If you must make a chinese, make a bower and farm to 100 cap.. unlimited KB will be the best defense against a euro, against anyone really.
Ragnorak wrote:
lol,
my only comment:
I wish u were in my server so I could kill u, and btw in my server no warrior has ever kill me since I completed my set (prot) only exception has been a 2hand sun warrior and yet I can still win against it.
no such thing as "best" build period.
PeroMed wrote:MouseTrap one big question... Do they have bless on when you pvp?
Or does your pvping look like I think it does:
Right after person dies and has no buffs you pvp them?
Correct me if i am wrong.
Shadowfox542 wrote:Mousetrap wrote:I find while using my rogue pure str bowers to be the hardest to kill, simply because of the knockback.
Bladers aren't really a challenge.. yes they take longer to kill, but if the rogue is smart the blader will never kill him.
heuksal users are nothing vs euro so don't waste your time with that.
s/s nukers with 53% snow shield are pretty annoying.. but still their low HP makes them pretty easy targets.
Euro > Chinese
I just now tanked two 85+ wizards, one with life turnover and a rogue with crossbow extreme on in CTF, both of us with bless.. 3v1, I killed them all as a level 85 warrior / cleric using 1H.
Warrior cleric is the best build in the game, I just hit 85 this week and can kill any level 90 chinese on the server.
for example;
hybrid spear:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892 (he hasn't done the inventory quest, but he is 90.)
blader:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=129456
bower:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=133008
seriously.. reconsider making a chinese, I mean that hybrid spear guy must've spent 2k USD on his gear.. to be beaten by someone five levels lower in a +3+4+5 heavy armor set?
If you must make a chinese, make a bower and farm to 100 cap.. unlimited KB will be the best defense against a euro, against anyone really.
I am a level 87 warrior/cleric. I can safely say I am one of the best War/Cle in 1v1 (on my server) I haven't seen another warrior use trace healing. My skills are at 82, FF 1H/2H/Cleric, my set is +3/4, all with str.
This build isn't a you can kill anyone or anything build. Warriors get destroyed by bicheon Nukers that have snow on. I am in a decent set, and am good at having bless/skins/healing orbit on at all times, but I cannot tank a S/S nuker without either bless/healing orbit, or bless/skins.
Basically, heres how I see it.
The Euro Killing build from what I have seen is S/S nukers. Light90 Blade90 Cold90 will stop anyone that isn't sub celric, if you just spam KD and chains...
With snow, if your in prot, you should be able to tank a warrior long enough to nuke him to death, but just KD spam if the warrior uses bless and skins. Rouges will eat you if your not fast, if they hit before you snow its probably over for you.
Wizards will kill you in 1 hit if your snowed, and you will kill them in 1 hit.
IMO, archer is the best, KB spam a warrior until they are unskinned/blessed, then kill. KB spam rouges or wizards, this will probably kill them if they have DD/LC on, just use KB->strong bow for stun. At 100cap, you will be able to KB someone forever with the new combo, so that will definintely kill wizards/rouges.
The only problem with bow is that if they hit you first, or for whatever reason you cannot attack, your totally dead. Example: When I use 1H with my shield (Br18+8 passive), I just KB spam archers until they get dull, and their arrow combo does not KB me about half the time, block+the 30% chance anyhow works magic. Then use heaven flash to get bind on the archer, assuming you cast without getting KB'd, switch to 2H, turn rising, triple swing. Dull+Bind increase damage, and being KD'd increases damage.
Basically, if your fast and have a good connection, archers, otherwise, blader.
@caseyd4 Hybrid bows are good, but they need to be something like Bow90 Fire90 Light70 Cold50 so they can use a good snow shield.
@Mousetrap If you really can kill any lv90 on the server, thats quite impressive, but I know I can't even with +7 1h/2h/shield.
whiteraven wrote:blader will do just fine,, but make sure you know how to use castle shieldthat makes the difference in pvp,, dont rely on 1, spam castle shield after eachother when best runs out, take other one, when that runs out, your first caslte mostlikely still refilling, so spam the 2nd book of castle shield
Puma60 wrote:whiteraven wrote:blader will do just fine,, but make sure you know how to use castle shieldthat makes the difference in pvp,, dont rely on 1, spam castle shield after eachother when best runs out, take other one, when that runs out, your first caslte mostlikely still refilling, so spam the 2nd book of castle shield
Afaik, both books do cool down time if only one book is used.
Mousetrap wrote:I find while using my rogue pure str bowers to be the hardest to kill, simply because of the knockback.
Bladers aren't really a challenge.. yes they take longer to kill, but if the rogue is smart the blader will never kill him.
heuksal users are nothing vs euro so don't waste your time with that.
s/s nukers with 53% snow shield are pretty annoying.. but still their low HP makes them pretty easy targets.
Euro > Chinese
I just now tanked two 85+ wizards, one with life turnover and a rogue with crossbow extreme on in CTF, both of us with bless.. 3v1, I killed them all as a level 85 warrior / cleric using 1H.
Warrior cleric is the best build in the game, I just hit 85 this week and can kill any level 90 chinese on the server.
for example;
hybrid spear:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892 (he hasn't done the inventory quest, but he is 90.)
blader:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=129456
bower:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=133008
seriously.. reconsider making a chinese, I mean that hybrid spear guy must've spent 2k USD on his gear.. to be beaten by someone five levels lower in a +3+4+5 heavy armor set?
If you must make a chinese, make a bower and farm to 100 cap.. unlimited KB will be the best defense against a euro, against anyone really.
KsqueaKJ wrote:1st bold. wrong, id say its even ive killed rouges and they have killed me neither is on top.
2nd bold. u must believe in "ignorance is bliss" you my friend are a noob. ya euros own when they have a party whenn pvp , and go agaist a chinese by himself while u have a cleric buffing u and healing you along with the warrior buffs on from other ppl...ya thats fair.... imo if its 1 on 1 wihtout other ppl helping u its a pretty damn fair battle.
and 3rd bold. ur proud of 3v1 when u had bless spell on? pathetic. thats nothing to be proud of, put bless spell on me ad im sure i can do more then a 3v1. damnn ur a noob
ot: dont go with glavie or spear.
and say blader(a force blader would probably be awesome against euro, never seen one battle a euro but seems like it would be good) or bow, pure int s/s or hyrbid s/s
_Scarlett_ wrote:KsqueaKJ wrote:1st bold. wrong, id say its even ive killed rouges and they have killed me neither is on top.
2nd bold. u must believe in "ignorance is bliss" you my friend are a noob. ya euros own when they have a party whenn pvp , and go agaist a chinese by himself while u have a cleric buffing u and healing you along with the warrior buffs on from other ppl...ya thats fair.... imo if its 1 on 1 wihtout other ppl helping u its a pretty damn fair battle.
and 3rd bold. ur proud of 3v1 when u had bless spell on? pathetic. thats nothing to be proud of, put bless spell on me ad im sure i can do more then a 3v1. damnn ur a noob
ot: dont go with glavie or spear.
and say blader(a force blader would probably be awesome against euro, never seen one battle a euro but seems like it would be good) or bow, pure int s/s or hyrbid s/s
Iunno what it's like on your server, but when you 1vs1 you agree to get rid of outside buffs, and go at it yourself. Any euro with a cleric sub and fair well alone, especially a warrior.
Blader w/ force fairs decently against euro, however, against any euro with holy spell it's pretty useless. Only debuff you're getting through Holy spell is the PR and AR decreases, and Bleed. Against chinese it's really good, unless they get a cleric to come buff them '~,~. So far pure int s/s has an easier time, especially once they put snow up.
Mousetrap wrote:KsqueaKJ wrote:
1st bold. wrong, id say its even ive killed rouges and they have killed me neither is on top.
2nd bold. u must believe in "ignorance is bliss" you my friend are a noob. ya euros own when they have a party whenn pvp , and go agaist a chinese by himself while u have a cleric buffing u and healing you along with the warrior buffs on from other ppl...ya thats fair.... imo if its 1 on 1 wihtout other ppl helping u its a pretty damn fair battle.
and 3rd bold. ur proud of 3v1 when u had bless spell on? pathetic. thats nothing to be proud of, put bless spell on me ad im sure i can do more then a 3v1. damnn ur a noob
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1st; in my personal experience bladers aren't much threat. While jobbing I just leave them KD spamming me while I help my party until their snow is gone, then I rape their asses.
2nd; A warrior cleric is better at 1v1 pvp than any chinese character. In a party they excel even further.
3rd; Have you ever tried to tank two wizards and a rogue with bless on? Bless does NOT make you invincible. Even if you could tank it, they have bless on also with sub cleric.. do you think you'd be able to take out all three with ease? I doubt it.
Noob =)
I'm in the works of making a pre-90 video with my character as level 85-87 dominating level 88-90 chars (euros included)
Ragnorak wrote:Shadowfox542 wrote:Mousetrap wrote:I find while using my rogue pure str bowers to be the hardest to kill, simply because of the knockback.
Bladers aren't really a challenge.. yes they take longer to kill, but if the rogue is smart the blader will never kill him.
heuksal users are nothing vs euro so don't waste your time with that.
s/s nukers with 53% snow shield are pretty annoying.. but still their low HP makes them pretty easy targets.
Euro > Chinese
I just now tanked two 85+ wizards, one with life turnover and a rogue with crossbow extreme on in CTF, both of us with bless.. 3v1, I killed them all as a level 85 warrior / cleric using 1H.
Warrior cleric is the best build in the game, I just hit 85 this week and can kill any level 90 chinese on the server.
for example;
hybrid spear:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=227892 (he hasn't done the inventory quest, but he is 90.)
blader:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=129456
bower:
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=133008
seriously.. reconsider making a chinese, I mean that hybrid spear guy must've spent 2k USD on his gear.. to be beaten by someone five levels lower in a +3+4+5 heavy armor set?
If you must make a chinese, make a bower and farm to 100 cap.. unlimited KB will be the best defense against a euro, against anyone really.
I am a level 87 warrior/cleric. I can safely say I am one of the best War/Cle in 1v1 (on my server) I haven't seen another warrior use trace healing. My skills are at 82, FF 1H/2H/Cleric, my set is +3/4, all with str.
This build isn't a you can kill anyone or anything build. Warriors get destroyed by bicheon Nukers that have snow on. I am in a decent set, and am good at having bless/skins/healing orbit on at all times, but I cannot tank a S/S nuker without either bless/healing orbit, or bless/skins.
Basically, heres how I see it.
The Euro Killing build from what I have seen is S/S nukers. Light90 Blade90 Cold90 will stop anyone that isn't sub celric, if you just spam KD and chains...
With snow, if your in prot, you should be able to tank a warrior long enough to nuke him to death, but just KD spam if the warrior uses bless and skins. Rouges will eat you if your not fast, if they hit before you snow its probably over for you.
Wizards will kill you in 1 hit if your snowed, and you will kill them in 1 hit.
IMO, archer is the best, KB spam a warrior until they are unskinned/blessed, then kill. KB spam rouges or wizards, this will probably kill them if they have DD/LC on, just use KB->strong bow for stun. At 100cap, you will be able to KB someone forever with the new combo, so that will definintely kill wizards/rouges.
The only problem with bow is that if they hit you first, or for whatever reason you cannot attack, your totally dead. Example: When I use 1H with my shield (Br18+8 passive), I just KB spam archers until they get dull, and their arrow combo does not KB me about half the time, block+the 30% chance anyhow works magic. Then use heaven flash to get bind on the archer, assuming you cast without getting KB'd, switch to 2H, turn rising, triple swing. Dull+Bind increase damage, and being KD'd increases damage.
Basically, if your fast and have a good connection, archers, otherwise, blader.
@caseyd4 Hybrid bows are good, but they need to be something like Bow90 Fire90 Light70 Cold50 so they can use a good snow shield.
@Mousetrap If you really can kill any lv90 on the server, thats quite impressive, but I know I can't even with +7 1h/2h/shield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vbSUrwvTjc
video without the 89+5 legs....trust me u would need sun 2hand to even come close to killing me...i don't really need to use walls...but firewall is an advantage...only sprint assault can destroy it and is not 100% like I said no warrior without a 2hand sun has kill me yet since I +5 my set (still missing chest/necklace) if 2hand hand sun hits 6-9k with DD then u must do 3-6k on wit a +5 (not saying u have a +5) lol.
ur DD/maddening will never get a direct hit on me>>>always hits shield or block it