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About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:35 pm
by ivar
Hey guys,

After like a week of posting topics with questiosn about all different builds etc and alot of bla bla i finally came out that i want to create a nuker. Now my question is. how!?

I like to do v good damage. I like to be good 1o1 pvp, but i also want to be good in job wars and fortress war etc.

I was thinking about some things, first off all i was thinking about just s/s 90 fire/cold/light. But then i started to get a bad feeling. Like i think im going to regret it. I like unique builds. and this one is defenetly not unique.

So i started thinking.. I came up with maybe a nuker with force??. but then i came with the thing. For some reason i just want the fire nuke because i love it so much. So was thinking about something like 90 fire 90 force.... but then??? light or cold??? if i miss cold i will have verry weak defence. But if i miss light i will miss the speed in my build.. i dont think i can live without that.
so then came up with 90 force, light and cold.

Then i started wondering..
if i use vital spot of force, with a light imbue and light nuke, how big will the difference be with the vital spot and fire imbue and fire nuke???

I just cant come with up with something wich suits me.. and then another thing will i use spear?? or will i use s/s ??? will i go hybrid int? (if yes how much hybrid??) or will i be pure int?? i just cant come up with the best thing for me. i do know i like unique builds and i do know I want an int based char.


Can you guys please help me out??

Thanks, Greetz ivar.

P.S. DONT COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE GO EURO CHAR OR GO STR THIS OR THAT, ONLY ABOUT NUKERS PLEASE!

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:31 pm
by radko55
every build is good make ur own hybrid or pure it comes down to play style and gear. I am full force nuker 80cold 80 light 82 fire my gear is almost up to date.I enjoy it verry much it is diffinetly one of the rarest builds on sro and rarest one must be force bow because of how hard it is to get it right.

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:36 am
by penfold1992
either 90 bich 90 light 90 cold
or
90 fire/light/ice

trust me, if u wna b gd u need cold nd bich.(1 on 1)

go s/s

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:38 am
by Mishiru
for hunt unikes like shaitan go fire/ligth/cold
but in pvp force ligth cold are good =D like s/s bich ligth cold . the bad think is that you have to farm 1 kk or more sp to get all the skillz maxed T_T

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:58 am
by the_wicked
only force build that works is 90 force light cold 30 fire.

get 90 bich cold light tho, it works a lot better.

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:48 am
by Shadowfox542
the_wicked wrote:only force build that works is 90 force light cold 30 fire.

get 90 bich cold light tho, it works a lot better.


Yea, I hate to say it, but you need high level light and cold. Nukers are pretty similar, the best one I have seen is Cold90 Bich90 Light90, but its by far the most common. If your a nuker, than to tank anyone you need a good snow shield, but the ice nukes won't kill much. Light90>Fire90 by far for a nuker, fire has stronger imbue/nukes, but light has the 18% damage increase (or something like that) and it makes light a lot stronger. Bottom line, you should do...

90cold 90bicheon 90light for balanced
90light 90fire 90cold Lower defense, higher attack.
90light 90cold 90force, having 1 strong nuke would bother me, and is a useless build until 70.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:58 am
by Shadow
Want to be quite unique and have fire nukes? 90 bicheon, fire, cold, 30 light. I'll probably take that build when I finally get my new pc components delivered.. -.-'
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:27 am
by Phix
radko55 wrote:every build is good make ur own hybrid or pure it comes down to play style and gear. I am full force nuker 80cold 80 light 82 fire my gear is almost up to date.I enjoy it verry much it is diffinetly one of the rarest builds on sro and rarest one must be force bow because of how hard it is to get it right.

wait till the 100 caps comes and you will own, together with the pure str bowers.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:24 am
by ivar
Okay, so ill forget about the force part. Dont think it will work, since its only good for 1o1, since i would have only one good nuke.

I wont go for 90 fire 90 cold 90 light i just know that i am going to miss the weapon skills of either spear or s/s.

So i know i want a int build with weapon skills now. So now will i make it spear or s/s??

I like spear but i have no idea on how to make a spear build wich is like a bit unique and will also work, because i just dont want a standard build again.
For s/s:
Shadow wrote:Want to be quite unique and have fire nukes? 90 bicheon, fire, cold, 30 light. I'll probably take that build when I finally get my new pc components delivered.. -.-'
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I really find this idea pretty attractive, but i want to hear some oppinions on this one guys???

Greetz

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:50 am
by Hustlar
good nuker is 90 bicheon 90 fire and 60ice/light, trust me if u can play it it works awesome

watch this pvp movie:
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Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:54 am
by Phix
people that are posting vids about level 90 botters owning every1 with a "unique" build,

their builds arent Unique there are more people with exactly the same build.. want a unique build dont ask a forum about it..


just goahead make one, come back when you screwed up and you make a new char etc. keep doing that till you get what u want.

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:42 am
by BabyBoy
Phix wrote:people that are posting vids about level 90 botters owning every1 with a "unique" build,

their builds arent Unique there are more people with exactly the same build.. want a unique build dont ask a forum about it..


just goahead make one, come back when you screwed up and you make a new char etc. keep doing that till you get what u want.


Criticize much, where is your proof that all these guys are botters. Sure there are a lot of botters in SRO, but you can't class everyone under a stereotype. Paranoid or jealousy?

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:17 am
by whiteraven
Phix wrote:people that are posting vids about level 90 botters owning every1 with a "unique" build,

their builds arent Unique there are more people with exactly the same build.. want a unique build dont ask a forum about it..


just goahead make one, come back when you screwed up and you make a new char etc. keep doing that till you get what u want.



lol i have a str wiz,, so dont make one if you want to be unique ,,

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:01 am
by AznFury
90 light/cold/fire will be the ultimate dmg dealer in job wars or fortress wars. just stay outta the way and nuke like crazy. but you want weapon skills...


pure int
90 bich/cold/light 30 fire

-or-

hybrid (5:1?) int
90 heuk/fire 60 cold/light

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:29 am
by Hustlar
Phix wrote:people that are posting vids about level 90 botters owning every1 with a "unique" build,

their builds arent Unique there are more people with exactly the same build.. want a unique build dont ask a forum about it..


just goahead make one, come back when you screwed up and you make a new char etc. keep doing that till you get what u want.

rself.
got prove they bot? no

and its not about being unique, its about being good, if you wanna be unique go retarded:retarded almost hybrid and plz friggin kill you

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:50 pm
by ivar
guys stay at the topic please dont start flaming each other about a vid... this is not helping me at all.

aznfury91 wrote:90 light/cold/fire will be the ultimate dmg dealer in job wars or fortress wars. just stay outta the way and nuke like crazy. but you want weapon skills...


pure int
90 bich/cold/light 30 fire

-or-

hybrid (5:1?) int
90 heuk/fire 60 cold/light


the heuksal build is to common if you ask me. I just dont feel actracted to it i got a feeling i will regret and the same for the bicheon build, tho it sounds better then the heuksal just because i love the bicheon skills.

but i wanted some oppinions on this builds:

Hustlar wrote:good nuker is 90 bicheon 90 fire and 60ice/light, trust me if u can play it it works awesome

watch this pvp movie:
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Shadow wrote:Want to be quite unique and have fire nukes? 90 bicheon, fire, cold, 30 light. I'll probably take that build when I finally get my new pc components delivered.. -.-'
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Cmon guys need oppinions on those two

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:58 pm
by Hustlar
first is a very decent build for pvping and also good enough imo for jobbing and FW


2nd is only good for jobbing and a bit for FW to, cause for pvp you rly need your maxxed bicheon skills to survive through your kd skills.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:20 pm
by ivar
Hustlar wrote:first is a very decent build for pvping and also good enough imo for jobbing and FW


2nd is only good for jobbing and a bit for FW to, cause for pvp you rly need your maxxed bicheon skills to survive through your kd skills.



They both have maxed bicheon 90!??!

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:43 pm
by Hustlar
ivar wrote:
Hustlar wrote:first is a very decent build for pvping and also good enough imo for jobbing and FW


2nd is only good for jobbing and a bit for FW to, cause for pvp you rly need your maxxed bicheon skills to survive through your kd skills.



They both have maxed bicheon 90!??!

if you would actually read what is posted with these movies, YES THEY DO.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:50 pm
by Rosemead
ivar wrote:Hey guys,

After like a week of posting topics with questiosn about all different builds etc and alot of bla bla i finally came out that i want to create a nuker. Now my question is. how!?


You closet nuker you! :P

ivar wrote:I like to do v good damage. I like to be good 1o1 pvp, but i also want to be good in job wars and fortress war etc.


All I have to say is, 90 Light, 90 cold, 90 Bicheon, 30 Fire.

ivar wrote:So i started thinking.. I came up with maybe a nuker with force??. but then i came with the thing. For some reason i just want the fire nuke because i love it so much. So was thinking about something like 90 fire 90 force.... but then??? light or cold??? if i miss cold i will have verry weak defence. But if i miss light i will miss the speed in my build.. i dont think i can live without that.
so then came up with 90 force, light and cold.

Then i started wondering..
if i use vital spot of force, with a light imbue and light nuke, how big will the difference be with the vital spot and fire imbue and fire nuke???

I just cant come with up with something wich suits me.. and then another thing will i use spear?? or will i use s/s ??? will i go hybrid int? (if yes how much hybrid??) or will i be pure int?? i just cant come up with the best thing for me. i do know i like unique builds and i do know I want an int based char.


One word that ruins the whole force nuker build: Holy Word.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:48 pm
by I Pk I
Go 90bich,light,cold 30 fire that cold gives so much def that without it you would probably have to grind on monsters 4 lvls below your lvl , unless you had really pimped stuff.

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:54 pm
by conkker
90fire/90bicheon/60light/60cold

enought said

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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:03 pm
by penfold1992
[quote="Rosemead"One word that ruins the whole force nuker build: Holy Word.[/quote]

fail. holy word is 2 words! ha!

how does it ruin the build?
im immune to zombie ice fire poison and shock but people still go cold imbue.

not every1 can get holy word and it needs to be maxed. also its not that effective! you can still cast :)

most wizzies i see go bard.
wizzard + division - (nuke) = lol

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:29 am
by Ragnorak
If you want to do good in pvp, weapon skills is a must...either hybrid heuksal or s/s bichion...pure nuking with no way to defend urself with weapon skills won't get u far...int with 90 light 90 ice 90 force owns as well vs other Chinese, cleric sub is a problem though. note that bleed still works even with holy spell, but division/impotent won't

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:00 am
by ivar
right okay, you guys helped me alot so far. I decided i will go for s/s with 90 bich/fire, 60 light/cold

but now my question is, hybrid? or pure int? give me some pros and cons infected to pvp, jw and fw.

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:16 am
by Shadow
ivar wrote:right okay, you guys helped me alot so far. I decided i will go for s/s with 90 bich/fire, 60 light/cold

but now my question is, hybrid? or pure int? give me some pros and cons infected to pvp, jw and fw.

I guess you could go pure int but I'd go hybrid with that build. The difference between 60 and 90 ice is rather big, so extra str would help you survive better. I recon something between 5:1 and 8:1 might be good (naked mag balance 85%+). You'd still rely on snow shield a lot, and use mostly bicheon skills in pvp, perhaps using a fire nuke when you see fit. Fire helps against other ints due to the mag defence increase, and the castle shield series are most useful against str players.

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:08 am
by ivar
hmm, maybe the 90 bich, fire, cold and 30 light might be better with a pure int? what do you think?

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:20 pm
by Shadow
ivar wrote:hmm, maybe the 90 bich, fire, cold and 30 light might be better with a pure int? what do you think?

Yes I believe it'd be better with a pure int. Maxed ice goes well with pure int (max snow shield). This "30 light"- has stronger defence and weaker offence compared to the 60 light/ice build. (With the 30 light build)you lose some speed, phantom, and 8% mag damage (buff), and you gain 13% more snow shield, and 180 phy defence (buffs). With 90 ice you can also have the maxed ice nukes as your secondary nukes, and the ice imbue as your secondary imbue.
Note that instead of 30 light you can take 32 light; get the first phantom and 1% more mag damage. Then when you cap, either delevel light 2 levels or not max one of the other trees if you want to have phantom. I guess you could level light even higher and then delevel it when you need to free some masteries for your main trees.

The difference between these builds isn't big. With 60/60 you might want to wear armor or protector, or hybridize, or both. With that 90 ice one you could easily be pure int & wear garments. I recon the 60/60 build requires much less sp than the other build.

That's just my opinion though.

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:19 pm
by ivar
right so, if i want to own in fw and job wars i should be 90 fire/cod/light and if i want to own in 1o1 pvp i should have 90bich/fire 60cold/light am i right?


than waht about spear? i need to know more about spear

Re: About nuker build! READ+REPLY if u know what u talking about

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:38 am
by Shadow
No weapon mastery --> focus on pve, mass pvp where you can stand back and nuke like hell. Can use both s/s and spear for nuking.
Weapon mastery --> Able to effectively pvp 1vs1, also good in pve & mass pvp.

Spear.. More damage, less defence; kill faster, die faster. Has stun and knockback attacks, and the weapon skills are rather powerful. No shield but has extra hp from the heuksal passive. You can replace the bicheon tree with heuksal in any of the builds mentioned earlier. Again, if you don't have maxed cold, you might need to hybridize and/or wear armor, at least protector.

Also.. one possible build could be 90 weapon-light-fire, 30 ice... uber damage and speed, low snow shield, bad physical defence. You could hybridize/wear armor to help with that though since fire gives mag defence.