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Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:35 pm
by Coooolo70
This is what I'm doing right now.

I've read up good and bad points on this, but would like to see what new things people could add about having a rogue with warlock as a second.

Currently I'm level 11, and have all rogue/warlock stuff up as much as I can, and am going full str.

Please give me any tips you can ^^

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:54 pm
by Rumai
imo lock is only good for pvp. i should go cleric

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:51 pm
by Shadowfox542
IMO, bad build.
Rouge:
Massive damage
Low defense

Warlock:
Deal more damage, no extra defense

Bard:
Faster, and noise helps for grinding with DD/CE on

Cleric:
A ton of defense for 45 seconds, and if you get the passives and the phy/mag buffs you have a lot more defense if your running away with a cleric rod in hand.

Also, the only problem a rouge should have is defense, and if the rouge can't deal enough damage to kill someone, then they are probably like 6 levels above you, and will resist most debuffs. At cap, a lot of debuffs will resist on enemies with holy spell, cept' for the lv10 ones, which division/decay are not.

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:33 pm
by Stress
Shadowfox542 wrote:IMO, bad build.
Rouge:
Massive damage
Low defense

Warlock:
Deal more damage, no extra defense

Bard:
Faster, and noise helps for grinding with DD/CE on

Cleric:
A ton of defense for 45 seconds, and if you get the passives and the phy/mag buffs you have a lot more defense if your running away with a cleric rod in hand.

Also, the only problem a rouge should have is defense, and if the rouge can't deal enough damage to kill someone, then they are probably like 6 levels above you, and will resist most debuffs. At cap, a lot of debuffs will resist on enemies with holy spell, cept' for the lv10 ones, which division/decay are not.


Sleep / Stun -> Debuff -> sleep/stun again -> DD -> Prick.

'nuff said.

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:44 pm
by Shadowfox542
Stress wrote:
Shadowfox542 wrote:IMO, bad build.
Rouge:
Massive damage
Low defense

Warlock:
Deal more damage, no extra defense

Bard:
Faster, and noise helps for grinding with DD/CE on

Cleric:
A ton of defense for 45 seconds, and if you get the passives and the phy/mag buffs you have a lot more defense if your running away with a cleric rod in hand.

Also, the only problem a rouge should have is defense, and if the rouge can't deal enough damage to kill someone, then they are probably like 6 levels above you, and will resist most debuffs. At cap, a lot of debuffs will resist on enemies with holy spell, cept' for the lv10 ones, which division/decay are not.


Sleep / Stun -> Debuff -> sleep/stun again -> DD -> Prick.

'nuff said.


Bless->DD->Stealth->Prick.

I suppose they are both good builds, but I think cleric is a lot better for group pvp/jobbing, as bless applies to party, without being any worse in 1v1. Ress has saved my trader and fellow hunters a whole lot.

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:10 pm
by Ash
IMO i prefer speed over defense . i won't be buying horses any more . i won't spend 100k every time i go grind for speed scroll .

+ there are already plenty of clerics around like 80% of wizards has cleric as a sup & 80% of the warriors are the same .

though it's very rare to find a full bard .

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anyway warlock sub is a pure pvp build
+ it needs a lot of farming

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@ topic starter if you are not getting
pfarmed go pure rogue (only 1 weapon) with gap 0 till cap

Re: Going for Rogue with Warlock sub class

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:28 pm
by Shadowfox542
Ash wrote:IMO i prefer speed over defense . i won't be buying horses any more . i won't spend 100k every time i go grind for speed scroll .

+ there are already plenty of clerics around like 80% of wizards has cleric as a sup & 80% of the warriors are the same .

though it's very rare to find a full bard .

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anyway warlock sub is a pure pvp build
+ it needs a lot of farming

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@ topic starter if you are not getting
pfarmed go pure rogue (only 1 weapon) with gap 0 till cap


Yea, Bard is certainly helpful sub, but with xbow the range is enough that moving march isn't THAT useful, though noise helps when using CE.
Warlock/xbow/dags
Enjoy your farming, good in pvp/pve

Cleric/xbow/dags
Slightly less farming, slightly better in PvE, about the same in pvp (Imo)

Bard/Xbow/dags
Not a lot of farming, bard is useless in pvp, and excellent in pve.

bard/xbow
Little farming, levels quickly, not great in pvp