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Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:19 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
Hello,

I'm curious as to which build is better for PvP? I have always liked
the look of bladers but the slow leveling ould be horrible even though
I'm gonna wait untill my int s/s is level 72 to powerlevel some of the
way there.

There are a few blader builds I have in mind to, here they are.

#1:Bich/Fire/Force 90, Ice 30.

#2:Bich/Fire 90, Ice 72, Light 48.

Can someone tell me which build would win in PvP vsing each other? And
also which build is best vs. other builds? I'm guessing bladers are the
best vs wizards but not sure about anything else :S

If there's a really good build for taking down euro's someone inform
me right away haha, that's what I'll be PvPing mostly.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:54 am
by Hustlar
for the last time, depends on your skill, how you play, your gear and your enemies gear.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:59 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
How well could a blader go with +5 full blued everything?
Possibly +7 blade.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:23 am
by LockStar.
If they are at the same level and level of gear, lets say 90.. the blader deffinately cant kill the Warrior. The warrior will have to wait for a crit to kill the blader. I ran through 3 layers of Bless and Skins to kill a lvl 90 blader, I was only at 87 with 85 masteries though :( I would switch to cleric everytime I ran out of buffs and tank throughout cooldowns.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:39 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
Hmm.. Not looking to good on bladers behalf. If I'm full farming
my character I want it to be good at PvP haha so :S

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 1:46 pm
by the_wicked
i fought a 90 FF blader. Only killed him with dull + kd triple swing crits. We split 1 - 1 and i stopped wasting pots.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:26 pm
by KoRniziWa
chances are high the fight ends with the last pot

but id say the chances for a warrior cleric to win are higher, since the healskills heal faster than the blader hits. skins and bless and theres not even need to heal

high crit 2h + daredevil finish the blader earlier or later

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:18 pm
by Raipe
The skills, id try 75 bich, 75 ice, 75 light and 85 fire, then id look what works the best, even tho id need to get HELLA lot curst hearts, i isnt THAT bad. But, you should try some builds, find whats the best one for you :)

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:27 pm
by blackfalcon
Raipe wrote:The skills, id try 75 bich, 75 ice, 75 light and 85 fire, then id look what works the best, even tho id need to get HELLA lot curst hearts, i isnt THAT bad. But, you should try some builds, find whats the best one for you :)



eh wtf kinda build is that?

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:49 pm
by DeathBeforeDishonor
What if I'm a force blader, debuff, combo, flying stone smash to get
status on the warrior, kd, stab stab stab stab, kd ectt.. to keep him
from healing? 'cause I'm level 54 now on my int and I can just kd
twice in a row then do a shout, then kd to time in a row again if i'm
trying to annoy plvlers ksing me. I'm guessing I can get status onto
my enemy then do lots of kd's to prevent the warrior from healing and
hope for some crits in there.

Would that work?

Hopefully he doesn't kd/stun me lol.

I really like the look of bladers, they look like alot of fun but hmm the
way everyone discribes them sounds boring.

Also with a force blader I wouldn't have high ice and would have no
grasswalk :(

With the ice build I would have high phys def, but no extra damage and
really low grasswalk. I guess there's the build MrFudge suggested..

Fire 90, Ice 72, Light 48. Still no extra damage really but a fair
amount of extra phys def..

Anyway can bowers take down warrior/clerics? High crits so I guess it's
a possibility if I could keep the kd and stun going till I get a few
nice crits into him/her.

Also with a blader with ice I could always freeze the warrior, I'm
assuming not many warrior have ice imune, but then again cleric would
have some insanely powerful skill to counter that I guess.

It seems euro are extremely over powered, the one thing that they don't
eat chinese in is pot delay -.-

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:20 am
by thechampion80
try debuffing someone with holy spell :roll:

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:23 am
by foudre
blackfalcon wrote:
Raipe wrote:The skills, id try 75 bich, 75 ice, 75 light and 85 fire, then id look what works the best, even tho id need to get HELLA lot curst hearts, i isnt THAT bad. But, you should try some builds, find whats the best one for you :)



eh wtf kinda build is that?

its 10 over 300 is what it is

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:23 am
by Shadowfox542
the_wicked wrote:i fought a 90 FF blader. Only killed him with dull + kd triple swing crits. We split 1 - 1 and i stopped wasting pots.


That is what I would assume. I am a lv85 warrior and it just goes on forever...Using 1H and KB moves, no one will win.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:57 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
Hmm okay. What about warrior vs every other build and blader vs every
other build? Which one would be best?

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:03 am
by foudre
sprint assult would really put a one up on the warriors side, sure phatom is nice but doesn't got the instant hit plus kb and stun, vs a cross bow or wizzard i would say the warrior is better suited, a beserking wizzard with good gear can still one hit either or come pretty close depending what their target is wearing, so if you can stop them from hitting you and take them out just that fast it would seam warrior has the advantage

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:16 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
Hm.. I see. Is there anytime a euro doesn't beat a chinese?
I hate you JM.

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:03 am
by Phix
Raipe wrote:The skills, id try 75 bich, 75 ice, 75 light and 85 fire, then id look what works the best, even tho id need to get HELLA lot curst hearts, i isnt THAT bad. But, you should try some builds, find whats the best one for you :)



dude you phial

75+75+75=225+85=310?

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:06 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
I was thinking of going fire/ice blader, great phys deff. Both imbues
to freeze people, is there any reason why freeze is useless vs. a warrior?

Is there any situation or circumstance where a euro actually doesn't not
only beat chinese but absolutely flog them?

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:10 am
by Phix
DeathBeforeDishonor wrote:so can someone tell me if there is any case where a euro character actually isn't better than a chinese one?

hmmz..... i dunnoh, cleric totally buffs the str euros to much, they are invincible invincible!

Re: Can a blader take down a warrior/cleric?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:12 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
And if a chinese str is buffed how well is the outcome?